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Windows 2000 Problems

Posted on 12/24/2001 8:16:31 AM PST by 1L

I just installed 2000 over the weekend as an upgrade over NT. No real problems (minor modem trouble, fixed, and irritating settings and sounds, fixed) except that the computer will not restart. Yes, I can reset it with the button on the box, but the OS won't auto restart the system. It shuts down, then I get an aqua/green screen that stays there indefinitely. What can I do?


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Any help would be appreciated.
1 posted on 12/24/2001 8:16:31 AM PST by 1L
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To: 1L
I could be wrong (sure wouldn't be the first time), but I *think* it's better to do a clean install of operating systems. IOW, save everything you want to save and then reformat the hard drive. But best to check with an actual expert.
2 posted on 12/24/2001 8:17:42 AM PST by NYC GOP Chick
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To: 1L
CAn you install that over NT? Did it say it would work? Does seem like alot to ask.
3 posted on 12/24/2001 8:20:30 AM PST by Sungirl
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To: bush2000
Ping.

/john

4 posted on 12/24/2001 8:24:02 AM PST by JRandomFreeper
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To: 1L
Sounds like a driver conflict. XP has the same kind of situation with certain third-party software. If this really bugs you, I suggest you ask about it on one of the Microsoft W2k newsgroups. You problem is probably not unique. You can probably solve it with a software patch, or by deleting some old software, or updating some old drivers on some other software you have installed.
5 posted on 12/24/2001 8:26:25 AM PST by KellyAdmirer
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To: 1L
woodyswatch.com
6 posted on 12/24/2001 8:27:36 AM PST by IRtorqued
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To: 1L
What version of NT did you have?
7 posted on 12/24/2001 8:28:57 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
4.0. And the reason I installed it over NT instead of a clean boot (aside from simplicity) is that I already had NTFS and I didn't have any apps there weren't ready for 2000. I ran the compatibility check prior.
8 posted on 12/24/2001 8:31:09 AM PST by 1L
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To: 1L
Check the Advanced tab in Power Options in control Panel. Check these settings.

You might try Microsofts Technet

9 posted on 12/24/2001 8:32:20 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: 1L
Make sure you have installed the latest service pack
10 posted on 12/24/2001 8:32:58 AM PST by Henk
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To: 1L
Take your MSWindows2000 CDRom back to the store and demand your money back. Upon your next boot, save all your files. Goto any one of dozens of Linux websites and download the version of your choice for free. Reformat your disk and install Linux with X11. Goto the Sun website and pick up StarOffice to resume your MSOffice environment.

This is the best information that I can provide.

11 posted on 12/24/2001 8:34:36 AM PST by Buckeroo
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To: 1L
Format your hard disk and install Linux.
12 posted on 12/24/2001 8:36:19 AM PST by RickyJ
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To: Henk
Make sure you have installed the latest service pack

1. Any problems with either SP?

2. Do I need to install SP1 THEN SP2 or can I go straight to SP2?

13 posted on 12/24/2001 8:36:22 AM PST by 1L
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To: Buckeroo
This is the best information that I can provide.

I appreciate your concern, but if I had wanted Linux, I would have installed it. I wanted 2000 for various reasons.

I'm beginning to think this may be a bios problem. Does that make any light bulbs go off?

14 posted on 12/24/2001 8:38:04 AM PST by 1L
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To: 1L
"Upgrading" over a previous install is nearly always a bad idea. 3rd party drivers can be "successfully" migrated but not really compatible; double check you have the newest W2K-certified drivers for all your hardware. Also, subtle registry errors can be pulled along as well--a million things can go wrong.

That said, did you install all the fixes available via Windows Update? Can you shut down successfully?

If so, it's probably a driver issue which is why it's important to get all those updates. Also, check the Advanced Power Management and try turning it off.

15 posted on 12/24/2001 8:39:04 AM PST by newzjunkey
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Nope, you're right - clean install is always preferred to upgrade install.
16 posted on 12/24/2001 8:40:21 AM PST by general_re
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To: newzjunkey
APM is off. I'm going to reboot now and check the bios.
17 posted on 12/24/2001 8:41:02 AM PST by 1L
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To: 1L
You can go right to SP2. Service Packs are cummulative.

I've found, and clients have found, SP2 is very good. One reason to get it is that it fixes an issue with memory allocation.

