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FASTEN YOUR SEATBELTS: Hope you had a merry Christmas 'cause it's gonna be a Satanic new year
Antiwar.com ^ | December 31, 2001 | Justin Raimondo

Posted on 12/31/2001 1:51:39 AM PST by H.R. Gross

Behind the Headlines
by Justin Raimondo
Antiwar.com

December 31, 2001

FASTEN YOUR SEATBELTS
Hope you had a merry Christmas – 'cause it's gonna be a Satanic new year

My last New Year's column contained a statement that stands out, in retrospect, as a prediction and a warning that, unfortunately, went unheeded. America, I wrote,

"Stands astride the world, a global Gulliver lording it over the Lilliputians. But at the apogee of its power, the US is subject to the irony of world hegemony – increased vulnerability."

SOMETHING WICKED THIS WAY COMES

Little did I know how vulnerable. Like most Americans, I never imagined that, less than a year later, we would all be staring in disbelief at the smoking ruins of the Pentagon – and a good part of downtown Manhattan.  But I knew something was amiss: "In the coming year," I predicted, "the profiteers of empire will be especially busy selling the whole panoply of 'good works' the US is performing overseas," especially in "the Middle East, where we are ostensibly fighting another bogey of the modern world, 'terrorism.' Whether the American people are buying it is another question."

OVER THE HORIZON

Well, if they weren't buying it before, now they certainly are – and with a vengeance. As the US goes rampaging through Central Asia in search of Osama bin Laden and his Terrorist International, the War Party has been given a blank check – and they're diddling over how much to make it out for. But you didn't have to be a certified seer, a Nostradamus or a Jean Dixon, to see what was coming over the horizon. Reiterating the Clintonian record – a new military intervention every few months – I wrote:

"These days, the brazen belligerence of the US goes way beyond arrogance and all the way to hubris, the old Greek conception of a pride so overweening that it literally begs to be toppled, like Icarus felled for daring to approach the sun."

ICARUS UNREPENTANT

Yet Icarus hasn't learned his lesson. Still reaching for that bright orb, he doesn't realize he's been blinded. Lashing out, he stumbles about in the darkness, bellowing like a wounded giant, and wreaking devastation across the globe. Already the ripple effect caused by the US military campaign has caused disruption throughout the region, with India moving quickly to destabilize Pakistan. The nutball Hindu nationalists who hold sway in New Delhi have recently acquired a cache of new weapons from Israel – and don't think they won't use them.

A WARNING

India and Israel have a lot in common: not only a mutual hatred of Islam, but also an expressed willingness to use nuclear weapons. It was not for nothing, after all, that Israel recently admitted what it has always officially denied (even though everyone knew the story of Mordecai Vanunu): yes, they have nukes. But why admit this now, at the height of the crisis, unless it is meant as a warning that they won't hesitate to use them?

THE BRAHMIN BOMB

On the other side of the Middle East, New Delhi's Brahmins are wielding the nuclear stick more openly, explicitly threatening Pakistan with the unthinkable. At issue is the Vale of Kashmir, a section of Central Asia so mountainous and inaccessible that it makes the terrain of Afghanistan look like a golf course. India has always claimed it, in spite of its overwhelmingly Muslim population. If India allowed a real national referendum, Kashmir would doubtless go with Pakistan, but New Delhi's "Great Power" conceit would never permit that, and so the region has been in a constant state of war since the partition of India and Pakistan more than 50 years ago.

IMPERIAL INDIA

From this lair of Islamic "terrorism," various Islamic tribes and groups have launched attacks on India proper, and the Brahmins, asserting their regional hegemony, have decided to follow the good example of the United States in pursuing "terrorism" to its source. Since the Indians aver – without offering any proof – that the terrorist attacks have been organized and directed by Islamabad, and that these groups are little more than proxies for Pakistan, in effect a de facto state of war already exists between the two nuclear-armed nations. And the conflict is rapidly spreading….

THE RIPPLE EFFECT

The news that China has moved its troops up to the border with India should have hit the headlines like a thunderclap. The dominoes are falling fast, and even rippling outward to the edge of the world, where North Korea – starving, desperate, and demented – teeters on the brink. The "mystery ship" that invaded Japanese waters and was sunk by the Japanese Defense Force sent shockwaves through Japan, and globalized this perilous moment.

