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..PEARL HARBOR Commission to look into the CLINTONS' 9-11-01 = USA Today
USA Today ^ | 12/25/2001 | SUSAN PAGE - USA TODAY

Posted on 12/25/2001 9:48:24 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE

NEVER FORGET

...On a glorious Christmas Morning a most credentialed ..USA TODAY.. Washington Bureau Chief -&- immediate past President of the White House Correspondents Association ..SUSAN PAGE.. reported on the FoX News Channel's ..'FoX and Friends'.. TV Interview Show that not only will the U.S. House and U.S. Senate conduct investigations into who is at fault for Sept 11th...

...as she was discussing the CLINTONS' non-actions against Terrorist Attacks on anything American during the 1990's...

...but that there will also BE a BLUE RIBBON Commission set up in 2002 to do the same.

...COLOR THAT...

...just like the World War II ..PEARL HARBOR.. Investigating Commission.. that looked into just who was at fault for the December 7, 1941 Attack on PEARL HARBOR ...like we have been calling for ever since the September 11th Airstrikes on America here on.. www.FReerepublic.com .. from that Day of Infamy ...on. That first such Investigating Commission came out with its factual findings just 6 months after PEARL HARBOR.

...For GOD does indeed work His Miracles in very Loving Ways...?

NEVER FORGET


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...check out the.. www.WeWereSoldiersFILM.com .. Message Board -General Discussion- -Off Topic- Thread titled:

'September 11, 2001--Another Day That Will Live in Infamy'

May GOD always BLESS AMERICA and protect her from her Enemies Within.

1 posted on 12/25/2001 9:48:25 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
"After you've heard two eyewitness accounts of an auto accident it makes you wonder about history."

Hope ya had a good holiday Ronnie, Stay Safe !

2 posted on 12/25/2001 9:57:26 PM PST by Squantos
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To: Judicial Watch;goldilucky;Snow Bunny;miss print;reformjoy;buchanan mama;reformjoy;kristinn...
...ALOHA Ya'll ..-&-.. Yipee...
3 posted on 12/25/2001 10:00:56 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: Squantos
...Folks coming out to see our Mega-Christmas Lighted neighborhood were really in the Mood for a Crazy Dancing SANTA CLAUS greeting them as they drove on in.

...For even after Sept 11th ..there really is Spiritual JOY to be had in GOD's most Beloved America.

Signed:..A Crazy Dancing SANTA CLAUS-2001

4 posted on 12/25/2001 10:05:40 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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By Maria Ressa
CNN Correspondent

MANILA, Philippines (CNN) -- The FBI was warned six years ago of a terrorist plot to hijack commercial planes and slam them into the Pentagon, the CIA headquarters and other buildings, Philippine investigators told CNN.

Philippine authorities learned of the plot after a small fire in a Manila apartment, which turned out to be the hideout of Ramzi Yousef, who was later convicted for his role in the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center. Yousef escaped at the time, but agents caught his right-hand man, Abdul Hakim Murad, who told them a chilling tale.

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"Murad narrated to us about a plan by the Ramzi cell in the continental U.S. to hijack a commercial plane and ram it into the CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia, and also the Pentagon," said Rodolfo Mendoza, a Philippine intelligence investigator.

Philippine investigators also found evidence targeting commercial towers in San Francisco, Chicago and New York City.

They said they passed that information on to the FBI in 1995, but it's not clear what was done with it.

One week ago, two hijacked commercial jets slammed into the World Trade Center, collapsing the towers. Another jet hit the Pentagon and a fourth crashed in rural Pennsylvania. Authorities believe that fourth jet may have been headed for the Capitol or the White House. Thousands were killed in the attacks.

On Monday, FBI Director Robert Mueller insisted the agency had "no warning signs" of last week's attacks.

Yousef and Murad both have ties to Osama bin Laden, the man President Bush has labeled the "prime suspect" in Tuesday's attacks.

Authorities also found on a computer in the Manila apartment details of a separate plot to bomb 11 U.S. airliners on overseas flights.

Yousef once listed his occupation as "international terrorist" on an ID card, and he has long been considered a disciple of bin Laden.

