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School apologizes for burning New Testament
Jersualem Post ^ | December 25, 2001 | Shoshana Kordova

Posted on 12/24/2001 4:49:53 PM PST by dlt

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To: Askel5
Hey, I'm chosen.

No Middle Eastern bazaar trader can be more chosen than me.

241 posted on 12/26/2001 10:53:40 AM PST by madrussian
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To: madrussian
Right, everything magically changed aftter the collapse, and people learned to hate, LOL!

It wasn't organized by foreign $$$ and mullahs as it is now.

I should ask all the Jews I've known in Russia, whether they are circumsized and HOW they managed to get that. LOL!

Now you are being stupid.. Being able to go to someone's house who does it, and having an official in the city's main hospital who does it are 2 different things.

There wouldn't be a regular flight from Israel to Bryansk, would there be? Since you are being slow, there is a large Jewish community in Novosibirsk and it's not "still left", there is a regular flight, get it?

You have a twisted logic. Bryansk is not that big first of all to have many international flights. Is there a flight from let's say Haifa to Novosibirsk? Jerusalem to Novosibirsk? Tel-Aviv to Okhotsk?

Ask those Jews in Novosibirsk, what they think about the idea of living in Tashkent.

How would they know? They never lived there.. What do you think of living in Luxumburg?

242 posted on 12/26/2001 10:54:55 AM PST by BrooklynGOP
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To: BrooklynGOP
That's a funny story. Wasn't Odessa famous for its gangsters? Have you heard the expression "Rostov-Papa, Odessa-Mama"?
243 posted on 12/26/2001 11:02:15 AM PST by madrussian
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To: madrussian
That's a funny story. Wasn't Odessa famous for its gangsters? Have you heard the expression "Rostov-Papa, Odessa-Mama"?

Odessa Mama? Sure. Odessa was famous for a lot of things. Humour, feisty girls, etc. Nothing funny about that story btw.. He was truly an evil person.. Not just a criminal who was out there to get some $$$.. He was truly sadistic.. I just called up my friend who went to my school, sent her the link, you should've heard her reaction :). Comes out that some kid punched her in the face in jr HS, and Nathan beat him up for that... What a gentleman ;). Thank G-d he is off the streets though. That P.....' guy whose name I am not going to mention. Anyway, his 2 friends followed some kid from school and robbed his apartment. Came out that the guy's grandfather was some top guy in the russian mafia. They were given one week to live New York state. From what i heard they went to Nevada. There are plenty of stories.

244 posted on 12/26/2001 11:06:31 AM PST by BrooklynGOP
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To: BrooklynGOP
wasn't organized by foreign $$$ and mullahs as it is now.

All that's needed to turn a peaceful and loving people in short time without any dislike for any particular group, into maraudering crowd, is $$$$ and mullahs?

ow would they know? They never lived there..

Yes indeed, how would anyone know anything without living there.

245 posted on 12/26/2001 11:16:24 AM PST by madrussian
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To: BrooklynGOP
That's a wild neighborhood you have there. I guess I'd have to go to San Francisco's Richmond district to have something remotly similar. And I don't think they are THAT bad there.
246 posted on 12/26/2001 11:18:02 AM PST by madrussian
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To: madrussian
That's a wild neighborhood you have there. I guess I'd have to go to San Francisco's Richmond district to have something remotly similar. And I don't think they are THAT bad there.

Brooklyn is Brooklyn. That's what it famous for.. being a ghetto.. Russian crime is usually insurance fraud and extortion.. Violent felonies are very rare, and are done by novie russkie. Go to the black part of town if you want to see some real action ;)

247 posted on 12/26/2001 11:20:55 AM PST by BrooklynGOP
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To: BrooklynGOP
Being able to go to someone's house who does it, and having an official in the city's main hospital who does it

At someone's house with a rusty knife? LOL!

I am not aware of how they got it done in Novosibirsk, but I have never heard them complaining about it. Do you suppose the fact that muslims get their dicks trimmed there too played a role?

248 posted on 12/26/2001 11:30:28 AM PST by madrussian
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To: BrooklynGOP
Those "Russian" mafiosi are really nasty, I hear. Growing up in Odessa must have screwed many people up.

Regarding "tolerance" in Central Asia, they just don't give a shit about anything. I personally saw people playing cards for money at the frontyard of the Ministry of Education in one of the republics, with "ministers" not payig attention.

249 posted on 12/26/2001 11:35:28 AM PST by madrussian
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To: madrussian
At someone's house with a rusty knife? LOL!

Well, maybe not rusty, but you get the drift.

I am not aware of how they got it done in Novosibirsk, but I have never heard them complaining about it. Do you suppose the fact that muslims get their dicks trimmed there too played a role?

Exactly. Thus muslims were more tolerant of Jews in those republis, then russians were. The point I was making all along.

250 posted on 12/26/2001 11:37:38 AM PST by BrooklynGOP
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To: BrooklynGOP
That's what it famous for.. being a ghetto..

I remember an exchange with a poster who took grace offence when I used the word "ghetto" when refering to the place where Jewish "refugees" live in San Francisco. People have no idea, LOL!

251 posted on 12/26/2001 11:37:56 AM PST by madrussian
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To: madrussian
Those "Russian" mafiosi are really nasty, I hear. Growing up in Odessa must have screwed many people up.

Has nothing to do with Odessa. Most of these criminals are not from Odessa, either. Just because brighton is called little Odessa, doen't mean that everyone who lives there is from Odessa, or that everyone who is a criminal lives on brighton beach. Nathan wasn't from Odessa. Growing up in Odessa has nothing to do with being a criminal or not. Check crime statistics of the soviet Odessa and Moscow, or any other major city.

