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Bin Laden: Attack on US to Stop Support for Israel
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Posted on 12/26/2001 12:38:08 PM PST by madrussian

LONDON (Reuters) - Osama bin Laden (news - web sites), the world's most wanted man, said on a video broadcast by al-Jazeera satellite television on Wednesday that the September 11 suicide attacks were intended to stop U.S. support for Israel.

``Our terrorism against the United States is worthy of praise to deter the oppressor so that America stop its support for Israel, which is killing our children,'' the bearded, Saudi-born fugitive said.

He added that the tape was being issued to mark about three months since the attacks on New York and Washington and two months after the United States began its bombing of Afghan targets.

The remarks indicated the tape was recorded in early to mid December.

Looking tired but calm, bin Laden was dressed in a clean, camouflage-patterned combat jacket. He sat against a cloth or canvas screen, his Russian-designed submachinegun propped beside him. There was no indication where he was when he recorded the video.


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1 posted on 12/26/2001 12:38:08 PM PST by madrussian
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To: madrussian
Waiting for a spin of the Israel-firsters of their "it had nothing to do with Israel".

Let me guess, they'll say "are you gonna do what that terrorist Osama wants you to???"

2 posted on 12/26/2001 12:40:14 PM PST by madrussian
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To: Either/Or
McDonald's and Starbucks in Saudi Arabia, dontcha know?
4 posted on 12/26/2001 12:41:43 PM PST by madrussian
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To: madrussian
``Our terrorism against the United States is worthy of praise to deter the oppressor so that America stop its support for Israel, which is killing our children,''

Working well, isn't it?

5 posted on 12/26/2001 12:43:18 PM PST by Restorer
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To: madrussian
Oh, please. He is just mitigating his damages. His group is already banned in all muslim states, and the only thing he can do to boost his image with them is to blame Israel. Funny how a year ago he made no mention of Israel.
6 posted on 12/26/2001 12:44:38 PM PST by BrooklynGOP
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To: madrussian
``Our terrorism against the United States is worthy of praise to deter the oppressor so that America stop its support for Israel, which is killing our children,'' the bearded, Saudi-born fugitive said.

So, will Dershowitz spin this one as not being "proof" that he wasn't involved in 9/11?

7 posted on 12/26/2001 12:44:43 PM PST by IMRight
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To: madrussian
``Our terrorism against the United States is worthy of praise to deter the oppressor so that America stop its support for Israel, which is killing our children,'' the bearded, Saudi-born fugitive said.

OBL has adopted the pro-Palestinian cause in the last year or two, just like Saddam uses it when it suits his purposes. This seems like same old, same old--except he's probably using the video to trigger another of his dormant cells.

8 posted on 12/26/2001 12:45:45 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: madrussian
NOW will Arabs continue to say he wasn't behind the 9/11 attacks? What more evidence do they want?

It is good news that OBL is claiming responsibility -- it will no longer be possible for anyone to avoid choosing sides.

10 posted on 12/26/2001 12:46:28 PM PST by VeritatisSplendor
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To: madrussian
Waiting for a spin of the Israel-firsters of their "it had nothing to do with Israel".

Let me guess, they'll say "are you gonna do what that terrorist Osama wants you to???"

So, because you obviously don't support Israel, you believe Osama was justified?

11 posted on 12/26/2001 12:47:29 PM PST by tbeatty
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To: madrussian
Are you drunk? Saddam claimed the same thing 6 months after he invaded Kuwait for crying out loud; but it was his claims were transparent. Its just a tactic to get the dumbed down Arab street riled up. The tape of Bin Laden at his buddies home, where he is in his own element, clearly shows this had nothing to with Isreal, because he never mentioned them.
12 posted on 12/26/2001 12:47:56 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: BrooklynGOP
Are you saying that Israel is universally disliked in the muslim world? Who'd have thought?

"Banned" is not the same as "not liked". Where do you think all those people waving his portrait went.

13 posted on 12/26/2001 12:48:12 PM PST by madrussian
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To: madrussian
it would have been a lot simpler and a lot of palestinian kids and american adults would still be alive if he'd focused on teaching palestinian kids not to throw rocks at men with guns. of course, cause and effect is a difficult concept for many arabs to grasp.
14 posted on 12/26/2001 12:48:24 PM PST by John Hines
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To: madrussian
``Our terrorism against the United States is worthy of praise to deter the oppressor so that America stop its support for Israel, which is killing our children,'' the bearded, Saudi-born fugitive said.

This tape is a hoax. Everybody knows Osama had nothing to do with the September 11th attacks, and even if he did America should just grow up and move on. </sarcasm>

15 posted on 12/26/2001 12:49:28 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: madrussian
Looks like he wants the same thing you want. As President Bush made clear, you're either with the USA or with the terrorists. Your loyalties are quite clear.
16 posted on 12/26/2001 12:49:50 PM PST by ambrose
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To: KC_Conspirator
A day (hour) in the life of Osama bin Laden. He never mentioned Israel that day (hour). Hence, he doesn't give a damn.