18 posted on 12/24/2001 8:41:07 AM PST by newzjunkey
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To: 1L
here's another web site to check
worldstart.com
19 posted on 12/24/2001 8:41:21 AM PST by IRtorqued
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To: 1L
Install Service Pack 2 immediately. I was having some issues with W2K, but SP2 resolved them.
20 posted on 12/24/2001 8:41:23 AM PST by SunStar
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To: 1L
1) you can go straight to SP2 - I highly recommend you do exactly that;

2) Is your machine ACPI-compliant? Did you select ACPI-compliant computer when you installed?

21 posted on 12/24/2001 8:42:04 AM PST by general_re
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To: SunStar
The compatibility tab alone is worth the time it takes to download and install SP2, as far as I'm concerned ;)
23 posted on 12/24/2001 8:44:17 AM PST by general_re
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To: 1L
Your upgrade to MSWindows2000 over WindowsNT must have been a decision for USB support. There could be no other reason, IMO. But go ahead and burn your money up. You will eventually come to Linux.
24 posted on 12/24/2001 8:44:57 AM PST by Buckeroo
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To: RickyJ
Like clockwork, the "Get a horse!" crowd can always be counted on to infest any thread where anyone is asking Windows-specific questions.

But I must admit the tacky (and juvenile) coloring book richard-wavery is a new twist. Let's hope it's as short-lived as it is annoying.

25 posted on 12/24/2001 8:45:20 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: newzjunkey
I seem to have shutoff problems myself every time I upgrade. One time it was burner drivers, another time it was network settings left over from a card I had pulled that caused the problem. It's not a problem confined to the W2k line, but a more general upgrading issue - though the actual conflict causing the problem here is perhaps W2k specific. Without knowing what he has installed and how it is configured, it is pretty difficult to diagnose precisely. Getting the latest W2k drivers for everything is a good idea. A clean install is even better.
26 posted on 12/24/2001 8:45:20 AM PST by KellyAdmirer
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To: 1L
I didn't experience that particular problem, but I did have a few problems when I tried Win2K.

One problem that I remember was an inability to print with my HP printer. Not only were there no drivers - not even any compatible drivers that I could find - but it wouldn't even use the drivers on the CD. It would run the printer, but special characters like bullets and square brackets were changed to something else.

So I went back to Win NT 4.0, the "old reliable" OS. It's working great, and the only thing I miss is the USB support, but I understand I can get an expansion board to facilitate that, when I'm ready to mess with it. I may even try Win2K again, if and when they produce the Service Packs required for normal operation.

27 posted on 12/24/2001 8:48:21 AM PST by Marauder
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To: 1L
I'm beginning to think this may be a bios problem.

Bingo. I had the same problem until I flashed the BIOS with an upgrade.

28 posted on 12/24/2001 8:48:31 AM PST by TomServo
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To: 1L
Unfortunately, my advice is a little late for you.

I use Windows 98, first edition, with all the patches.

I have not upgraded for several reasons. The main one being...

If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
 

29 posted on 12/24/2001 8:49:57 AM PST by aaaDOC
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To: Don Joe
Direct X Support and a more stable, faster operating system are reasons enough to upgrade to Win 2K. As the others have suggested, a clean install would be the best way to go. Every Win NT upgrade to 2000 I have seen has been troublesome. Update the BIOS and backup any data, and do a clean install with the floppy disks. You can format your drives during the floppy imstall...Have fun!
30 posted on 12/24/2001 8:50:28 AM PST by Wright Wing
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To: Sungirl
CAn you install that over NT? Did it say it would work? Does seem like alot to ask.

Yes you can. Windows 2000 is really NT5, and I've installed it over existing NT4 installations with no problems. I've done it on Dell laptops (Inspiron series) and desktops, along with "home brew" machines. Haven't had a hitch yet.

31 posted on 12/24/2001 8:50:47 AM PST by cidrasm
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To: 1L
I've seen this too, usually on a laptop setup for a network, but not attached to the network. During boot, hit F8 and select "Enable boot logging." This should tell you where the hangup is.
Merry Christmas
32 posted on 12/24/2001 8:51:49 AM PST by j_tull
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To: aaaDOC
Uhm..Windows 98 or ME is broken by default! I fogot to mention, that if possible upgrade to XP. All of 2000's benefits plus a few more..
33 posted on 12/24/2001 8:52:39 AM PST by Wright Wing
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To: 1L
Probably one of the easiest things to do is remove all cards (sound card, NIC etc..) from your system and reinstall with the bare essentials (hard drive, CD ROM, monitor, keyboard and mouse). Then once you have the system booting add the cards back into the system one at a time. Start with the NIC so you will beable to connect to the net and get SP2.
34 posted on 12/24/2001 8:52:45 AM PST by Souled_Out
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To: Buckeroo;bush2000;innocentbystander
"Your upgrade to MSWindows2000 over WindowsNT must have been a decision for USB support. There could be no other reason, IMO. But go ahead and burn your money up."

