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Clinton Should Focus on Others, Not Himself
Virginian Pilot ^ | 12-31-01 | Editorial Staff

Posted on 12/31/2001 1:43:29 PM PST by LiberteeBell

Pity poor Bill Clinton. While the rest of the country is worried about the war on terrorism, he's agonizing over -- surprise! -- his own legacy.

Seems that Clinton gathered a bunch of former aides and Cabinet secretaries to his New York office last week out of concern that his accomplishments as president have slipped from memory. They agreed to organize a corps of supporters to talk up his achievements and keep his profile from disappearing.

``We have to remind people of what we did on the economy, what we did with the crime bill, what we did with terrorism,'' one Clinton adviser told the New York Times. ``They're trying to pin the bin Laden thing on us.''

It's not unreasonable to muster one pang of sympathy -- just one -- for the ex-president. Even in the best of Clinton days (before the Lewinsky escapade), his strengths -- such as balancing the budget to help point the economy upward -- went unrecognized by his frothing opponents.

But Clinton's time as president is over. His latest scheme showcases perhaps Clinton's fatal flaw -- his boundless, blinding love of himself.

Better he should take a cue from the last Southern Democratic president, Jimmy Carter. In the two decades since he left office, Carter established a foundation in Atlanta promoting peace and democracy worldwide. If he isn't building houses for Habitat for Humanity, he's monitoring elections in Guyana or Indonesia.

Clinton could do the same, devoting himself to one of the issues he embraced during his presidency -- perhaps racial reconciliation or national service. Aside from improving the world, Carter's post-presidential service has transformed his image from failed president to wise elder statesman. If Clinton looked beyond himself for a change, he might be able to do the same.


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When the left-wing Virginian Pravda Pile-o-S*** Pilot sorta "gets it", it makes me think there may be hope for the sheeple....
1 posted on 12/31/2001 1:43:30 PM PST by LiberteeBell
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To: LiberteeBell
Did somebody mention, The Clinton Legacy?:


2 posted on 12/31/2001 1:48:01 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: Slyfox
It has been said that Clinton is amoral not immoral. That there are certain traits missing from his personality make-up: a sociopath. He does not get embarassed and he truly cannot separate right from wrong. It's why he can lie under oath since he does not think he's lying.

In this sense, he's a scary guy.

3 posted on 12/31/2001 1:55:17 PM PST by holman
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To: LiberteeBell
If he isn't building houses for Habitat for Humanity, he's monitoring elections in Guyana or Indonesia.

Clinton could do the same, devoting himself to one of the issues he embraced during his presidency.

Good golly, I hope not. Monitoring elections? By Bill? And his friend Jesse Jackson? No thank you. The only thing he's embraced are chicks half his age.

4 posted on 12/31/2001 1:55:31 PM PST by pray4liberty
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To: LiberteeBell
Great editorial - too bad they didn't see him for what he was in 92! It was clear to me he was a shameless phony! Keyword here is PHONY! One didn't have to scratch very low to see what kind of character this man had in 92. I'm still angry and amazed that he was even elected the first time, much less the 2nd time. This paper probably endorsed him for both elections! Their little blurb of an excuse is nothing more than covering their butts. EVERYONE knew Clinton had NO CHARACTER in 92 - it was an issue that the media and Democrats dismissed!
5 posted on 12/31/2001 1:59:28 PM PST by Alissa
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To: Slyfox
his strengths -- such as balancing the budget

As I recall, Clinton was forcasting deficits as far as the eye could see until the Pubbies took over. The balanced budget was not only not Clinton's thing, it was fought tooth and nail like welfare reform. On crime there never were 100,000 cops and much of the "reduction of crime" was a result of a change in the way crime statistics were "processed". So actually when you strip away all the fluff, it is obvious that the "Clinton Legacy" is currently getting all the attention it has earned or deserves.

6 posted on 12/31/2001 1:59:55 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: LiberteeBell
But Clinton's time as president is over. His latest scheme showcases perhaps Clinton's fatal flaw -- his boundless, blinding love of himself.