ON THE BRINK

Are we standing on the brink of World War III? It all depends on just how crazy are the Hindu nationalists who rule an increasingly bizarre and militant India. Perhaps not all of them are particular devotees of Kali, goddess of destruction – all I know is that Kali holds a central place in the Hindu pantheon, and she no doubt has lots of fans. Here, for example, is an Associated Press story detailing the mindset of the people of Jaisalmer, India, who live near the border with Pakistan, who are "aching for war":

"'Bring on another war, we are ready,' shouts Jagdish Prasad Vasa, a craggy shopkeeper who has lived through the three wars between India and Pakistan since independence from Britain in 1947. His war cries draw similar chants from the old turbaned men drinking sweet tea at the foot of the sandcastle-like fort.

"'The Jaisalmeris are warriors by nature, always on alert and never afraid to fight,' says Vasa, spitting out juice from his 'gutkha,' a concoction of tobacco, betel nut and spices. 'It's time to put Pakistan down, for good.'"

KALI CALLS

We've heard all this highfalutin' theorizing about how Islam, at least in its Wahabist incarnation, is the equivalent of "Islamo-fascism," but how much more explicit can you get than deifying the concept of Destruction? If I were the Pakistanis, I wouldn't rule out the distinct possibility of an Indian first strike – would you?

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1 posted on 12/31/2001 1:51:40 AM PST by H.R. Gross
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To: H.R. Gross
Previous discussion of same article...
2 posted on 12/31/2001 1:59:18 AM PST by Keith in Iowa
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To: H.R. Gross
"India and Israel have a lot in common: not only a mutual hatred of Islam..."

And Justin has something in common with Hitler; a pathological hatred of Jews.

3 posted on 12/31/2001 2:28:42 AM PST by KJMorgan
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To: H.R. Gross
Nothing to see here, move along. (Do they really use the same article over and over at antiwar.com, just move words around and change the author to make them look different?)

Now will come the standard "Why don't you address the points in the article?" If there was anything new, you might have a point, but this drivel has been addressed over and over again to the point that it is not worth the time or trouble. It is a one note band. They are cookie-cutter articles with nothing new.

4 posted on 12/31/2001 2:55:35 AM PST by beekeeper
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To: beekeeper
True. All I got from it was that (a) Justin "predicted" the U.S. would suffer from ... something, and (b) he thinks the Indians are belligerent with regard to Pakistan.

On point (a), he's been "predicting" this same thing for 20 years, and on point (b), I guess he's not yet fathomed that Pakistan is a dope-dealing, terrorist-cultivating, criminal enterprise of a country.

5 posted on 12/31/2001 3:24:03 AM PST by angkor
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To: tex-oma
No, Justin doesn't say he "hates jews". Instead he blames the Jews for the size of the US government, he blames the Jews for contributing to a war in Asia by "arming" India, and he blames the Jews for the "cancelling" New Years Eve celbrations. And that is just in this one article.

No, Justin hasn't stated he "hates jews". Instead, he criticizes the three countries, Israel, India, and the United States who are attempting to defend themselves against unprovoked attacks by Islamic terrorists.

No, Justin doesn't say he "hates jews. Justin only supports those who "hate jews".

8 posted on 12/31/2001 4:23:53 AM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: tex-oma
Do you have any reason to believe that India won't use it's nukes on Pakistan?

Not first strike, because the Indians are more sensible than the Pakistanis. However, they have had it with the terrorism being propagated by Pakistan, and they've been fully aware of the Islamist/Jihadist disease for much longer than we have.

From Munich 1972 to 9/11, the world has allowed the Islamist pestilence to operate with impunity. But that time is over, and the U.S., Israel, India, and others are now saying "enough is enough". I think everyone is clear that Pakistan - though its madrassas, its heroin economy, and its support of the Taliban (not to mention its earlier creation of BCCI) - is a huge source of jihadist suppport. It is the nexus of Islamist evil. A rogue state, and a vast criminal enterprise.

10 posted on 12/31/2001 4:37:30 AM PST by angkor
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To: tex-oma
"Really? Deal in FACTS. Let's see some quotes. You're fevered imagination is WAY less than convincing."

Go read the article.

11 posted on 12/31/2001 4:39:02 AM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: DugwayDuke
I read the article. Can you tell me how anything in it equates to 'hating' Jews, or support for those who 'hate Jews'?
12 posted on 12/31/2001 4:48:06 AM PST by Le-Roy
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To: Le-Roy
I clearly stated that Justin did not say he "hated jews". Are you denying that Justin criticized India, Israel, and the United States for defending themselves against Islamic Terrorists? Are you denying that Justin accused the Israelis of arming India? Have you followed the links that Justin provided? For example, the one blaming India for the problems in Kasmir (The Vale of Kasmir)? Are you denying that Justin blames the size of the US government on the "war party", the party that uses war as the excuse for expanding the size of the US government? Are you denying that Justin accused Israel and India of "hating Islaam"?