WTF would a Eunuchs geke know about it? Maybe he wanted to be able to swap PC cards w/o restarting? Maybe he wanted APM? Maybe he wanted the NTFM encryption? Maybe he had some other valid reason?

Why are the e-luddites so damned insecure that they've got to shove their... noses in where they don't belong, taunting anyone who asks for help or advice, just like the buggywhip boys who yelled "Get a horse!" whenever they saw a car with the hood up?

Guess what? You'll still see cars with the hoods up, but good f'n luck finding any of those buggywhip megacorps still in business. He who laughs last, etc. And it ain't gonna be the guys hyping the worn out two-gen-obsolete telco hacked-together OS. The proof of that is their interminable chest-beating and braying and bleating about how they're gonna mop up the floor with the "windoze" users, blah blah blah. Hint, boyz -- if you're gonna win, shut yer damn pieholes and do it instead of talking about it over and over and over. The more "y'all" rave on, the more you come off like a pack of sandlot outcasts who -- with shiner, ripped shirts, and scuffed pants, tearfully growl "you'll be sorry" from the sidelines at the laughing kids who just finished cleaning yer collective clocks.

"You will eventually come to Linux."

Oh, please. And you Eunuchs Geex have the chutzpah to noise-out your "you will be assimilated" crap WRT BG? UFB. If we "come to linux", it'll be to put that homebrew POS out of its misery.

35 posted on 12/24/2001 8:54:48 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: 1L
When I installed 2000 I had a similar problem, the problem was in the dial up connections, when I un-checked the Microsoft Networks box in each dial up connection the problem went away.
36 posted on 12/24/2001 8:55:58 AM PST by c-b 1
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To: Don Joe
Oh, yeah, I forgot: /end-rant, /sarcasm, /Ob :)
37 posted on 12/24/2001 8:58:17 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: 1L
Just a thought, but try booting up in "safe Mode", then shutting down. If that works, it's definatly driver related. If not, I would check APM and your BIOS rev. (Especially if you have a VIA chipset).

Good luck...happy holidays to you and yours..

38 posted on 12/24/2001 9:00:36 AM PST by Michael Barnes
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To: dominic harr
Paging Dominic
39 posted on 12/24/2001 9:02:22 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: unix
Totally unrelated question ,just thought I'd take advantage of a tech thread.
I have a Compaq(yeah I know)I want to do a clean install but I believe
compaq has the BIOS on a 2mb partition of the hard drive,
can I do it or do I have to use the restore disc.
40 posted on 12/24/2001 9:04:42 AM PST by damnlimey
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To: Don Joe
Let's see, now.... So you enjoy BUGS, do you? Time after time you hear about some sort of BUG with MS products. BUGS so terrifying that the FBI is called in because of MSOutlook or MSOffice macros. BUGS scouring the internet.

You never hear about BUGS with Linux other than minor nuisances ( all applications have minor nuisances, don't they? ).

Why in the world would you pay for BUGS when you can have a first class OS for free?

41 posted on 12/24/2001 9:05:09 AM PST by Buckeroo
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To: damnlimey
I have a couple Compaqs that had the same setups..I blew away the partitions on them because you can download the rompaq's from compaq's site and expand them to 4 floppies for later configuration of the machine without the 2mb partition.
42 posted on 12/24/2001 9:11:19 AM PST by Michael Barnes
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To: 1L
I had the very same problem when I first installed Win2k. It was indeed a BIOS problem. I went into the BIOS, turned off or disabled anything not absolutely essential and magically the machine booted up into Win2K. Then I went back into the BIOS, turned on items one at a time. Now all is well.

It is a good idea to write down what you are changing in the BIOS for later use.

Good Luck.

