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J’Accuse
lewrockwell.com ^ | December 24, 2001 | Michael Peirce

Posted on 12/26/2001 6:34:07 AM PST by tberry

J’Accuse

by Michael Peirce

There has been a lot of criticism of LewRockwell.com on FreeRepublic, an ostensibly conservative discussion site. Much good comes out of that site, including excellent coverage of the latest war. Patriotism is considered de rigueur there and many of those who post are quite conversant with the constitution.

Others have never heard of it. LRC is referred to by some Freepers as a "blame America first" site. They are correct in supposing that LRC writers including myself are not gushing over the Republican Party. It is flawed thinking however, to suppose that we are by default, supporters of the left and are not patriotic.

I’m tired of taking this on the chin, and for several reasons. First, I was myself fighting communists when many of these guys were potty training. I’ve seen Communism up close and personal – with me it’s not just dislike of a political system – it’s hatred for a devilish secular heresy and yes, I believe this heresy, this dreadful murderous communism has come to America.

Giving a blank check to government is the quickest way to find ourselves under the shadow of the gulag and that won’t be pretty. I base this conclusion on a consistent pattern of government support for policies that harm America.

So I’m firing back with an accusation or two of my own and for reasons that should be obvious I chose to title this after the famous case from the end of the nineteenth century where the French government protected itself by blaming an innocent man for an act of treason committed by another man, a man who was in government. They were afraid it would make the government look bad. What could be worse?

That innocent man, Alfred Dreyfus, was falsely accused of treason, and wrongly convicted and sent to Devil’s Island. A guilty man went free because of his support for a corrupt government. A writer named Emile Zola made this a cause celebre when he wrote J’Accuse , an indictment of the government – ultimately Dreyfus was released, but not before Zola was accused of libel and spent ten years in exile. Justice was not the issue – Zola had dared to question the government and government had chosen Dreyfus as a scapegoat which was to have been the end of the story in their minds .

Lets consider the issues and use the facts to consider if government deserves our unswerving support.

Government most certainly did not make America great. We are, or were, great because of what we as Americans did, what we built and produced, and what we believed. We as a people were fairly devout and honored God, family and country. We worked hard and earned money that we kept for our own families. When the government clinched its fist against the Southern states there was a fringe benefit – the income tax. American no longer had control over their own finances. World War I, that least necessary of wars, sealed the tax in gold and FDR brought us the glory of income tax withholding. Nixon took us off the gold standard without so much as a "by your leave." Are we truly free when these people can take our money and use it to finance an agenda of which we do not approve? Is it unpatriotic to state the facts?

At this point in time we are in a bad recession and a war simultaneously – Yet this recession would be over if government would stop stealing our income, and that the war would be over if we would start hitting the real targets. We are not living the dream the founders had for us – it has turned to a nightmare.

I’m supposed to unconditionally support the government whose school system teaches about homosexual perversion as natural but declines to teach American history. I didn’t make this up – it’s your government folks – I start complaining when you question my patriotism because I don’t support this kind of nonsense.

Thanks to Planned Parenthood, NOW, and other extremist hate groups, our society, encouraged by government muscle, slaughters over a million babies a year. Our schools have drugged over half, yes that’s half, of the male children that attend. The teacher’s unions, who just happen to own the Democratic Party, are a treasonous cultural Marxist organization and we have surrendered our children to their tender care.

We are often reminded that it is remiss to criticize government in time of war. What has government done with it’s freedom to strike at will?

In the Persian Gulf War we had the spectacle of US troops replacing the gold faucets on the Kuwaiti Royal Family’s bath tub while acting as security guards for George Bush I and his oil buddies but where was the threat to American security?

They lured the Kurdish resistance to Sadaam Hussein out in to the open with calls from Bush to "rise up against the tyrant." Bush then allowed Sadaam to slaughter them with his gunship helicopters. Meantime, we’re flying operations Iraq for violating the no-fly zone and have kept it up for ten years. It is just me? Can’t you see this is not only wrong but downright stupid?