No, Justin doesn't say he "hates jews". No, instead, he blames the Israel lobby, the Amen Corner, Israel, India, and US middle eastern policies for bringing the world to the brink of WWIII. No, that's entirely different from saying he "hates jews".

13 posted on 12/31/2001 5:14:09 AM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: Orual; aculeus; BlueLancer; jjbrouwer; MadIvan; DugwayDuke; Sabertooth; beekeeper; Thinkin' Gal...
RAIMONDO FLOGS NEW HOBBYHORSE
India his villain since yesterday evening, but Israel not off the hook

Behind India's War Hysteria: Domestic Scandal

MILITANT HINDUS ASSAULT CHRISTIANS

PERVASIVE PERSECUTION OF CHRISTIANS IN INDIA

14 posted on 12/31/2001 5:44:25 AM PST by dighton
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To: dighton
There's room for both India and Israel in my doghouse. LOL!

It's strange, but I never did think India, of all countries, had an Amen Corner in the US. But, hey, whatever turns you on, dude....

I guess repressing Christianity is something you approve of, eh?

15 posted on 12/31/2001 5:51:15 AM PST by Justin Raimondo
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To: dighton

No matter how hard you flog it, it doesn't go anywhere.

16 posted on 12/31/2001 5:57:40 AM PST by Orual
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To: DugwayDuke
It wasn't me who "accused" Israel of arming India: it was the news stories that reported the arms deal between those two countries.

I do, indeed, say that war increases the size and power of the federal government. But, then again, that seems pretty obvious, now doesn't it? Either that, or else the mis-named "Patriot Act" just an LSD flashback and the federalization of the airports is just an anomaly.

But I fail to see what all this nonsense about "hating Jews" has to do with anything I wrote in this column. I think you must be on the wrong thread. And, yes, India certainly is to blame for the Kashmir conflict. They promised to hold a national plebiscite in Kashmir way back in 1948, and (somehow) still haven't gotten around to holding it. Golly gee, I wonder why.

17 posted on 12/31/2001 6:00:07 AM PST by Justin Raimondo
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To: Orual; Hedgehog
I guess repressing Christianity is something you approve of, eh?

Damn, Raimondo outed me! Lemme at those Christians!

He also said "Amen Corner" for the ten thousandth time this year, further tightening his stranglehold on a Guinness entry.

18 posted on 12/31/2001 6:09:15 AM PST by dighton
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To: Justin Raimondo
"But I fail to see what all this nonsense about "hating Jews" has to do with anything I wrote in this column. I think you must be on the wrong thread."

And, I fail to see where I've accused you of "hating jews"? Just my opinion, but it seems to me that the only thing you "hate" are countries that "oppress" muslims, support Israel, and respond to cross-border attacks on innocent civilians by Islamic terrorists. Oh, I know you "hate" a lot of other things, but it just seems to me that these are the only things you "hate" enough to write about. Opps, almost forgot, you hate the "war party" too, but, then, that party is a staunch supporter of Israel so I guess that been covered already. But, no, you don't "hate jews".

19 posted on 12/31/2001 6:20:28 AM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: DugwayDuke
Well said - we need to be alert with this creeps - creeps as in sneaky and lurking in the dark, filthy crevices of Islamic extermism.
20 posted on 12/31/2001 6:21:27 AM PST by mikeIII
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To: H.R. Gross
The title led me to believe this was going to be a Harry Potter thread.
21 posted on 12/31/2001 6:22:38 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: DugwayDuke
I wasn't aware that India had become the second Jewish state. Thanks for enlightening us. India, it seems, is an equal opportunity oppressor: not just Muslims, but also Christians are in their crosshairs. Do you approve of that? How about the nukes that India is aiming at Pakistan -- where American troops are now stationed? Does that bother you at all? I guess not....
22 posted on 12/31/2001 6:26:02 AM PST by Justin Raimondo
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To: mikeIII
Hmmmmm.... Howsa 'bout this for the slogan of India's Amen Corner: "Extermism in defense of exterminationism is no vice"? God, mike, but you're brilliant.
23 posted on 12/31/2001 6:28:38 AM PST by Justin Raimondo
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To: tex-oma
Really? Has Justin ever said he hates Jews, or did you just feel like decorating this thread with unsubstantiated race-baiting?