Murad was a pilot who admitted he had been trained in Afghanistan as well as the United States. Bin Laden, a Saudi native, lives in Afghanistan.

"(Murad) was principally recruited by Yousef's group and bin Laden's group to undertake a suicide mission," said Avelino Razon, superintendent for the Philippine National Police.

Yousef was eventually caught in Pakistan and brought to New York for trial. He was sentenced to life in prison. Murad is also serving a life sentence.




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5 posted on 12/25/2001 10:27:41 PM PST by AJFavish
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
The Village Voice: Nation: Local Is Global by Luis H. Francia
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Nation

Week of September 26 - October 2, 2001


Bomb Plots in Manila, Mayhem in Manhattan
Local Is Global
by Luis H. Francia


houldn't there have been an indication, a whiff, a telltale sign of the making of the September 11 tragedy within the vast realm overseen by U.S. Intelligence agencies—backed as they are by billions of dollars and the latest high-tech spy gear—that would have clued them to the plans for this horrendous attack? The demonic but brilliant execution that demolished the World Trade Center twin towers, heavily damaged the Pentagon, and killed thousands of innocent people, indicated meticulous planning, training, and the coordination of disparate elements—including the in-plain-sight disguise of the suicide bombers themselves. This kind of operation would have taken years of painstaking plotting.

According to Federal Bureau of Investigation director Robert Mueller, there were "no warning signs" of the kamikaze assaults. But somewhere in its files there is information indicating that as early as 1995 there existed a chilling plot code-named "Project Bojinka," which included mid-air bombings of planes headed to the United States from Asian countries on a single day, as well as hijacking airliners and crashing them into targets like the CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia. According to Philippine authorities, this information was passed on that year to the U.S. Embassy in Manila and to the U.S. Joint Task Force on Terrorism.

Evidence of the plot surfaced when Ramzi Yousef—one of three men convicted subsequently for the 1993 WTC bombing and sentenced to 240 years in prison—hastily fled a burning Manila apartment (and the country) just 200 yards from the Vatican Embassy. Cops found Manila street maps and clothing remarkably similar to that of Pope John Paul's entourage—the pontiff was due for a visit a week from the discovery—suggesting a planned attempt on his life. They also discovered bomb materials and a laptop whose disks revealed plans for Project Bojinka—which means "loud explosion" in Arabic.

Speaking on condition of anonymity, a computer expert who regularly assists the National Bureau of Investigation (the Philippine FBI counterpart) and the Philippine National Police in their investigations of computer-related crimes said he downloaded the files, revealing the terrorists' diabolical project. One plan called for the hijacking of U.S.-bound commercial airliners from various Asian capitals and then, according to him, crashing them into "key structures in the United States: The World Trade Center, the White House, the Pentagon, the Transamerican Tower, and the Sears Tower were among the prominent structures that had been identified in the plans that we had decoded." The expert pointed out that in fact a dry run had been conducted in 1994, on a Tokyo-bound Philippine Airlines flight, when a small bomb under a passenger seat went off, killing a Japanese tourist.

When I noted the discrepancy between blowing up the planes in flight and crashing them into buildings, the expert said, "When we searched the files in the archive, there was a specific plan to blow planes up, but there were several other plans. One of them was to crash [the planes] into specific targets." Abdul Hakim Murad, also convicted in the 1993 bombing and Yousef's Manila roommate, admitted to Philippine investigators that he suggested to Yousef hijacking a U.S. airliner and crashing it into the CIA building. Also, according to a Washington Post article, his interrogators learned that Murad had taken flying lessons at aviation schools in San Antonio, Schenectady, New York, and in New Bern, North Carolina.

The U.S. response, according to the computer expert, was to demand of various Asian governments that they tighten up airport security, or otherwise face a ban on their national airlines landing on U.S. soil. He wonders why U.S. security experts did not imagine a similar scenario that would have had terrorists hijacking domestic U.S. transcontinental flights.