Next stop Serbia where Christians were bombed to protect Islamic terrorists and drug dealers – people whom the government has characterized as our enemies and enemies of freedom it self. We still have soldiers in Yugoslavia protecting these bums as they purge Kosovo of Serbians – even though we supposedly went there originally because of the horrors of ethnic cleansing! All this murder and then it turns out there was no holocaust, no rape camps – it was all propaganda. I’m unpatriotic because I don’t fall for these shameful lies?

Our government has been playing patty cake with these terrorists for years. As of three months before nine one one they sent hundreds of millions of our money to the Taleban and have yet to be called on it. They are now bombing the heck out of that same Taleban without comment on the former support extended to them. It’s unpatriotic we’re told, to bring that up.

We at lewRockwell.com have never suggested that the perpetrators of nine one one should get anything but grief. Somehow though, I keep asking myself what bombing Kabul did to further that endeavor? We did after all know about the camps and caves where the Al Qaeda organization could be found. Isn’t the shortest distance between two points a straight line? Not here in never never land.

According to WorldNetDaily.com our willingness to placate our "ally" Pakistan may have allowed bin Laden to escape with hundreds if not thousands of his terrorist gangsters. We heard on TV that Pakistan pulled out it’s own nationals who were fighting for the Taliban in Afghanistan while the US unilaterally ceased fire. That’s weird enough for one war but wait there’s more: Al Qaeda may have taken full advantage of this cease fire to get out of Dodge but I’ll let you judge how true this is .

Our one "honest" politician, John McCain, explained on CNN that we had to fight expand the terror war and attack Sadaam Hussein or he would harm Israel. Excuse me, but since when is Israel a part of the United States?

I for one have supported Israel for a long time and that time is about over. Allies that involve us in constant warfare, such as England and Israel, are classic examples of silly Americans propping up socialist countries who want nothing more than to have us under their thumb. Their own cultures live on a thin edge since their socialist systems do not work without somebody to prop them up. Do you like supplying the cash and the shooters for a bunch of socialists? I don’t like it – not even a little bit.

We know with absolute surety that the WTC was taken down by Muslim extremists, mostly Saudis. Yet the "evidence" tape so widely touted by the government turns out to have been "doctored" to avoid embarrassing our Saudi "friends." They are not my friends so whom can they be talking about? And why are the thugs at the airport shaking down granny when they know damn well that seventy five year old white women have no terrorist connections?

Meantime, back at Propaganda Central we are deluged with pro-Muslim nonsense and horrified by having Ramadan celebrated at the White House. Did they ask you if we wanted to become a "multi-cultural" country or did they just decide unilaterally to destroy that nasty old Western European Christian heritage? A heritage by the way that has provided a safety net for minorities for several centuries.

Worldwide, where there are a lot of Muslims there is war and social disorder. And I wonder every day why my government has brought six million of them here to my country, where they are more apt to water down our existing culture than assimilate.

How about government support for the UN? Do the right wing conservatives who are clapping their hands each time new "smart" bomb film is released to the networks wonder why the government is selling our national sovereignty down the tubes to that bunch of clowns in their Halloween costumes? Our government pays most of the bills for an organization that wishes to destroy our sovereignty, and uses our money to do it.

Have you wondered why this government which you claim it is treason to oppose, has failed to defend your borders against one of the largest mass migrations in history? Or do you like having eight million illegal aliens living next door to you?

Do you wonder why George Bush has refused to investigate the crimes of the most despicable criminal to ever hold office, his predecessor?

The reason folks, is simple. The Republicans are up to their necks in it. It’s not about some individual – it is the apparatus. We have a huge government system staffed by people who have an agenda other than ours.