C'mon, we knew it was coming. I immediately after reading that WHOLE article knew that the central point would be the old race baiting anti semite crowd would join in, and sure enough. Give it a minute or two and they will all show up with the same mantra.

25 posted on 12/31/2001 6:31:36 AM PST by DreamWeaver
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To: Justin Raimondo
India, it seems, is an equal opportunity oppressor: not just Muslims, but also Christians are in their crosshairs. Do you approve of that?

As if you really care whether Christians are attacked. Still shooting feckless little darts from your hyperbole bow, I see.

26 posted on 12/31/2001 6:32:49 AM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: Justin Raimondo
But I fail to see what all this nonsense about "hating Jews" has to do with anything I wrote in this column.

Neither did any sensible rational people here. However, I knew it was coming, and sure enough. Boy I could really make a fortune if I bet my money on them showing up each time and using the same old mantra.

27 posted on 12/31/2001 6:36:53 AM PST by DreamWeaver
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To: H.R. Gross
Don't you ever get tired of doing the Muslims propaganda work for them.
28 posted on 12/31/2001 6:38:30 AM PST by weikel
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To: dighton
The Amen Corner (no, not Baldwin's)

Par is a good score here.

31 posted on 12/31/2001 6:40:37 AM PST by Orual
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To: dighton
He also said "Amen Corner" for the ten thousandth time this year, further tightening his stranglehold on a Guinness entry.

I claim the record for most visits to a 'Raimondo' thread without ever -- not once -- reading his column.

32 posted on 12/31/2001 6:46:48 AM PST by aculeus
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To: aculeus
Weren't you the presidential candidate of the Know Nothing Party? Or is this you:

http://onlinedictionary.datasegment.com/word/Aculeus/

"Aculeus \A*cu"le*us\ (&?;), n.; pl. Aculei (&?;). [L., dim. of acus needle.] 1. (Bot.) A prickle growing on the bark, as in some brambles and roses. --Lindley."

In other words, you're a prick, albeit a very small one....

33 posted on 12/31/2001 7:05:08 AM PST by Justin Raimondo
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To: H.R. Gross
it's gonna be a Satanic new year

Wow. Did Justine visit the New Spotlite with its "Synagogue of Satan" department? Or is he just hoping that he'l get the incantation right this year?

Why is it that Free Republic has become such a sewer containing the increasingly manic insanity pouring from antiwar.com?

34 posted on 12/31/2001 7:11:48 AM PST by Cachelot
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To: Justin Raimondo
"I wasn't aware that India had become the second Jewish state. Thanks for enlightening us. India, it seems, is an equal opportunity oppressor: not just Muslims, but also Christians are in their crosshairs. Do you approve of that? How about the nukes that India is aiming at Pakistan -- where American troops are now stationed? Does that bother you at all? I guess not...."

I don't believe I, or anyone else, has claimed India is a "Jewish state". I've only pointed out that your the one who has tried to link Israel and India. And, no, I don't think that an attempt to blame Israel as contributing to a possible WWIII means you "hate Jews".

I also find it interesting that your link about "nutball Hindu nationalists" oppressing Christians takes you to a Sikh national separtist site advertising a book "Soft Target" that alledges that Indian intelligence brought down an Air India jetliner in 1985 just so they could blame it on Sikh nationalists. But, no, I don't think your reliance upon nutball Sikh separtist sites means you "hate Hindus" either.

What bothers me about the nuclear situation in Pakistan and India is the refusal of some to take actions against those who find it convienient to launch cross-border attacks against innocent civilians. Pakistan must learn, as did Afghanistan, that one refuses to act against terrorists at their own peril. I am bothered by those who blame countries who are victims of cross-border terrorism for defending their own civilians rather than blame the country that allows itself to be used as a base for terrorism. I am bothered by those who use suspect sites such as the "Council for Kalistan" to make unfounded accusations against those who would defend their own citizens. Just how many terrorist attacks have been launched by Sikh separtists in India?

35 posted on 12/31/2001 7:24:10 AM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: H.R. Gross
Yet Icarus hasn't learned his lesson. Still reaching for that bright orb, he doesn't realize he's been blinded. Lashing out, he stumbles about in the darkness, bellowing like a wounded giant, and wreaking devastation across the globe.