Post #9 for you. Are you blind? Or have you forgot? Or have you never heard?

17 posted on 12/26/2001 12:49:56 PM PST by madrussian
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To: madrussian
What is with him and the palestines , he never had anything to do with them before
18 posted on 12/26/2001 12:50:47 PM PST by classygreeneyedblonde
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To: ambrose
I am with America, and not with Middle Eastern thugs, be they Palestianian or Israelis.

You, however, are an un-American Israel-firster.

20 posted on 12/26/2001 12:52:21 PM PST by madrussian
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To: madrussian
Waiting for a spin of the Israel-firsters of their "it had nothing to do with Israel". Let me guess, they'll say "are you gonna do what that terrorist Osama wants you to???"

Hmmmm... does this mean it's OK for us to stay in Saudi Arabia and bomb Iraqis? What about all the other things he complained about?

His first video was "brilliant" in that it focused on "arab" issues, and ones that resonate with western lefites, like Iraq. His later videos are more expansive, including Timor. His home video shows wanting to convert the world to Islam, the "strong horse."

I think this is a "brilliant" strategy, the palestinianization of his cause. Will no doubt be used to "explain" what he is all about for the paranoid arabpropsters and lefties, ignoring all his other statements. Really, it's just selective propaganda and another showing that he has been "in tune" with the world media and aware of its workings since 911.

21 posted on 12/26/2001 12:53:37 PM PST by Shermy
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To: madrussian
Israel should nuke the palistinians. you blow up a bus with my women and children on it and i'd nuke you.
22 posted on 12/26/2001 12:53:42 PM PST by go star go
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To: The Spanish Inquisition
Yeah, and Hitler's biggest issues were those poor, persecuted ethnic Germans in the Suedetenland, and those nasty old reparations Germany got slapped with for starting World War I.

Use your head!

24 posted on 12/26/2001 12:54:22 PM PST by Clinton's a rapist
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
What is with him and the palestines , he never had anything to do with them before

A marriage of convenience, like Saddam Hussein. There have been rumors that some of the Palestinian terror groups trained with al Qaeda, and some of the groups that gave money to OBL/al Qaeda were also connected to some of the Palestinian groups.

25 posted on 12/26/2001 12:55:02 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: madrussian
How could you possibly call yourself a patriot when you side with Osama bin Laden over President Bush?
26 posted on 12/26/2001 12:55:24 PM PST by ambrose
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To: The Spanish Inquisition
Bin Laden is bugged because he is a very evil human being who needs to die. Bin Laden cannot blame others for the evil within himself.
27 posted on 12/26/2001 12:55:37 PM PST by go star go
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To: Restorer
Working well, isn't it?

LOL. Yep, hell of a plan there.

28 posted on 12/26/2001 12:56:08 PM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: madrussian
D*mn, now the dude is back on the idiot box and we cannot nuke Iraq.
Hope the tapes they found with British dude are about Saddam's WMD.
29 posted on 12/26/2001 12:56:16 PM PST by CommiesOut
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To: BrooklynGOP
Oh, please. He is just mitigating his damages. His group is already banned in all muslim states, and the only thing he can do to boost his image with them is to blame Israel. Funny how a year ago he made no mention of Israel.

Mitigating damages--great lawyer line! Remember how Saddam attacked Israel with Scuds? Where else in the world would two sides be at war, and one side by bombing a third party could be seen as undermining the resolve and cohesion of the opponent?

30 posted on 12/26/2001 12:56:34 PM PST by Shermy
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To: madrussian
You, however, are an un-American Israel-firster.

You are an un-American Osama-firster.

31 posted on 12/26/2001 12:56:58 PM PST by Alouette
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To: madrussian
Blaming Israel for Bin Laden is as legitimate as reparations for slavery.
32 posted on 12/26/2001 12:57:06 PM PST by JmyBryan
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To: madrussian
Let me guess, they'll say "are you gonna do what that terrorist Osama wants you to???"

It's a good question -- how would you answer it?

33 posted on 12/26/2001 12:57:07 PM PST by Logophile
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To: madrussian
Why do you WANT to believe Osama?
34 posted on 12/26/2001 12:58:10 PM PST by habs4ever
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To: madrussian
Waiting for a spin of the Israel-firsters of their "it had nothing to do with Israel".

How many videos has he made? How many have said this?

Bin Laden is a liar who will say anything.

But then, no one said it had nothing to do with Israel. Only you and your bigoted straw man argument says that.

35 posted on 12/26/2001 12:58:13 PM PST by tallhappy
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To: ambrose
Looks like he wants the same thing you want. As President Bush made clear, you're either with the USA or with the terrorists. Your loyalties are quite clear.

From experience with some of the posters on this thread, the accusations will start: Israeli Firster, Amen Corner, JDL operative, saving their most devastating mortar for last: the dreaded liberal label.

They're most predictable in their pro-Palestinian, anti-Israel, pro-bin Laden screeds.