The truth of the matter is Bill,NO ONE CARES WHAT YOU THINK OR FEEL!!GO FAR AWAY AND TAKE THAT PIG WIFE OF YOURS WITH YOU!!

Im sorry,lost control there,wont happen again,keep reminding myself W's the prez..........(Felt good,though!)

7 posted on 12/31/2001 2:02:08 PM PST by cardinal4
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To: LiberteeBell
If Clinton looked beyond himself for a change, he might be able to do the same.
This sentence is simply unintelligible. No matter how many times I read it, I still can't make sense of it.
8 posted on 12/31/2001 2:03:20 PM PST by Asclepius
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To: Slyfox
Are you certain you got 'em all? LOL!
9 posted on 12/31/2001 2:03:28 PM PST by LiberteeBell
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To: Slyfox
You forgot breathing honest peoples air.
10 posted on 12/31/2001 2:03:32 PM PST by cardinal4
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To: pray4liberty
Monitoring elections? By Bill?

You do have a point but perhaps if he'd monitor elections in some third world country, he and his DNC operatives wouldn't be available to monitor control elections here.

11 posted on 12/31/2001 2:06:06 PM PST by LiberteeBell
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To: LiberteeBell
I agree Clinton should say nothing and all those who seemed dedicated blaming the events on 9/11 on him should also say nothing. He has been out of office for nearly a year now and it is time for his enemies to get a life. However, as long as his enemies are obsessed with their hatreds and have a rather wanton disreguard for the truth we can hardly blame Clinton for defending himself against the frequent, false and vicious attacks about him, his family, and his administrtation.
12 posted on 12/31/2001 2:06:13 PM PST by Nightstalker
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To: LiberteeBell
Clinton Should Focus on Others, Not Himself

Yeah, and the Sun should rise in the West to ring in the new year. Clinton is incapable of focusing on others, except in order to use them to advance himself. Suggesting that he do so is to suggest that he completely abandon his core being.

Not a bad idea, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

13 posted on 12/31/2001 2:08:02 PM PST by gridlock
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To: LiberteeBell
George Will said it best: Clinton may not have been the worst President..but he sas the worst person to be the President.
14 posted on 12/31/2001 2:08:03 PM PST by sanjacjake
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To: LiberteeBell
#@#!@$###@@@!!

Is anyone else infuriated by the fact that some Clinton stooge could refer to the slaughter of thousands of people and the billions of dollars in damage done as "...the bin Laden thing..."??

I truly hope that there is a special place in Hell for people like this...

15 posted on 12/31/2001 2:08:23 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: Alissa
This paper probably endorsed him for both elections!

No doubt. They rarely miss an opportunity to endorse a dim, no matter how corrupt or unqualified.

16 posted on 12/31/2001 2:08:58 PM PST by LiberteeBell
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To: LiberteeBell
``We have to remind people of what we did on the economy,...."

How about what Clinton did on the Oval Office carpet? Or in the White House sink? Or, how about the collective stain he has left on this country, and humanity in general?

17 posted on 12/31/2001 2:09:50 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: LiberteeBell
Did anybody catch the latest Public Service commercial starring (I'm not kidding)---Bob Dole and Bill Clinton doing some ad about helping disadvantaged kids, or what-have-ya?

It's so hokey and melodramatic, the videography makes it look like an ad for a feminine hygeine product, or for life insurance for old people. (Close ups of the washed-up old coots with "pensive" and "thoughtful" expressions).

If the ad would have been about why we should outlaw Viagra, it would have been VERY effective. LOL

18 posted on 12/31/2001 2:10:32 PM PST by SerpentDove
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To: Nightstalker
However, as long as his enemies are obsessed with their hatreds and have a rather wanton disreguard for the truth we can hardly blame Clinton for defending himself against the frequent, false and vicious attacks about him, his family, and his administrtation.
Here's a blast from the past, eh what? It's that old but not forgotten "it's not Clinton's fault for behaving stupidly or embarrassingly, it's his enemies fault for forcing him to behave stupidly and embarrassingly."