What in your opinion should America do about Sept 11? Nothing? Lob a few cruise missiles at a cave in Afghanistan and call it a day? That would be Bill Clinton's choice and the authors apparently. hmmmm

Already the ripple effect caused by the US military campaign has caused disruption throughout the region, with India moving quickly to destabilize Pakistan. The nutball Hindu nationalists who hold sway in New Delhi have recently acquired a cache of new weapons from Israel and don't think they won't use them.

India and Pakistan have been at each others throats for quite a while with no help from us. I think its disingenuous to blame that conflict on the US. Islamic terrorists from Pakistan attack the Indian parliament and the author blames India for destabilizing Pakistan??? That is just too funny! If the freely elected government of India has acquired weapons from the freely elected government of Israel for defense against the Islamic military dictatorship of Pakistan who encouraged the recent terror attack on the Indian parliament I think its great and I hope they smash the murdering muslim fanatics who would destroy their freedom.

We've heard all this highfalutin' theorizing about how Islam, at least in its Wahabist incarnation, is the equivalent of "Islamo-fascism," but how much more explicit can you get than deifying the concept of Destruction? If I were the Pakistanis, I wouldn't rule out the distinct possibility of an Indian first strike would you?

I wouldn't either, what of it? We would do the same thing if Canada or Mexico launched terror attacks against the US Congress, the people of India have the right of self defense just like we do.

36 posted on 12/31/2001 7:25:15 AM PST by Walkin Man
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To: Justin Raimondo
There's room for both India and Israel in my doghouse. LOL!

You left out the USA - which you also seem to have a problem with. What is about freely elected democratic governments that bother you so much exactly?

Satanic new year? Isn't that a bit hysterical and hyperbolic?

And how is it that you believe the Muslims in Pakistan have a right to a state, but not Jews in Israel?

37 posted on 12/31/2001 7:27:25 AM PST by veronica
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To: tex-oma
Hey, BTW, when did you become a rah-rah boy for Justin Raimondo? Did you bring your poms-poms?
38 posted on 12/31/2001 7:29:24 AM PST by veronica
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To: DugwayDuke
Did you ever see the article Raimondo wrote where he lamented America's victory over the Japanese in WWII? His thinking was that if only America could have been defeated, we would all be drinking green tea and acting civilized like they did in the wonderful Japanese empire.

He never let us in on who he wished prevailed in the European theater, but I'll bet you can guess.

39 posted on 12/31/2001 7:37:12 AM PST by dead
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To: aculeus
I claim the record for most visits to a 'Raimondo' thread without ever -- not once -- reading his column.

LOL Don't slow down, several others are in hot pursuit of your record.

41 posted on 12/31/2001 7:40:15 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: Justin Raimondo
It's going to be a year of fire, 5762 that is...

THE MAN IN THE BOX

by Rabbi Baruch Melman

Adam was placed in the Garden by G*d (Gen 2:8- last week's sedra) whereas Avraham (Avram) was directed by G*d to go to a place where He will show him (Gen 12:1- next week's sedra). Noah was asked to chart a middle ground. Whereas with Adam G*d directly placed him where he wanted him, and whereas with Avraham (Avram), it was Avraham who was the active determining agent in causing his arrival where G*d wanted him, with regard to Noah, G*d played an indirect, yet active role in guiding his destiny. Lech lecha, G*d's command to Avraham, then, could be read as G*d telling him to take charge directly of his sojourn. Each central character in the developing story of mankind represents a greater striving for independence and autonomy on the part of mankind vis a vis its Creator.

The text makes pointed reference that Noah was not the captain of his ship, for indeed their was no ship. It was not even a boat. The Hebrew term used for the flotation device is teva -tawf, vet, hey. Teva, literally meaning "box," is a storage receptacle. The English word "tub" quite possibly derives from the Hebrew, as they share the same root letters. According to its blueprint it was built in a rectangular shape, with squared edges and a flat bottom, not like a boat which is designed with the rounded, curved features more useful for navigation. A boat, by design and practice, more readily belongs in the water. A tub, by contrast, more readily belongs on the earth. A man-made mikva must be a tub built into the ground, halakhically. It cannot be a portable spa. The mikva, like the Torah itself, cannot be made impure through contact with that which is ritually impure. Whether we immerse inert vessels (kelim) or living humans, the grounded tub serves as a vehicle for cleansing and salvation.