The Constitutional Republic has been stolen out from under us, and much of this conservative posturing is based on wishful thinking. I understand all too well how good it would feel to believe in the Republic again but pretending we are still the America of old is a form of denial. If we want America back we have a lot of work to do and we need to start thinking straight.

I accuse the American conservative movement of capitulating to the neo-cons and giving a despotic government a free pass to give our constitution the coup de grace and create the warfare state they have been longing for. Israel’s cause is now our cause – even though several hundred Israeli intelligence operatives are still being detained in the wake of the WTC attack – some of them arrested before 911 and some immediately after. Here is a link http://www.antiwar.com/justin/justincol.html.

So let me return to FreeRepublic.com and note that virtually every fact I’ve stated here has been stated there. Yet for some at least of the Freepers, there is a serious disconnect somewhere between getting the information and processing it. Some of those folks, and many conservatives nationwide, fail to draw the conclusions that are supported by the facts. We can not trust this government, we should not trust them, and we are running out of time where that will matter because there will be no recourse.

These same folks fuss about gun control – do they think Sadaam Hussein is the one imposing that upon us? Perhaps ATF is part of the "elite" Republican Guard about whom we once heard so much. Or was it those nasty Chinese? Did Osama Bin Laden frame an American citizen for a murder he did not commit – or was that the FBI?

That same FBI which conservatives wish to empower to work in even more secrecy is the one that did that. This violates common sense – it is down right pathological that any one could support those people.

I accuse American conservatives of shortsightedness, and of a lazy man’s approach to patriotism. Some of you seem to view the culture war as the media against us and our protector, George Bush. I should think by now you’d have worked through the connection between government and media. They share an agenda, they are implementing it and we are straining at gnats while swallowing some mighty big camels.

I accuse American conservatives of taking the easy way out – it’s fun to shout "Rah Rah" when the terrorists get a bomb on their heads – I like it myself. But to pretend that this government should get our unequivocal support is a dangerous fantasy. Just ask your child if he is allowed to mention the "C" word in his government school. You know – "Christmas?" Chances are he is not. That wasn’t some foreign aggressor who foisted the cultural Marxist agenda on our taxpayer-supported schools. Who is the real "enemy of freedom itself," if not those who are destroying it systematically?

I accuse Southern American conservatives of tolerating disrespect for your ancestors and your heritage, collaboration with a wicked and heathen occupier and abandoning your God given task of being the conscience of this Republic. If I am wrong – then explain to me why the flag of the Confederacy no longer flies in America? There was a time when even Northerners stood up for the flag, which as a shared memory had helped re-unite us after the War Between the States. Now the cultural cleansing is in full gear and our shame is that it has been successful.

I accuse conservative Christians of pursuing aims like the support of Israel and the Drug War which have hastened the collapse of our Republic. Blue Laws made it clear to everyone in America that you can pressure government to impose your will on other people. You have put social agenda ahead of the Gospel and your personal politics over the intent of the Republic. Time spent in pursuit of political goals from a pulpit is time stolen from Christ and His Gospel. Let the laymen handle it.

To the American soldiers who in the midst of all this insanity, are doing an ugly job that has to be done, I salute you all and wish you a Merry Christmas – and particularly Captain Larry and his Marines, and Major Kirk and his MPs. They are in Cuba and Kuwait respectively and they deserve better backup than they are getting from us. They are prepared to die for our freedom – shouldn’t we at least fight for it too, here on the home front?

To the enemies of freedom, and of Western Culture, I wish you confusion and despair, that you might see the error of your ways and we might be protected from the horrors you are unleashing upon us. I pray that God will fill you with His grace that you might have eyes to see and find true repentance and the joy of His salvation.

And finally, to the folks who murdered those people in New York – I hope that Santa comes down the chimney soon….