The terrorist scheme at the time was described by Vince Cannistraro, former director of the CIA's counterterrorism division, as "extraordinarily ambitious, very complicated to bring off, and probably unparalleled by other terrorist operations that we know of"—words that portray accurately the September 11 atrocity. Immediate suspects then were Saddam Hussein or the hard-liners in Iran. And despite the lack of U.S. government pronouncements on the possible involvement of Iraq in this second, spectacularly successful attack, and the obsessive focus on, even mythification of, Osama bin Laden, it makes sense to still place Saddam high on the list of suspects.

Along with Yousef, several members of the extremist group Abu Sayyaf were linked to the alleged plot to assassinate the pope. ("Abu Sayyaf" means Bearer of the Sword, an apt term for its mujahideen, who envision a pure Islamic state. The formal name of the group, however, is Al Harakatul al Islamiya, or the United Islamic Movement.) Abu Sayyaf is based in southern Mindanao, where Islam predates the 16th-century arrival of Christianity in the Philippines.

Abu Sayyaf's founder was Ustadz Abdurajack Janjalani, a Filipino and a militant preacher who fought the Russians in Afghanistan, where he and mujahideen like Osama bin Laden were trained by the U.S. At the end of that conflict he returned to the Philippines and formed Abu Sayyaf. He was killed in a 1998 firefight with government soldiers. Now led by his younger brother, Abu Sayyaf has attracted hard-line dissident members of the Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF), the largest group to have fought the Marcos regime for an independent Muslim state. The MNLF turned moribund, however, when its head and founder, Nur Misuari, came to an agreement for limited autonomy with both Ferdinand Marcos and his successor, Corazon Aquino. The hard-liners continue to view the settlement as a sellout, their dream of an independent Moro republic shot down.

In the rough and tumble region where the center has never held and resistance to Christian Manila is centuries old, warlords and their small armies, rooted in clans, dominate the political arena. Dissident groups, a regular phenomenon, are referred to as "Lost Command" outfits, to indicate that they operate beyond the pale—though they are believed to act as proxies for the more established groups, in much the same way that the holy warriors in Afghanistan acted as proxies for the U.S. (as did Hussein and Panama's Noriega) during the Cold War.

Abu Sayyaf has proved to be an especially large thorn in the side of the Philippine military since the early 1990s, with its bomb attacks in southern cities and raids on Christian villages, but especially since its 2000 kidnapping of 21 tourists and workers from Sipadan, a Malaysian resort, after which they crossed the porous border back to Jolo, a southern Philippine island where extremist Muslim groups are based. Emboldened by its success in gaining millions of dollars in ransom monies, which has enabled the group to purchase more high-powered arms and recruit more men, Abu Sayyaf struck again last May in a similar operation, this time taking hostages (including two American missionaries) from a plush resort on Palawan, the westernmost island in the Philippines.


Why would such a group attract Bin Laden's attention? Other than its extremist views and propensity for violence, there are more mundane reasons. A Janjalani sister is reputed to be one of Bin Laden's wives, and Bin Laden's sister is married to a Saudi businessman, Mustapha Jammal Khalifa, who also has a Filipina wife and visited the Philippines several times in the 1990s. He set up a foundation that Philippine military intelligence believes serves as a conduit for Al Qaeda funds to Abu Sayyaf. Al Qaeda has also provided monies to another larger armed fundamentalist group, the Moro Islamic Liberation Front, which has battled the Philippine army, but in the past year has remained quiescent.

If these files were available to the FBI as early as 1995, why then were we caught flat-footed? Why wasn't closer attention paid to Project Bojinka, to the possible sponsor or sponsors behind it and behind Ramzi Yousef? In an interview with The Washington Post, Robert Heafner, now retired but the 1995 FBI head in Manila, said,"I believe everything was done that could have been done." Voice queries to the FBI's press office yielded a terse "No comment." Similar questions directed at the State Department's Joe Reap, from its counterterrorist division, were equally fruitless.