36 posted on 12/26/2001 12:58:24 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: madrussian
Good Madrussian. Now you can act here as Bin Laden's prime stooge. He has given you the green light to say the USA must abandon Israel. And say it loud and often.

You carry Bin Laden's water at FreeRepublic. He would disagree with none of your posts except the ones railing at the bloody Jihad in Chechnya.

37 posted on 12/26/2001 12:58:45 PM PST by dennisw
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To: The Spanish Inquisition
Yet some people insist on playing amateur psychoanalyst and claiming that his motivation is something else. Go figure.

Because he says different things at different times, how about his Nov. 3 video adding Timor, Chechnya, Kashmir, etc. etc. He's a pretty good propagandist in his selectivity and timing. Will see what happens. I think certainly his disgust for any American presence in Saudi Arabia is the primary motivator of his rage.

38 posted on 12/26/2001 12:58:47 PM PST by Shermy
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When are the al Jaziri people going to be arrested and made to tell us how they obtain the videos.

It gets from bin Laden to them. Follow the chain.

39 posted on 12/26/2001 1:00:07 PM PST by tallhappy
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To: madrussian
You are awful excited just to find out that OBL is playing the world against Israel card. His crusade against 'Islam' jihad didn't rile the masses, let's see if the Palestinian issue will do better. . .
40 posted on 12/26/2001 1:00:21 PM PST by TheOtherOne
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To: Alouette
You are an un-American Osama-firster

I am truly amazed at how far they'll bend over for Osama bin Laden when OBL waves the anti-Israel flag under their noses.

41 posted on 12/26/2001 1:00:21 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: madrussian;Islamic_Violence
To find all articles tagged or indexed using Islamic_Violence

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42 posted on 12/26/2001 1:00:47 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: madrussian
Actually, bin Laden rarely made any statements against Israel prior to 9/11. He has repeatedly said he turned on the US after Desert Storm, and acts because of our military presence in Saudi Arabia. The anti-Israel statements came only when he needed support from other arabs because of impending US action.

Why would you assume he's telling the truth now?

43 posted on 12/26/2001 1:00:56 PM PST by sharktrager
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To: madrussian
Let me guess -- we "have to understand the underlying reasons," right?

Say it to my face, friend. :)

44 posted on 12/26/2001 1:01:04 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: madrussian
I say we get Bee Bee reelected in Israel, arm him with tactical nukes and let him clean up the terrorist scum.
45 posted on 12/26/2001 1:01:09 PM PST by go star go
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To: madrussian
Not trying to spin, but a question comes to mind. Is it possible he is pulling a "Saddam" by releasing this tape now?

Saddam wanted to draw the Arab world into the Gulf war by attacking Israel with scuds. The rationalle was that when Israel responded, the anger created in the Arab world would rally other militaries to his aid.

Since, we have not heard this spin before as a "primary" motivation, the timing is very interesting. The US military is having success in Afganistan, we are going "cave by cave" and attacking whatever infrastructure he built. Finally, other governments in the third world are "ratting out" his cronies. He lives with a huge bounty on his head, and his enemy is closing in.

Perhaps this is a sign of fear. If the rants become more frantic and come more often then IMHO we can be sure of it.

46 posted on 12/26/2001 1:01:29 PM PST by Nachum
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To: madrussian
You are speaking about propaganda tapes delivered to "Al Jazeera". The tape that was found in Kabul told a different story - one of an evil sick man who did not even mention Isreal.

His beef with the US began with them being stationed on Saudi soil, but to pull Isreal into this is just more Jew bashing. The only time anyone cares about the Palestinians is when they need to CYA for when they are murdering one another. As mentioned before, Saddam claimed the same thing when he invaded fellow muslim countries.

However, if you want to believe OBL, be my guest.

48 posted on 12/26/2001 1:02:37 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: madrussian
Let me guess, they'll say "are you gonna do what that terrorist Osama wants you to???"

Are you suggesting that we drop Israel because OBL demands it through terrorism???

Sounds like a yellow bellied frenchman's response.....

France to Israel/America:

Let us give you alittle advice, gleened from our own personnal experiences. It would be much easier and far less dangerous for you if you would disregard such emotions as protecting your families and country. Such emotions will cause you great harm and pain as it is much easier to see your land occupied, your liberties lost and your women raped than it is to die defending the same. Please let these emotions slip away and send up the white flag. Surrendering to your enemy is, in the long run, in your best interest. Take it from one who knows.....Never fight for what others say is right, for they are fools.....save "yourself" before it is to late.

49 posted on 12/26/2001 1:03:08 PM PST by is_is
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To: The Spanish Inquisition, madrussian
Fool! What bothers Bin Laden most is US military in Saudi Arabia. 

WHY? Because Bin Laden is a Saudi! And a madly religious one. His version of the Koran forbids infidels on Saudi soil. Duhhhhhhhhh...

50 posted on 12/26/2001 1:03:46 PM PST by dennisw
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