December 24, 2001


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"Government most certainly did not make America great. We are, or were, great because of what we as Americans did, what we built and produced, and what we believed. We as a people were fairly devout and honored God, family and country. We worked hard and earned money that we kept for our own families. When the government clinched its fist against the Southern states there was a fringe benefit – the income tax. American no longer had control over their own finances. World War I, that least necessary of wars, sealed the tax in gold and FDR brought us the glory of income tax withholding. Nixon took us off the gold standard without so much as a "by your leave." Are we truly free when these people can take our money and use it to finance an agenda of which we do not approve? Is it unpatriotic to state the facts?"
1 posted on 12/26/2001 6:34:07 AM PST by tberry
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To: tberry
Do you wonder why George Bush has refused to investigate the crimes of the most despicable criminal to ever hold office, his predecessor?

I've been studying on this question for quite some time, and have yet to believe that I've got enough facts in hand to come to a reasonable conclusion. I'm glad that this author is so much smarter and insightful than I am.

There's a reason why I call it Spew Pukewell. ;-)

2 posted on 12/26/2001 6:39:35 AM PST by an amused spectator
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To: tberry
He does have many good points.
3 posted on 12/26/2001 6:53:29 AM PST by al_possum39
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To: tberry
The origianl "J'accuse" was a broadside published by Emile Zola in 1898. It summarized Zola's thoughts on the Dreyfus affair. ("Dreyfus was a Jewish French army officer whose trial for treason began a 12 year controversy that deeply marked the political and social history of the period - a fierce denunciation of the French general staff in the newspaper L'Aurore. It took the form of an open letter defending the innocence of Dreyfus." source

The title of this article summarizes everything that is wrong with lewrockewell.com and it's crew of loose cannons. they think they are like Zola, that they're doing something important. what they are really doing is wasting bandwidth, discussing how life whould be conducted if the real world was Never-Never Land.

4 posted on 12/26/2001 6:56:07 AM PST by John Hines
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To: tberry
Previously posted here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/596242/posts
5 posted on 12/26/2001 6:57:38 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: tberry
If this thread manages to survive, my view of the 'current' FR may improve a little.

But then... how many are really going to read this? I'd say the thread should be safe. It's as safe as if it were written in French.

Why would the Rockwell people be bothered about FR posters calling them names? Do they care about what DU has to say about them?

6 posted on 12/26/2001 6:57:39 AM PST by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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To: tberry
There has been a lot of criticism of LewRockwell.com on FreeRepublic

That's because LewRockwell is a bunch of Blame-America-First LEWsers.

7 posted on 12/26/2001 7:01:23 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: tberry; M1991; cdwright; mbb bill; ctdonath2; Zoey; kristinn; Rebeckie; Lucky; Sauropod...
ALL, DAMN fine rant. Peace and love, George.
8 posted on 12/26/2001 7:03:08 AM PST by George Frm Br00klyn Park
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To: tberry
I accuse American conservatives...

I accuse American libertarians of not being conservatives at all, but rather moral-liberal ideologues who largely agree with the DNC, the Greens, and the Spartacist League on moral issues.

9 posted on 12/26/2001 7:03:58 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: tberry
Already posted here.
10 posted on 12/26/2001 7:04:43 AM PST by Ligeia
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To: Lazamataz
I think they're becoming a "Blame Free Republic First" group.
11 posted on 12/26/2001 7:05:57 AM PST by Cyber Liberty
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To: tberry
How would Monty Python react? Oh yes, now I remember...

Spam-spam-spam-spam,

Spam-spam-spam-spam,

Spaaaaaaaam! Wonderful Spaaaaaaaam!

12 posted on 12/26/2001 7:11:07 AM PST by LibKill
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To: tberry
Lets consider the issues and use the facts to consider if government deserves our unswerving support.

Are we to take this as meaning that our only other choice besides accepting drivel from LewRockwell.com is to give government our unswerving support? That sounds like kind of a false choice to me. If this is the best he's got to use against Freepers, he's already lost.

14 posted on 12/26/2001 7:13:58 AM PST by Nick Danger
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To: The Spanish Inquisition
"The people on FR used to say that but turned chicken after 9/11."