In an essay written this past June for the Middle East Intelligence Bulletin titled "Iraqi Complicity in the World Trade Center Bombing and Beyond," Laurie Mylroie, author of Study of Revenge: Saddam Hussein's Unfinished War Against America, argues that "a 'Chinese wall' stands between the Justice Department and national security bureaucracies." In cases of terrorism on American soil, the question of foreign "state sponsorship is entirely subordinated to the criminal question of determining the guilt or innocence of the individuals charged with the terrorist attack."

Another crucial point Mylroie makes is that Iraq's hand can be inferred from the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. I asked her if she felt that way about the second attack. She replied, "I can't actually see anyone else." Bin Laden's capabilities, she feels, are overblown. He serves as a "false flag," i.e., a front for another party. If Mylroie's thesis is correct—and she makes a pretty persuasive case—once the 1993 World Trade Center bombers were placed behind bars, the very real possibility that Project Bojinka would still be put into effect, that an organization much larger than Al Qaeda might back it (albeit very possibly with Bin Laden's participation), was essentially filed away and forgotten.

In my last conversation with the computer expert, he said he had gotten a call from a friend, a retired FBI agent now living in the Philippines. This man said he remembered the reference to crashing planes into specific targets. According to the expert, the agent said, "This was ignored in the preparation of evidence for the trial because [then] there was no actual attempt to crash any plane into a U.S. target. . . . So there was no crime to complain about. . . . " The conversation between the two ended with the ex-agent warning the expert to take extra precautions, as he had played a role in the jailing of the terrorists.

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6 posted on 12/25/2001 10:31:14 PM PST by AJFavish
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
I just hope there is no cover-up for an ex-President.
7 posted on 12/25/2001 10:39:38 PM PST by joyce11111
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Can anything stick to klintoon? The lone exception is; what stuck to a blue dress.

I hate to get my hopes up again. This will quickly become something the press can get behind to demonize the right...again!

8 posted on 12/25/2001 10:50:22 PM PST by SeeRushToldU_So
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To: SeeRushToldU_So;A J Favish;Landru
...Sept 11th is shaping up to be nothing less than the 2nd Impeachment of a BILL CLINTON by the American People who no longer sits in our White House that he NEVER wanted to leave in the first place.

...BILL CLINTON knows this so well already. Witness his gathering together of his 1st Impeachment Team in his Harlem Office last week to start things rolling to Confuse US on National TV again the way he did his Impeachment's first time around

9 posted on 12/25/2001 11:03:33 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
USA Today:Lawmakers eager for Sept. 11 inquiry
Bipartisan bills irk leadership in both parties

Hope we don't have to wait 12 years for some documents~

Here's to a better New Year,'ay?
Take Care....

10 posted on 12/25/2001 11:04:24 PM PST by hammerdown
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To: SeeRushToldU_So; Aloha Ronnie
Hopefully there will be some leftovers after this executive order is applied --
(13 Dec. 2001) President Bush has invoked executive privilege for the first time to keep Congress from seeing documents of prosecutors' decision-making in cases ranging from decades-old Boston murders to the Clinton-era fund-raising probe.
11 posted on 12/25/2001 11:13:32 PM PST by flamefront
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To: ALOHA RONNIE;alamo-girl
Pulled Carl Cameron reports

Defense Memo Warned of Israeli Spying 'Ethnic Ties' Charge Draws ADL Rebuke

ANOTHER ISRAELI SPY SCANDAL IN WASHINGTON?

DSL anyone?

12 posted on 12/25/2001 11:16:29 PM PST by hammerdown
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
"Sept 11th is shaping up to be nothing less than the 2nd Impeachment of a BILL CLINTON by the American People"

Well lets hope this time somebody ACTUALLY does something.
So far Chinagate and Pardongate have been given free get out of jail cards by the Justice Dept.
11 months into this administration and no action at all on him, or hitlery or anybody in the DNC.
13 posted on 12/25/2001 11:34:18 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
"to Confuse US on National TV again the way he did his Impeachment's first time around"

Maybe this is why Rupert Murdoch hired Geraldo.
More on what Rupert Murdoch has been up to.
Here is a real eye opener
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14 posted on 12/25/2001 11:39:22 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Well, there are comissions and there are congress people hungry for democracy and Clintons addicted to the leverage of power much like a druggy additcted to the leverage of his drugs on his body.