The classics never go out of style.
19 posted on 12/31/2001 2:11:09 PM PST by Asclepius
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To: Nightstalker
Thank you Nightstalker. The scales have fallen from my eyes and I now see that Bill Clinton was not a bad man, he was just misunderstood. Well, now that I see how unfairly he has been victimized, I will surely mend my ways and let him go in peace, and wish him well in any future endeavor.
20 posted on 12/31/2001 2:11:23 PM PST by gridlock
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To: Nightstalker
I agree Clinton should say nothing and all those who seemed dedicated blaming the events on 9/11 on him should also say nothing. He has been out of office for nearly a year now and it is time for his enemies to get a life. However, as long as his enemies are obsessed with their hatreds and have a rather wanton disreguard for the truth we can hardly blame Clinton for defending himself against the frequent, false and vicious attacks about him, his family, and his administrtation.

Certainly too many people spend too much of their time hating clinton, but that doesn't require any disreguard for the truth. There's simply too much well documented information on clinton -- his felonies, including perjury, obstruction of justice, witness tampering and rape -- to need to fabricate anything.

No -- the only people who had any disregard for the truth were the Clinton apologist.

21 posted on 12/31/2001 2:11:59 PM PST by Smedley
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To: Asclepius
If Clinton looked beyond himself for a change, he might be able to do the same [become a "wise" elder statesman as Carter has done].

That help?

22 posted on 12/31/2001 2:12:42 PM PST by LiberteeBell
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To: holman
It's why he can lie under oath since he does not think he's lying.

If he does not think he is lying then he is not. Lying is knowingly providing a false information. If you believe what you are saying is true then you are not lying you or only mistaken.

Okay so I'm being semantically trivial.

23 posted on 12/31/2001 2:13:11 PM PST by Nightstalker
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To: Slyfox
All these charges may be true, but don't forget that our esteemed US Senate deemed that none met the level of impeachable offense. So remember how your senator voted so that you can cast your vote accordingly the next time the clown runs for election.
24 posted on 12/31/2001 2:13:35 PM PST by Scipio
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To: Nightstalker
>>However, as long as his enemies are obsessed with their hatreds and have a rather wanton disreguard for the truth we can hardly blame Clinton for defending himself against the frequent, false and vicious attacks about him, his family, and his administrtation.<<

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25 posted on 12/31/2001 2:15:11 PM PST by SerpentDove
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To: Slyfox
You forgot his most damnable offense. The one that really irks conservatives. The only one that matters to Republicans. He WON TWO ELECTIONS. Truth be told that is the real reason he is so hated.
26 posted on 12/31/2001 2:16:52 PM PST by Nightstalker
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To: LiberteeBell
That help?
Thank you, but no. My problem is simply a failure of the imagination: I cannot imagine Clinton looking ... [gasp] ... beyond himself.

... it was difficult for me to even type it out.
27 posted on 12/31/2001 2:17:38 PM PST by Asclepius
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To: holman
there are certain traits missing from his personality make-up: a sociopath

Three or so years back I posted a list of sociopathic traits here on FR. I inferred that BOTH Bill and Hillary made a perfect sociopathic couple. I wish you could've seen my finger as I hit the enter button. I did it with fear and trepidation. A number of people thought I was crazy and stupid, because I happened to use the word psychopath. But, there were some people who got it back then.

Traits of a Psychopath:

I made a list of each trait that Bill has and then made another list of traits that Hillary has. Each of them are missing four traits from the list BUT they are not missing the same traits.

Conclusion: Bill and Hillary are a perfect psychpathic couple.

28 posted on 12/31/2001 2:17:58 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: Nightstalker

29 posted on 12/31/2001 2:18:34 PM PST by SerpentDove
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To: LiberteeBell
Clinton could do the same, devoting himself to one of the issues he embraced during his presidency -- perhaps racial reconciliation or national service. Aside from improving the world, Carter's post-presidential service has transformed his image from failed president to wise elder statesman. If Clinton looked beyond himself for a change, he might be able to do the same.

This author needs to get his/her head out of his/her butt. Clinton has done nothing but divide the country since he first disgraced the national stage. I get so sick and tired of these people who give so much moral credit to that couple. They are rotten to the core, they think of no one unless that person can benefit them in some way, they would mow down anyone who gets in their way, they only voice support for an issue so as to get votes, and they are low-class white trash.