I've been around FR long enough to know that "turning chicken" is the epithet of choice for anybody who disagrees with the libertarians.

15 posted on 12/26/2001 7:17:30 AM PST by Cyber Liberty
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To: Cyber Liberty
I've been around FR long enough to know that "turning chicken" is the epithet of choice for anybody who disagrees with the libertarians.

...which is ironic considering that most libertarians are really moral-cowards.

16 posted on 12/26/2001 7:27:01 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
"I accuse American libertarians..."

I accuse FR's authoritarian contingent of not being conservatives at all, but rather moral-repressive ideologues who largely disagree with the constitution on moral based freedom issues.

17 posted on 12/26/2001 7:27:02 AM PST by tpaine
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To: Cultural Jihad
"...which is ironic..."

You'll get no argument from me there.

18 posted on 12/26/2001 7:30:49 AM PST by Cyber Liberty
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To: Cyber Liberty
I've been around FR long enough to know that "moral coward" is the epithet of choice for anybody who disagrees with the authoritarians.
19 posted on 12/26/2001 7:33:55 AM PST by tpaine
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To: tpaine
I think this place is crawling with epithets. One of the reasons I enjoy it so much. I'd start a thread on the subject, but the Gestapo would get me.
20 posted on 12/26/2001 7:37:29 AM PST by Cyber Liberty
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To: tpaine
If the moral-coward shoe fits, then wear it. Let's hear how noble and holy and patriotic it is to sit back and allow people to destroy themselves and their society, comrade paine. The Spartacist League largely agrees with your mind-set.
21 posted on 12/26/2001 7:38:21 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: tberry
BUMP
22 posted on 12/26/2001 7:40:57 AM PST by Aurelius
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To: Cyber Liberty
The gestapo seems to have backed off, except when called in by the moral cowards.
23 posted on 12/26/2001 7:41:09 AM PST by tpaine
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To: tpaine
That remains to be seen. I've been off-shore for the past week, and I have to see if any more "cheese threads" get arbitrarily pulled, like they were a couple of weeks ago.
24 posted on 12/26/2001 7:46:03 AM PST by Cyber Liberty
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To: The Spanish Inquisition
They haven't changed. Lew has always said that the greatest enemy of freedom is the US government. The people on FR used to say that but turned chicken after 9/11.

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I guess that for over 5 years I've been reading a different website called FreeRepublic. The greatest enemy of freedom is a totalitarian regime that does not allow its people to freely elect its representatives.

I have concern about the growth and scope of our government, of course, but your statement is hyperbole at its worst. The Libertarian Party no longer has the appeal it once had for me.

25 posted on 12/26/2001 7:59:20 AM PST by doug from upland
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To: Cultural Jihad
If the moral-coward shoe fits, then wear it.

You are getting very adept at making generic smears skirt the personal attack rules. Are you calling me a moral coward? If so, be man enough to say so. [& don't worry, I won't snitch on you]

Let's hear how noble and holy and patriotic it is to sit back and allow people to destroy themselves and their society, comrade paine.

Comrade? Cheap slur. I served my country for three years, & swore to honor & defend the constitution. ----- Did you?

The Spartacist League largely agrees with your mind-set.

Never heard of em. ---But a very ugly authoritarian cultist contingent in american politics agrees with your mind set. They infect the conservative scene at FR, imo.

26 posted on 12/26/2001 7:59:38 AM PST by tpaine
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To: al_possum39
He does have many good points.

With no possible way to connect them. He lists a series of truths, semi-truths, and outright distortions and somehow develops a grand unified conspiracy theory. I'm surprised he left the Queen of England out of this rant.

27 posted on 12/26/2001 8:00:37 AM PST by Ditto
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To: Ditto
I'm surprised he left the Queen of England out of this rant.

And he forgot to mention Black Helicopters.