43 posted on 12/24/2001 9:19:41 AM PST by Blennos
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To: Buckeroo
An out of the download/box Linux is usually not secure either; it has to be patched. In that respect it and Windows are in the same boat. In another respect, however, it is in a far better position than Windows: anybody who wishes can look at the source code. It would be very difficult for a mole to smuggle anything into Linux.
44 posted on 12/24/2001 9:47:26 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: 1L
Win2K APM and Shutdown Issues I don't know if this is your answer, but it's another place to look.
I recently upgraded to Win2000 Pro, and I most definately love it. I have a 3 month old computer, lots of good ram, and Win2K is the fastest O/S I've ever used, and the most stable.
Before the penguin people jump on me, I'm also running Mandrake Linux 8.1 on two other partitions of this drive, and I have to agree with the pro-Win2K people. Sure, Linux is relatively stable, and not prone to a lot of internet virii, but the lack of quality graphics/web design apps keep me rebooting to Windows.
After finally taking the plunge to upgrade from Win98SE, I find I am hardly ever in Linux anymore. With a good up-to-date virus program, and Zone Alarm, internet security is no longer much of an issue in Windows. IMHO.
45 posted on 12/24/2001 9:55:43 AM PST by Still Using Air
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To: Still Using Air
Obviously, I haven't learned the correct html for linking. Sorry:
Copy and Paste, I guess. http://is-it-true.org/nt/nt2000/atips/atips42.shtml
46 posted on 12/24/2001 9:58:36 AM PST by Still Using Air
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I agree with you. But I think you are emphasizing internet access such as your various ports about the TCP/IP stack. To me, this is easily fixed with an inexpensive external hardware firewall or router.

For those folks wanting to be on the internet with their computers it is important to secure your computer independent of any configuration model that the OS may provide ... otherwise, all you have is a toy.

47 posted on 12/24/2001 10:29:38 AM PST by Buckeroo
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To: 1L
I run 2000 servers and 2000 workstations. Runs like charm. But keep up on the patches ;-)

BUT, and this is a biggie, me and my guys could not get a machine to install over an existing NT install. We would even delete NT programs files all together, leaving just an NTFS disk with some unimportant (= to the install) data, .... still no go.

we did have one or two desktops we got working but there has been mystery problems ever since. But I would never ever try to upgrade a server in any manner. The last thing I need is more problems with IIS than just keeping up with the patches and the ASP cowboy newbies who host with us.

I believe it has something to do with data in the boot sector. Been noticing this type of problem with MS since Win 98.

Clean your disk... not FDISK, but if it is IDE, get a low level formatter (back up your data, of course). Low level formatting is a *must* to clean the boot sector. If SCSI, the built-in SCSI bios should do the trick (usually can be entered right after BIOS on boot. Then let 2000 do the partitioning and formatting (another thing I found out!)... It doesn't seem to like you doing the partitioning yourself beforehand.

I have been running MS servers and workstations since NT 3.51.... since before ASP (I belive it was IIS 2).... And after this last go around with 2000, I swore what I have swore a dozen times before.... slave the data disks, copy the data over, and do a low level and do a clean install.

In fact, in my 6-7 years of running MS OS's in production enviroments.... I have found the easiest way to fix any *system* problem is low level format and re-install.

pathetic in a way, but once you have 2000 operating, you will love it.

48 posted on 12/24/2001 11:01:08 AM PST by bigcheese
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To: bigcheese
Ummm, I hesitate to ask this, but I just (two months ago) got a Dell Inspiron 8100 with W2K Pro installed. It works like a champ, but I just received my upgrade to XP Pro. In light of the above, not to mention the hoops you have to jump through, is the upgrade worth it? I'm not a geek, but I do know my way around.

Any advice?

Merry Christmas to all!!

49 posted on 12/24/2001 11:23:08 AM PST by Wingy
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To: Wingy
We have only ventured to install XP on one workstation. Actually, it was a Dell that came pre-installed with XP. There was some fuss with some programs at the beginning (and I think you'll find public opinion on XP evenly split, possibly tilted slightly to the hate it crowd), but it seems to be stable and working now.

HOWEVER, the damn machine is a 1.4 Ghz with 512 (I believe) of RAM. And to me it is slower than snot on a freezing doorknob. BH (the employee) thinks it is great because of what I see as some minor faetures, but there is no way on this world that I would put up with that slowness. Then again, I am not a "have a thousand windows" open person. I might have five at the most, and not for any length of time. BH will have a bagillion gagillion open, and with XP you really cant tell, because one IE browser will show in the task bar, but you may have 20 instances of it open. You click on that one (or mouse over it, not for sure) and a window pops up that shows all the instances. So, my data with XP might be skewed as I havent really told her to get off her workstation and let me test it out.

Regarding a clean install on an older machine, dunno. But my experience says never try an upgrade.

What kind of processor / ram? Also, 10k disks are not?

50 posted on 12/24/2001 11:44:28 AM PST by bigcheese
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