Noah's ark, then, was built as a receptacle for the salvation of the remnant of all living things, as a refuge from the violence (hamas) which consumed all the earth. The terminology of implicit groundedness by the pointed use of the word teva indicates also G*d's inclination that the ark NOT be used. Rather, it implies that G*d's deepest wishes were for mankind to do teshuva and to pull back from the brink of destruction. In other words, were the ark to have in its design a bias for floating, it would indicate G*d's predetermination to bring on the flood. Because of its design bias for groundedness on the earth, it indicates G*d's preference for mankind's teshuva and healing.

Not being a ship, then, there was no steering mechanism, no rudder, no navigational controls or source of power other than the Divine guidance system. Noah built the box, but G*d steered it. To counteract the feeling of helplessness that Noah must have felt, a skylight was built into the roof to let him feel connected to Heaven even if he couldn't see it for the rain. It was a symbol of hope, of tikva, that the whole earth had become now one mikva, one giant pool of water, consisting of forty (time) units of rain, paralleling the mikva's forty units of volume (seah). The Talmud tells us that the volume of a mikvah is also the volume which could contain 5760 (chicken) eggs. With the spillover of violence with the the New Year 5761, the waters of the mikva are now overflowing, threatening a new flood over all the earth. Not a flood of water which G*d promised would never reoccur, but a flood of fire.

As Adam was ten generations from Noah, who was ten generations from Avraham, mankind needs to incorporate the peace blueprint of the Ten Commandments for her survival. Mankind is ever moving to greater independence, greater autonomy, incorporating G*d's will as its own will, but out of choice rather than coercion. Teshuva exists. Teshuva literally means to return, to come back from the abyss. Noah's generation chose to ignore it. We must learn not to repeat their error.

As Noah looked through the skylight, trusting that all will be good in the end, so too, we must look heavenward and trust in the same.

Shabbat Shalom. Good Shabbos.

THE MAN IN THE BOX

"As the navel is set in the centre of the human body,
so is the land of Israel the navel of the world...
situated in the centre of the world,
and Jerusalem in the centre of the land of Israel,
and the sanctuary in the centre of Jerusalem,
and the holy place in the centre of the sanctuary,
and the ark in the centre of the holy place,
and the foundation stone before the holy place,
because from it the world was founded."

Midrash Tanchuma, Qedoshim.

www.templemount.org

The waters of the mikva spilled over on Rosh HaShana 5761. It started on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, and it will engulf the world.

Matthew 24:37 But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.

43 posted on 12/31/2001 7:46:42 AM PST by Jeremiah Jr
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To: dead; DugwayDuke
Did you ever see the article Raimondo wrote where he lamented America's victory over the Japanese in WWII?

I bump that piece of trash every now and then, lest anyone take raimondo's America First act seriously.

44 posted on 12/31/2001 7:59:19 AM PST by dighton
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To: dighton
Thanks for the link! I had forgotten the title of that little ditty. It really illustrates so much of Raimondo’s mindset:

It's at times like these that I tend to believe the wrong side won the war in the Pacific. Just think: if we all woke up one day living in some alternate history, as in Phillip K. Dick's The Man in the High Castle, our cultural malaise would disappear overnight. Instead of listening to the latest loutish lyrics of Eminem, American teenagers would be contemplating the subtle beauty of the Japanese tea ceremony. If contemporary Japan is any clue, the crime rate would be cut by 95 percent, and the literacy rate would skyrocket. Certainly everyone's manners would improve. All in all, life would be far more civilized, imbued with a gentility that would make the New York Post an impossibility.

What a historically illiterate idiot.

45 posted on 12/31/2001 8:08:42 AM PST by dead
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To: tex-oma
So that's why you suddenly don't like India? Because India is an ally of Israel? LMAO.
46 posted on 12/31/2001 8:10:24 AM PST by veronica
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To: tex-oma
You suddenly care about our soldiers? When did that happen omar? In the last three minutes or something? LOL. Pakistan has nukes, and may be harbouring Osama, too. Typical that you would defend those who may be harbouring terrorists. And don't be defensive about being a Raimondo-ette. Every band needs it's boys.
48 posted on 12/31/2001 8:17:33 AM PST by veronica
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To: dighton, dead,
It's amazing how humorless you people are. But crazed fanatics aren't generally known for their ability to chuckle. Dighton, you need to lighten up: and, dead -- I can see why you chose your screen name.
49 posted on 12/31/2001 8:19:32 AM PST by Justin Raimondo
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