28 posted on 12/26/2001 8:07:10 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: tberry
Michael, I agree with your viewpoints, but I believe that freerepublic is no longer the place where you will find an ear. There is so much censorship at this sight that any thoughts that run against blind allegiance to Bush are quickly deleted. I will not be at all surprised if you have your privileges removed for this article.
29 posted on 12/26/2001 8:08:31 AM PST by freespeechplease
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To: freespeechplease
12/23/01
30 posted on 12/26/2001 8:12:38 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: freespeechplease
Michael, I agree with your viewpoints, but I believe that freerepublic is no longer the place where you will find an ear.

Why? Because your idiotic vanity post equating the founders to terrorists got so roundly panned?

There is so much censorship at this sight that any thoughts that run against blind allegiance to Bush are quickly deleted.

What a joke, considering that this is the second post of this thread and both have stayed up. You contradict yourself.

I will not be at all surprised if you have your privileges removed for this article

I doubt you're a newbie. What was your previous screen name?

31 posted on 12/26/2001 8:13:16 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Cyber Liberty
That remains to be seen. I've been off-shore for the past week, and I have to see if any more "cheese threads" get arbitrarily pulled, like they were a couple of weeks ago.

Yeah, isn't that... 'spatial'.

But then, I'm sure you'll find a solid majority approving such practices because... well... they were pulled for good reason, by 'good and intelligent people'. Right?

Then, with a movement which was as nearly as possible unconscious, he crumpled up the original message and any notes that he himself had made, and dropped them into the memory hole to be devoured by the flames. What happened in the unseen labyrinth to which the pneumatic tubes led, he did not know in detail, but he did know in general terms. As soon as all the corrections which happenedto be necessary in any particular number of The Times had been assembled and collated, that number would be reprinted, the original copy destroyed, and the corrected copyplaced on the files in its stead.


32 posted on 12/26/2001 8:15:01 AM PST by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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To: The Spanish Inquisition
They haven't changed. Lew has always said that the greatest enemy of freedom is the US government. The people on FR used to say that but turned chicken after 9/11.

No, some of us realize that we were attacked by thug terrorists, as opposed to most of the writers on Lew Rockwell, who seem to be always looking justification for the attacks on the United States. Some of us can be against actions such as the Patriot Bill without blaming this country for the terrorism that was perpetrated upon us, and some of us recognize that it is a legitimate use of federal power to go after our enemies.

33 posted on 12/26/2001 8:20:06 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
Sounds like a pretty accurate description of what goes on here.

Loud, vigorous disagreement won't be the death of FR. The anonymous Gestapo's vigorous use of Winston's "Memory Hole" will.

34 posted on 12/26/2001 8:21:38 AM PST by Cyber Liberty
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To: tpaine
Wow, a bunch of authoritarian "conservatives" who didn't read the article. Can you believe that?!
35 posted on 12/26/2001 8:26:21 AM PST by FreeTally
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To: tberry
It's really rather simple.

FreeRepublic is not a truckstop on the libritarian memorial highway.

Lewser is the dumpster out back of FreeRepublic's *****FIVE STAR***** Resturant.

Dumpster Divers go HOME!

36 posted on 12/26/2001 8:30:54 AM PST by FreedomFarmer
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To: tberry
Great article! I've got it feature linked on my page. Aw, Shucks!
37 posted on 12/26/2001 8:35:55 AM PST by shuckmaster
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To: an amused spectator
Not content with being foolish in their rants, they now begin whinning. Loser Rockwell.com
38 posted on 12/26/2001 8:36:09 AM PST by Moby Grape
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To: Cultural Jihad
...which is ironic considering that most libertarians are really moral-cowards.

Cowards run from fights, libertarians are in the arena taking on the drug war. You are merely cheering the government warriors on from the bleachers, knowing that the full force of government is behind you. Who is the coward?