252 posted on 12/26/2001 11:39:16 AM PST by BrooklynGOP
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To: Dale 1
…the book-burning was an anti-missionary activity and not an anti-Christian one…; "It was appropriate to burn the New Testament in private,"; The teacher said that if missionary material were found in the school again, it would be thrown into the garbage rather than publicly burned.

Oh my! It’s hard to tell the difference between the Taliban and Israel with this sort of law and logic in play.
Huh? This is a private school! They are not enforcing their values on the country. In their minds, they were simply protecting the school. How is that Taliban like? Did they shoot the missionaries? No, they destroyed the materials they were given.
They handled it poorly. They simply should not have accepted any materials from missionaries.
However, most people on this list need to understand that many Jews are deeply threatened by Christian missionaries. While these missionaries handed out the books from love, Jews have a long memory. We remember forced conversions and rampant anti-Semetism in Europe.
Having missionary work in Israel goes beyond this. It is seen as an invasion. Religious Zionists see Israel as a place were we are to follow Gods laws. To have someone try to convert children on their way to school is an affront.
I have always been offended by a religious symbol (Star of David) on the side of police cars, tanks, fighter aircraft, and ambulances in Israel. Hell, democrats do this sort of thing in this country all the time.
Israel is not the US!
But at this crucial junction marking the safety and life of people around the world, one would think that any thinking person would be more interested in slowing the flames of hatred instead of fanning them.
The administrators in the school considered their actions to be PROTECTING the students. They did not tell the students to expell the missionaries. They suimply want to be left alone!
Israel is indeed threatened, and has been since its inception. I am a Christian – Yet I will always defend her. If some Jews become Christian along the way – or some Christians become Jews along the way – so what! This is not a religious war between Christians and Jews. What this is, is simply a need and a choice or each man on earth to find his/her own path through life. We are all only trying to raise families, live decent lives. Every really good Jew should be happy when someone among them finds the path to heaven.
Perhaps you don't realise that Jews consider Christianity to be a false religion and that Jews who convert are damning themselves.
When you go try and convert Jews, you are attacking them as far as we are concerned. Look, there are fewer than 18 million Jews in the world. We cant afford to have every child, especially those in religious schools be converted.
Israel needs to back off with the religious police approach and spend more time and effort on (they already do) defending their right to exist.
What is the point of defending the Stae of ISrael, but not the people and religion of Israel?
253 posted on 12/26/2001 11:40:19 AM PST by rmlew
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To: BrooklynGOP
Exactly. Thus muslims were more tolerant of Jews in those republis, then russians were. The point I was making all along.

You mean the fact that they trimmed both Abdullah and Misha makes them more tolerant? Intolerance is trying to suppress someone else's customs, like that Jewish writer demanding the usage of politically-correct version of the date. If the customs are the same, or similar enough, it's not tolerance.

254 posted on 12/26/2001 11:42:52 AM PST by madrussian
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To: BrooklynGOP
I remember an exchange with a poster who took grace offence when I used the word "ghetto" when refering to the place where Jewish "refugees" live in San Francisco. People have no idea, LOL!

*shrug*
Ghetto is from yiddish.. but it doesn't just apply to Jews.. Brooklyn is ghetto.. You have blacks living together, latinos in a different section... Italians/Jews get a long quite well.

255 posted on 12/26/2001 11:45:41 AM PST by BrooklynGOP
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To: madrussian
If the customs are the same, or similar enough, it's not tolerance.

Ok. So would you say that Christianity is tolerant, when one of its main points is to convert everybody on the planet? Is that real tolerance?

256 posted on 12/26/2001 11:46:57 AM PST by BrooklynGOP
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To: BrooklynGOP
You mean the fame that Odessa had for being a gangster city, was undeserved? Or that it was cleaned up as of the late Soviet period?

Yeah, I'd like to see the stats, but whenever a story breaks out about "Russian" mafia, most of the time there are Jewish names. But they could be not from Odessa, LOL!

257 posted on 12/26/2001 11:47:21 AM PST by madrussian
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To: BrooklynGOP
Please tell more how Christianity is intolerant. I'd like to hear it from the horse's mouth.
258 posted on 12/26/2001 11:49:56 AM PST by madrussian
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To: BrooklynGOP
So would you say that Christianity is tolerant, when one of its main points is to convert everybody on the planet? Is that real tolerance?

Which religion is more tolerant:

1. The one that says "We love everyone so much that we want to make sure that they are saved and have eternal life; or,

2. The one that says "Screw everyone else, we are the chosen ones, let's not tell them about our little secret."

Before everyone goes crazy, I do not think that the religion in #2 is intolerant, however it is an appropriate defense when relgion #2 calls religion #1 intolerant simply because they are trying to share salvation with everyone.

259 posted on 12/26/2001 11:50:58 AM PST by Rodney King
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To: Rodney King
1. The one that says "We love everyone so much that we want to make sure that they are saved and have eternal life; or,

Mmm.. NAMBLA will have you know that they are doing little boys a favor, how do you respond to that?

2. The one that says "Screw everyone else, we are the chosen ones, let's not tell them about our little secret."

Unlike Christianity, Judaism doesn't differentiate between Jews and non Jews in afterlife. All you have to do is be righteous in life.

260 posted on 12/26/2001 12:35:44 PM PST by BrooklynGOP
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