Never Forget, Pearl Harbor Commission, Here goes nothing with hopes it will be effective.

15 posted on 12/25/2001 11:50:08 PM PST by lavaroise
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Jeeeze. Lots of capital letters and stuff. Difficult to read. Any of you kids like to subdue your enthusiasm? If not, maybe "mtv" tv might be your choice.
16 posted on 12/26/2001 12:10:25 AM PST by Cobra64
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Playing on the parallel with the "first" of the Pearl Harbor investigations - in the role of Judge Roberts - I nominate Janet Reno.
17 posted on 12/26/2001 12:44:36 AM PST by jamaksin
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To: flamefront
Anyone know why Anyone know the real reason Bush did this?
18 posted on 12/26/2001 1:38:06 AM PST by DooDahhhh
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To: DooDahhhh
cannot type yet this am : )
19 posted on 12/26/2001 1:39:39 AM PST by DooDahhhh
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To: SeeRushToldU_So
It's a strange thing: of the many scandels that Clinton created and participated in throughout all those horrible years of his occupation, the one thing that really destroyed his name for all eternity was that little blue dress (ok, so it was a freakin' tent). Everything else didn't seem to stick until that came to light, then it all seemed to fall in place, right on top of his "legacy".
20 posted on 12/26/2001 2:00:49 AM PST by Caipirabob
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
"...BILL CLINTON knows this so well already. Witness his gathering together of his 1st Impeachment Team in his Harlem Office last week to start things rolling to Confuse US on National TV again the way he did his Impeachment's first time around."

You might be right here, Sarge.
But if you are?
Just take solice in knowing the worm's having to pay for the (immense) effort outa his own pocket this time.
The level of *cooperation* he can count on recieving, from all those familiar forces that're seemingly unrelated to his cause?
Are going to be severly reduced.
First question anyone's going to ask themselves before stepping-up to take a shot for him will be a simple, thundering, "Why?"
The worm will be alone, & the knives by now are mighty sharp.

...from a source that'll suprise all, this one's gonna get whacked; just wait & see.

21 posted on 12/26/2001 3:12:56 AM PST by Landru
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To: DooDahhhh
Let's not get all hyped up over this,Bush will see to it,that nothing becomes of it.
22 posted on 12/26/2001 3:16:14 AM PST by cayman99
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To: joyce11111
From recent statements by Dick Morris who has documented his statements to clinton regarding responding to terror attacks, it would seem that the stage is getting set for some serious questions.......soon Morris will be in the witness protection program.....hiding from Arkancide!!
23 posted on 12/26/2001 3:49:00 AM PST by OldFriend
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
And if the DemocRATS have their way the result will be the same as the Pearl Harbor Commission.

Blame the wrong people.

Please read "Day of Deceit" and you will see that the blame for Pearl Harbor lies with FDR, not Kimmel and Short

Regards,

24 posted on 12/26/2001 4:11:44 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Which party controls the Senate? And what beast, being groomed for 2004, in that party has the last word? If SHE wasn't convinced this would all work out, surely when asked by Larry King whether she was agreeable to a commission she would have been less than enthusiastic. On 9/11 while she purported to be worrying where Chelsea was and simultaneously thinking how Bush's tax rebate would come back to harm us, me thinks she spent the time dusting off the FBI files and getting her ducks in a row planning for the inevitability.
25 posted on 12/26/2001 5:21:05 AM PST by StarFan
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
I'm afraid that WE have to prtect ourselves from"Our Enemies from Within"!A good start would be to STOP ELECTING THEM!!General Short and Admiral Kimmel were the SCAPEGOATS for Pearl Harbor and The Warren Commission told us that Mr. Oswald pulled off the assassination of JFK all by himself,so I don't have much faith in these Blue Ribbon panels!!If a majority of the blame was attributed to"Arkantrash",it would just be branded by Mr.Dashole and his lemmings to be PURE POLITICS!!!
26 posted on 12/26/2001 5:31:36 AM PST by bandleader
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Witness his gathering together of his 1st Impeachment Team in his Harlem Office last week to start things rolling to Confuse US on National TV again the way he did his Impeachment's first time around

In order for this strategy to again succeed, an antagonist will have to be created. Ken Starr was that person during impeachment, and the smears on him stuck because he felt the nature of his position did not allow him to respond to the attacks.Will they go after Bush 41? His comments a week or so again pertaining to Johnny Bin Walker and his general disdain for Clinton illustrate that he (nor Barbara) will not sit idly by and be slammed.