39 posted on 12/26/2001 8:37:39 AM PST by coloradan
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To: FreedomFarmer
FreeRepublic is not a truckstop on the libritarian memorial highway.

True, but your idiotic post shows that FreeRepublic has sunk to the levels of intelligence generally lower than that found at a truckstop. Oh, and what is a "libritarian"? Lewser is the dumpster out back of FreeRepublic's *****FIVE STAR***** Resturant.

Oooooohhhhhh. That's clever. Unintelligent Freeper rule #1 - Make fun of someone's name and they are automatically discredited.

40 posted on 12/26/2001 8:40:15 AM PST by FreeTally
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To: FreeTally
Make fun of someone's name and they are automatically discredited.

I don't see a lot of people making fun of Spew's name, but I do see a lot of apt descriptions. ;-)

41 posted on 12/26/2001 8:44:46 AM PST by an amused spectator
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To: tberry
"I accuse Southern American conservatives of tolerating disrespect for your ancestors and your heritage, collaboration with a wicked and heathen occupier and abandoning your God given task of being the conscience of this Republic. "

That statement alone is evidence that Mr. Peirce is not a frequent visitor.

42 posted on 12/26/2001 8:54:04 AM PST by 4CJ
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
I am reminded of when I first found FR. There was much disention among the ranks as to who would run the show, Jim Robinson or Don Morgan, Mojo, and a bunch of others. There were the same complaints being made now about censorship, etc., back then. That little dust up spawned Lucianne.com and some others. Well, I don't suppose that you need to be reminded that Jim Robinson still runs the show here, and as a result, FR is continually outgrowing itself while the spin offs aren't doing too well.

Since some of you are no longer making contributions to the intellectual exchange here, instead just complaining about what FR is, or has become as you say, why don't you simply do as the earlier malcontents did and go do your own thing elsewhere?

43 posted on 12/26/2001 8:57:36 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
I'm generally doing that.

As far as the 'intellectual exchange'... I still enjoy the threads on the unified theory or Nietzche's last thoughts. So... I'm part of that.

If you are confusing 'intellectual exchange' with the so-called political discourse slash humor, I did make a significant contribution yesterday on a thread dealing with Heraldo and FNC. Needless to say, the thread disappeared.

44 posted on 12/26/2001 9:06:53 AM PST by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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To: billbears; sheltonmac; shuckmaster; wasp69; aomagrat; palmetto; JMJ333
BUMP for a rant worth reading...
46 posted on 12/26/2001 9:15:10 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: shuckmaster
Sorry Shuck. I didn't see you had already read it!

(GMTA)

47 posted on 12/26/2001 9:16:16 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: The Spanish Inquisition
A lot of people in England at the time thought that Neville Chamberlain was conducting "good foreign policy" in Munich.

"Maybe it's time for nations that are not Muslim theocracies to agree with this and outlaw Islam on the grounds that it is not a religion but a subversive political belief, an imperialistic, international terrorist conspiracy designed to overthrow democratic governments. Western democracies can and should hault immigration of Muslims and outlaw the practice of Islam on these grounds."

3 posted on 12/26/01 5:18 AM Pacific by Savage Beast

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Sometimes, mean people are just mean people. ;-)

48 posted on 12/26/2001 9:16:47 AM PST by an amused spectator
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
That little dust up spawned Lucianne.com and some others.

Actually, I think it was the other way around, if you know what I mean. Start a fight here to try to drive up the hits at your own site. Is Lucy.com still around?

49 posted on 12/26/2001 9:39:39 AM PST by Ditto
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To: Ditto
Is Lucy.com still around?

Don't know, don't care. I get all I need right here. If that ever stops I will not complain about it, I will just stop coming here. I doubt that will ever happen. Too many good posts to let the complainers get the best of me.

My memory is a little fuzzy about who came first, FR or LC. I learned of FR first, I think, but now i am not even sure about that. :-)

50 posted on 12/26/2001 9:51:54 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot
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