Firstly thank you for the thread, as someone who sometimes struggles with such things and has arrived at my search rather late in life I find the questions and answers helpful.
But it raises a point that I've not been able to resolve nor have I found anyone who can.
If indeed Jesus died for our sins so that if we believe in him we will go to heaven when do we go to heaven? When we die?
I find this at odds with things like the various creeds that proclaim that Jesus will return to judge the living/quick and the dead/raise the dead (depending on the creed). If we're in heaven (or hell) who is going to be /judgedraised?
Any references, clarifications, discussions etc. would be greatly appreciated.
It's figurative. The Kingdom of Heaven is the issue. The 8 Beatitudes explain this to some degree.
During the Great Tribulation, you will come back with Jesus as his army to fight against the un-Godly...And of course, you and Jesus will prevail, mightily...
When you get to heaven, you will be judged by Jesus on "what you did for Him as a Christian"...The Bible says that what you did on earth that didn't produce good for God, will be burned...What you did that was good, you will be rewarded for...
At the White Throne Judgement, everyone WILL confess that Jesus is Lord, before they are cast into outer darkness to the lake of fire....The two are not the same...
Many will disagree with what I just said...My only advice to you or anyone is, Don't let someone "educate" you out of the Bible...
From what I can read in the Bible, Heaven exists (the Bible states that it does), but when we die we do not go directly to Heaven. We must all be judged first (Judgement Day), hence the Revelations scripture of raising the sleeping (dead) to be judged before the living and that Heaven is rebuilt.
Some believe that when we die, everyone sleeps until the final judgment, and then at that point those who are in Christ go to heaven.
Many believe that those who are in Christ go immediately to heaven upon their death--that's what I believe. There are a couple of proof texts that come to mind. One is Paul's statement regarding whether or not it is better to be alive and here on earth or present with the Lord (if someone has a Bible and knows the passage, you could clean up my paraphrase 'cause it's really awful). The other proof text that really convinces me is Jesus' declaration to the thief on the cross when he says, "Today you shall be with me in paradise."
If you're a Christian (accepted Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior) at the moment of your death you are in Heaven with Him.
You just don't have your physical flesh & bone (resurrected) body yet