Do they dare take on Bush 43? That would be a challenge Clinton would relish, but I don't know if his cronies would like to be on his side against the most popular President since WWII.

Initially, I believe the strategy will be to paint this "Pearl Harbor" committee as a partisan witch hunt. Henry Waxman and Patrick Leahy will be the ringleaders in this claim. I can hear Puffy D say in his soft voice, "I'm so disappointed, disappointed, disappointed...that the President and the Attorney General have chosen to pursue this matter in such a divisive, partisan fashion...

27 posted on 12/26/2001 5:36:48 AM PST by randita
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To: cayman99; DooDahhhh
"Bush will see to it,that nothing becomes of it."

I agree, at least not until after the 2004 elections. If he were to cooperate now it could end up being the subject that stops his reelectiion.

28 posted on 12/26/2001 5:47:51 AM PST by AGreatPer
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Clinton was inaugurated on Jan 20, 1993 and Ramzi Yousef and cohorts blew up the World Trade Center on Feb 26, 1993. So Clinton had nearly a full 8 years to work on the problem.

See the article (written in 1995): THE WORLD TRADE CENTER BOMB:
Who is Ramzi Yousef? And Why It Matters.
http://www.fas.org/irp/world/iraq/956-tni.htm

Excerpts:
ACCORDING TO THE presiding judge in last year's trial, the bombing of New York's World Trade Center on February 26, 1993 was meant to topple the city's tallest tower onto its twin, amid a cloud of cyanide gas. Had the attack gone as planned, tens of thousands of Americans would have died. Instead, as we know, one tower did not fall on the other, and, rather than vaporizing, the cyanide gas burnt up in the heat of the explosion. "Only" six people died.

But the more fundamental problem is that the Justice Department in Washington seems not to have been interested in pursuing the question of state sponsorship. In fact, the New York FBI office suspected an Iraqi connection early on, but the Washington brass seemingly wanted to tell America that they had already cracked the case and caught most of the perpetrators.

...Salameh himself is naive and manipulable. When one considers that he was arrested in the process of returning to collect the deposit on the van he had rented to carry the Trade Center bomb, it is not so surprising that on June 10, soon after being recruited into Nosair's plot, Salameh made the first of forty-six calls to Iraq, the vast majority to his terrorist uncle in Baghdad.

... It would be reassuring to know that, somewhere in the policy-apparatus of the State Department, someone is looking seriously at the possibility of future terrorist acts and at the requirements of effective deterrence.

29 posted on 12/26/2001 5:52:49 AM PST by MilleniumBug
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To: Squantos
"After you've heard two eyewitness accounts of an auto accident it makes you wonder about history."

Wasn't it Francis Bacon who said, "History is but the planks of a shipwreck?"

30 posted on 12/26/2001 6:16:09 AM PST by jammer
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Hate to burst anyone's bubble, but Pearl Harbor was investigated by no less than five Congressional panels, the most recent one chaired by Senator Strom Thurmond in 1995. Their (collective) conclusion? FDR and his cronies did not have advance knowledge of the Japanese attack, the primary blame lies with American commanders on the scene (Kimmel and Short), etc.

In sharp contrast to these "official" inquiries, investigative reporting by Robert Stinnett and others has revealed that the U.S. succeeded in breaking Japanese military codes well before December 7, 1941; U.S. officials knew a Japanese strike force was at sea in early December, and several U.S. radio direction finding stations pinpointed Japanese radio transmissions from the carrier force as it approached Hawaii. Beyond that, Stinnett uncovered a memo (from the naval intelligence officer that controlled communications intelligence messages flowing to FDR) that outlined a U.S. "strategy" of inviting a Japanese attack, as a way of securing America's entry into WWII. The memo, prepared by Navy Lt Cmdr Authur McCollum, was written more than a year before Pearl Harbor.