As far as I am concerned, the Clintons have only two redeeming qualities; 1) they are not immortal and, 2) they don't live near me.

30 posted on 12/31/2001 2:18:41 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Scipio
don't forget that our esteemed US Senate deemed that none met the level of impeachable offense

Yep, they preferred to keep there head in the sand and not look honestly at the truth. My senators both voted to convict.
If they hadn't, I'da been on their case like white on rice.

31 posted on 12/31/2001 2:20:56 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: SerpentDove
You mean that nobody has said anything negative about Clinton since he left office. I guess Barbara Olson didn't write a book. I guess nobody has suggested that Clinton was responsible for the events of 9/11. I guess Rush never mentioned anything about Clinton.

You must be the only person in the world who hasn't seen anything negative printed about Clinton since he left office.

32 posted on 12/31/2001 2:21:34 PM PST by Nightstalker
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To: Paul Atreides
``We have to remind people of what we did on the economy,...."

Yes, and as we learn more, Clinton sold the US out to maintain good economics so his minions could praise his administration to the highest terms - now we're paying in blood for his "good economic" times. This man is shameless and the American people who voted for him are blind, and the media that couldn't get beyond their bias deserves all our wrath!

33 posted on 12/31/2001 2:21:38 PM PST by Alissa
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To: Nightstalker
Actually, Nightstalker part of the reason, a big part, is why a family member spent weeks picking body parts out of the site where the WTC used to stand. Bubba did nothing about OBL or his sociopathic brotherhood for 8 years. As far as I'm concerned Bubba's legacy is now lying at the bottom of a scene of horrific and heatbreaking carnage.
34 posted on 12/31/2001 2:25:41 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: Nightstalker
vicious attacks about him, his family, and his administrtation.

What about the vicious attack on Jaunita Brodderick?Or that vicious strain of the Arkansas flu?How about those vicious IRS audits on those who opposed the Royal,er,First Family. And one more for the road; how about those vicious Puerto Rican terrorists,and armored car robbers clinton pardoned?

35 posted on 12/31/2001 2:25:50 PM PST by cardinal4
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To: mewzilla
That should read "heartbreaking".
36 posted on 12/31/2001 2:27:46 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: Nightstalker
However, as long as his enemies are obsessed with their hatreds and have a rather wanton disreguard for the truth

I think the real shame is that HIS SUPPORTERS have a "wanton disregard for the truth!"

That is truely a hillarious comment you made - I hope it was in jest!

37 posted on 12/31/2001 2:27:47 PM PST by Alissa
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To: LiberteeBell
Clinton Should Focus on Others, Not Himself

My cat should become a bird doctor.

38 posted on 12/31/2001 2:28:24 PM PST by dighton
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To: Asclepius
Duh! Sorry for taking it so literally!
39 posted on 12/31/2001 2:30:24 PM PST by LiberteeBell
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To: Nightstalker
You must be the only person in the world who hasn't seen anything negative printed about Clinton since he left office.

Oh, come now. You won't convince anyone here that Clinton has been treated harshly by the press. I see your contempt for Rush showed through as well. I estimate that anyone who spoke the terrible truth about the Clintons made you angry also.

Read the list of crimes attributed to the Clintons above again. Then count to ten. Then ask yourself why you are defending these people?

Luke 12:57 - "Why don't you judge for yourselves what is right?

40 posted on 12/31/2001 2:30:38 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Nightstalker
>>You must be the only person in the world who hasn't seen anything negative printed about Clinton since he left office.<<

Alas, you miscalculate, O enlightened one. MUCH truth has been said about the Lying-and-Perjuring-Pervert-In-Chief.

I am laughing at you, personally, for being so dimwitted as to not realize the truth, and instead, to grasp at lies.

I honestly thought that all but the most blithering of idiots dismissed Bill Clinton for the lowlife, dishonest loser he is LONG ago.

Turns out, I was right.

41 posted on 12/31/2001 2:31:08 PM PST by SerpentDove
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To: Paul Atreides
As far as I am concerned, the Clintons have only two redeeming qualities; 1) they are not immortal and, 2) they don't live near me.