I mention these facts because they've never been a part of any official Pearl Harbor inquiry. If you want a "whitewash" of 9-11, support some sort of Congressional hearings or a blueribbon panel. I have little faith in them getting to the bottom of who's to blame...

31 posted on 12/26/2001 6:17:05 AM PST by Spook86
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
I'm glad Bush sealed the records from congress. Don't let the crimminals follow the investigation. That way they can't screw it up.

My greatest wish would be to see all the crimminals from the Clinton administration behind bars, but right now all I can do is wish.

32 posted on 12/26/2001 6:24:09 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
bump
33 posted on 12/26/2001 6:44:13 AM PST by FReethesheeples
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
In 1995 Clinton issued an excutive order telling the CIA and the FBI they cannot use people of questionable charactor to infiltrate terrorist organizations. That basicly stopped them from finding what people like Bin Laden where up to.

Also during this time Clinton was getting $Millions in ILLEGAL campain donations from the likes of the Chineese,drug kingpins,...etc.What would stop him from taking money from a front company owned by Bin Laden.Then repay him by leaving him alone.

34 posted on 12/26/2001 6:46:27 AM PST by painter
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To: Landru
Just take solice in knowing the worm's having to pay for the (immense) effort outa his own pocket this time.

I agree with your post but had to laugh at this one; I assume you mean that for once We the Taxpayers won't have to foot the bill but I doubt very seriously that bill and hill will *ever* pay their own way for anything.

35 posted on 12/26/2001 6:49:46 AM PST by LiberteeBell
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To: MilleniumBug;ChaseR;Alamo Girl;Republic;Judicial Watch;Carl/Newsmax;Clinton's a liar;Ron C....
...Thank you for your info linking Iraq to the World Trade Center Bombing-1993.

...It was CLINTON's own 1993-95 CIA Director JAMES WOOLSEY, who he never met with as President, that stated several times on National TV in the week of Sept 11th that it was the CLINTON Administration who KILLED the FBI's persuing its fruitful investigation into Irag's Link to that 1993 WTC Bombing ...by FIRING the FBI's Head of Investigation. The CLINTONS' Message was received loud and clear = Leave Iraq ALONE. Iraq "Got it" as well ...encouraging another Terrorist Attack on the World Trade Center later on.

...JAMES WOOLSEY went on to further state that Sept 11th Week ...that it was again the CLINTON Administration, starting in 1995, that KILLED our protecting CIA from hiring the on the ground spies we needed to find out what our Terrorist Enemies had planned against US so that we could stop them in advance. Mark that also for our Spying activity against Communist China.

...Former CIA Director JAMES WOOLSEY has been recently working for the BUSH Administration in our War on Terrorism (For Free) in firming up those same Iraq links to Terrorist Attacks against an America that the CLINTONS were sworn to protect ...but didn't.

...NEVER FORGET The CLINTONS = Partners in Terroism against America ever since the Turbulent 1960's ..made Turbulent by THEM.

36 posted on 12/26/2001 7:10:19 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Just Like Pearl Harbor, Huh? Damn! Right! Only MORE SO!

The Pearl Harbor investigation held over 55 years ago blamed the success of the invasion on the US General and Admiral commanding the defenese of Hawaii. They were both fired in the aftermath. ZERO blame was placed on Roosevelt and those in his Administration.

I can't believe anyone would applaud what is certainly going to happen in Daschle's and Hastert's congress.

Let me give you a clue!

The Clintons will be totally cleared. The Military, CIA, FBI, the Airlines will be blamed. Then congress will create a new Government Agency and give it dictatorial powers over all citizens to prevent 911 from ever happening again.

People who believe that anything negative about the Clintons will surface from a 911 congressional investigation, should write a book. They should title it "Gullibles Travels"


37 posted on 12/26/2001 7:12:24 AM PST by Common Tator
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38 posted on 12/26/2001 7:21:39 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: Squantos
Hope you had a great Christmas and santa was good to you and yours. The investigation may happen but it will be so colored with spin from the Clintonistas there will be little truth to it. I agree on the two eyewitness accounts of an auto accident.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

39 posted on 12/26/2001 7:28:58 AM PST by harpseal
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To: Squantos
"After you've heard two eyewitness accounts of an auto accident it makes you wonder about history."

Let me tell you Squantos; that was no accident! -Tom

41 posted on 12/26/2001 7:35:27 AM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
My fervent prayer is that this old saying comes true:

The mills of the Gods grind slowly, but they grind ever so exceedingly fine.

42 posted on 12/26/2001 7:52:05 AM PST by BOBTHENAILER
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To: LiberteeBell;goldilucky
"I assume you mean that for once We the Taxpayers won't have to foot the bill..."

Correcto-mundo; you assume correctly.
No more IRS to threaten & browbeat political enemies. ~fini~
No more FBI to keep an eye on *family* interests; nor, give forewarning of potential gathering storm clouds on the political *horizon*?
No more GSA to be used to keep all other federal agencies in-line?
No more authority to issue murkey, "EO"s commanding the instantaneous this, that, & the other to suit & buttress his every Leftist Sociocomm whim?
No more legions of government financed scheisters who'll *breath-life* into the, "Living Document" baloney they tried palming-off for justifying their atrocities against our constitution?
No more recieving a current up-to-date listing of their Liberal, self-appointed, "Activist Judges" who used to be in their que & at the ready to formalize their outrageous shenanigans?
No more FCC to pressure media corporations (in any number of ludicrous ways) to report &/or release all the *news* not fit to print?

In short?
For the Clintigula worm, the gig's up.
The boy *now* stands alone bare-assed naked against the world, 'Bell.
Methinks he's come-around to understanding this too, don'tcha know. :o)
'Tis true The Sink Emporer -- Prince-of-Sinks recieves a government pension -- yes; & that pension's really just peanuts, in the scheme of things.
Even recieved a hunk of loot so he'd describe for us just how he was abused -- yes, he sure did; supposedly $106 it was said?
But *now*, the white trash hillbilly's gonna find out just how little that *paltry* sum goes; IF he intends to command the same influence he enjoyed while living in our house?
~Yes he will.

"...but I doubt very seriously that bill and hill will *ever* pay their own way for anything."

Correct again; and, while I agree with your sentiment?
It'd be important to note all things living have a natural life cycle, too.

...leeches, vampires, bloodsuckers & 'Rat thieves notwithstanding.

43 posted on 12/26/2001 8:24:45 AM PST by Landru
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To: Landru
the hell...it's STILL on our nickel...haven't you see the slimeball's expense permissions?
44 posted on 12/26/2001 8:31:05 AM PST by Keith
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To: StopTheGuilt
First of all, WHO is the Enemy Within?

Second, how do you propose to "get rid of it?"

46 posted on 12/26/2001 8:41:11 AM PST by Poohbah
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To: Keith
"the hell...it's STILL on our nickel...haven't you see the slimeball's expense permissions?"

The, "it's" part is infinitesimal when compared to what this one's used to having a his beck & call command as a sitting POTUS.
The percentage of the power he's left is negligable.
And a Freshman Senator has practically no power a'tall.
Clintler's ass, "is" grass.

...faith first, then patience; the *fun* with this crook & traitor has only but begun.

47 posted on 12/26/2001 8:41:32 AM PST by Landru
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Any investigation that does not haul up Joe Biden and Pat Leahy immediately is just a show trial.
48 posted on 12/26/2001 8:54:41 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Witness his gathering together of his 1st Impeachment Team in his Harlem Office last week to start things rolling

Thanks for interesting thread, AR. A second impeachment is too good for this traitor. I wish, however, that you'd use the word "rolling" only in it's new "let's roll" form. Clinton doesn't roll, he slinks.

49 posted on 12/26/2001 9:04:37 AM PST by PoisedWoman
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; Broomhilda
**Mega Bump**
50 posted on 12/26/2001 9:11:23 AM PST by TwoStep
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