Sadly,he lives close to my New York friends.There was a poster here who actually lived in Chappequa;he used to "Report from Chappequa".I dont what happened to him.But I always wanted to ask him,but never did,When the toon jogged down to the Dunkin Donuts in town,did he pay for the coffee?He never did at the Mcdonalds he used to jog to as president,that fell to the junior USSS agent,fresh from Beltsville.

42 posted on 12/31/2001 2:31:23 PM PST by cardinal4
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To: Nightstalker
Did you REALLY read the entire list? I don't think anyone is upset that he won twice, it's what he did with the job once he got it. Bill Clinton is the only person who took the Oath of Office who was not grateful for the sacred office he was handed by the people. Read his first inaugural speech. Everything is "I".

Clinton wanted us to think about tomorrow, while he was having a girl his daughter's age perform a sex act on his bent member. Quite a visual don't you think?

43 posted on 12/31/2001 2:32:54 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: SerpentDove
Re#25

Heh,heh,that was pretty funny!

44 posted on 12/31/2001 2:32:56 PM PST by cardinal4
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To: Smedley
You are correct that his enemies have a right to speak out. However I was responding to the article that suggested that Clinton should not speak out. Once somebody is attacked either in print or the electronic media they have a right to respond. If someone criticized you I think you would have a right to respond. If someone attacks Bush he has a right to respond. However, the author of the article is damning Clinton for responding to the various diatribes against him. Frankly I think the country has far better things to do than dwell on the sins of Clinton. His eight years are over. All of this was debated ad nauseum during the impeachment debate and he was found guilty of getting blow jobs beyond a reasonable doubt. My point is that it is time to move on to other things. I would prefer that both Clinton and his critics change the subject.
45 posted on 12/31/2001 2:34:40 PM PST by Nightstalker
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To: Nightstalker
You forgot his most damnable offense. The one that really irks conservatives. The only one that matters to Republicans. He WON TWO ELECTIONS. Truth be told that is the real reason he is so hated.

No, it's what he did before and after he won two elections.

Clinton is a sociopath, rapist, liar. Real truth be told, that is why he is so hated.

46 posted on 12/31/2001 2:35:05 PM PST by lonestar
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To: LiberteeBell
``We have to remind people of what we did on the economy, what we did with the crime bill, what we did with terrorism,'' one Clinton adviser told the New York Times. ``They're trying to pin the bin Laden thing on us.''

"Has that clinton "legacy" made you feel safer yet?"
Lest Americans ever forget why the clintons, and all their enablers need to be hectored, hounded, and harried into silence, until "clintonese is only spoken in Hell," look here:

The Holiday *Best* of Bill Clinton & his Friends!

-clintonism in one easy lesson--

-"until clintonese is spoken only in Hell!"--

47 posted on 12/31/2001 2:36:33 PM PST by backhoe
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To: Slyfox
Please be more clear, slyfox, don't sugar coat it!!!

Just joking! GREAT LIST!! I'm ready the next time a liberal asks me why we conservatives so hated Clinton. Slyfox has codified the exhaustive answer. Bravo!

48 posted on 12/31/2001 2:39:12 PM PST by McBuff
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To: Nightstalker
I'll tell you what. You give three thousand people their lives back, restore those obliterated buildings, four planes, and God knows how many more lives that were affected by this....You or Bubba manage all that, and I'll let it drop.

Fair enough?

49 posted on 12/31/2001 2:40:12 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: Slyfox
I don't think anyone is upset that he won twice, it's what he did with the job once he got it.

Speak for yourself - I was upset that he was elected in 92, and I posted it above.

I thought CHARACTER was important in 92 - no matter how much the press tried to convince us otherwise. I thought a draft-dodger would be a disaster for our military. I thought a then well-known womanizer would be a disaster for the feminist movement (they are now deservedly ridiculed). I didn't even care about the "I didn't inhale" story. This man was horrible in 92 and the media blind-sided the American people. I, for one, will never forgive that breech of trust from the once respected trust I had in the media.

50 posted on 12/31/2001 2:42:14 PM PST by Alissa
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