Skip to comments.Tortoise stops Army's advance
Posted on 01/01/2002 5:50:30 AM PST by rfaceEdited on 04/13/2004 2:07:13 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
FORT IRWIN, Calif. - With real tanks, fake ammunition, and thousands of troops, ''combat'' on the Army's 643,000-acre training ground in the Mojave Desert amounts to the world's biggest war game.
Now a move to expand the National Training Center to make it even more realistic is being held up by two endangered species - the desert tortoise and a plant called the Lane Mountain milkvetch.
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Of course not...they're just against the Army getting the proper training they need in order to save their lives one day.
But hey, a species of turtles that I never heard of untill today are more important than the lives of our heroic brave soldiers.
That darn wabbit stole it.
Gives a new perspective on the tortoise and the hair story.
LOL!! That was good!
Endangered species are tools, used by the radical left to forward their agenda - antimilitary, anticapitalist, antiliberty. Politicians bend to their will because they have the American people convinced that they care about the fuzzy little creatures - nothing could be further from the truth.
Because a decade ago, I saw a Request For Proposals in _Commerce Business Daily_ soliciting proposals for the "Study of the Three-Toed Desert Tortoise"
I never forgot the ad because it ststed in the requirements that "ONLY Dr. xxxx is an authority on the Three-Toed Desert Tortoise".
I thought something smelled then , and wondered whose relative this guy was.
The Center for Biological Diversity staff listing shows that 20% of them are lawyers, so it's no surprise that, along with the millions of dollars they and other such groups 'acquire' from the federal government and misguided eco-philanthropy groups that in the last year allowed them to invoke law-suits every week:
- December 22, 2001 - ENVIRONMENTAL ALLIANCE FIGHTS PUBLIC LAND GRAZING ON BIG SUR COAST
- December 20, 2001 - CONSERVATIONISTS TAKE TO THE SAND IN DUNES DEFENSE MISSION: ENVIRONMENTAL MONITORING AT DUNES STEPPED UP OVER HOLIDAYS.
- December 14, 2001 - GREEN STURGEON MOVES CLOSER TO PROTECTED STATUS
- December 13, 2001 - SIERRA NEVADA AMPHIBIANS MAY GET ENDANGERED SPECIES PROTECTIONS: Court places Yosemite toad and yellow-legged frog in study queue
- December 13, 2001Defense Authorization Bill Passes With Provision to Expand Ft. Irwin; Conservationists Decry Loss of Wildlife and Wilderness.
- December 12, 2001 LAWSUIT FILED TO PROTECT SAN ANTONIOS AQUIFER AND ENDANGERED CAVE SPECIES
- December 12, 2001CENTER OFFERS $5,000 REWARD FOR APPREHENSION OF WOLF KILLERS
- December 10, 2001 - GROUPS FILE WILD AND SCENIC RIVER LAWSUIT TO PROTECT NORTH FORK EEL RIVER
- December 10, 2001 - BLM protects endangered Peninsular Ranges bighorn sheep lambing habitat from off-road vehicles and unauthorized mining
... and that's just December; there are over 75 listings on their 'Press Release' page for the past year.
I don't know how, but there has to be a way to shut down the government grants and funding that these eco-terrorist groups are stealing from the pockets of the owners of the country.
The CA Native Plant Society has been "planting" seeds on properties they want to stop human ownership and activity on! It is strongly suspected that government flunkies have been lending a helping hand. I'm just waiting for the proof to break in the Washington Times like the hairy lynx article, cause I KNOW it will NEVER appear in the Washington Post!!!
Turns out that there were competing mines that didn't want him to start. Both are going great guns. Both are owned by foreign multinationals.
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Rancher Dave Fisher's BLM allotment is bordered on two sides by DOD land and the counters have authority to count on the BLM land. These counters have been caught counting on the lands that Dave Fisher owns.
Wonder how they taste in soup? Probably just like chicken-otherwise they are not really turtles.
Heck, they're so anti-business around here that the plants that need preservin are the kind people work in!!!
With the success of our military in destroying the Taliban and most of the Al_Queerdos in Afghanistan, you can expect these envirals to step up their actions all over to prevent our military from training. My suggestion is to use Somali, Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Lebannon, Lybia and other Islamic fanatic areas as "Free Fire training grounds and use Daisy Cutters on any envirals found in these areas!
SW, the seeds of rare plants has been a fairly obvious "plant" scheme of the envirals here on the West Coast. The answer is to reproduce these plants using dna and good agriculture and plant so damn many seeds that they aren't rare anymore!
Of course if the envirals infesting the various departments want to get you, they don't need to even have signs of past critter or present critters.
I have a friend who owns a office complex near a seasonal stream. He and other property owners wanted to put out sand bags along parts of the stream during our wet winters to prevent flashfloods. Then in late spring they would remove the sandbags until the next heavy rainy season!
They were told by the various critter lovers that the stream was probably inhabited by the famous Red Legged frog.
My friend and other land owners spent a lot of money with a legit frog checking outfit. The legit frog checking outfit said that they could not find any indication that Red Legged Frogs were alive around the seasonal stream or that they had ever lived there in the last several hundred years.
My friend and the other land owners were told by these enviral Nazis that their study did not count.
Even if there was no sign that red legged frogs had ever been in this area, it looked like a place that the Red Legged Frog would like to live on/in. Therefore they could not allow seasonal sand bagging to prevent flooding.
This area just missed severe flooding yesterday by a couple of inches! A little more rain or a higher tide would have been a flood disaster that could have been avoided!
I know 'bout that there Napa River floodin, bigtime!!! Used to live in St. Helena, then Napa in the 1960's. That river sure stunk in those days!!! Now, EnvironMentalism has become over-ripe and it STINKS!!!
You are so correct in your analysis, especially as regards the military preparedness. Keep on rantin! I still love it!!! (I liked you're "NANNY NAZI'S" best)
Route 12, Jamieson Canyon Road, between Napa and I80 east of Fairfield has become a death trap. The local Nazi Nannies were quietly blocking any new road work to widen the road. A group of us started an underground tactic of "If a family member or friend dies in a traffice accident on Jamieson Canyon Road, you want to blame the enviral Nazi Nannies and the big envirals protecting the Red Legged Frog that ain't there!"
In about two weeks after this unofficial campaign, the biggie enviral org of Nazi Nannies said that they were not against making the road safer! I told one of them that if I found out that they were working in the background to keep the road from being made safe, I would get hold of the meanest and vilest lawyer to sue him and his group for everything he owned and his group owned. I think that he soiled his Depends as I stared at him during and after my comments!
That infamous Route12 is what brought me to the Napa Valley in 1964. A fully loaded cut lumber truck hit my father-in-law's Nash rambler head-on in 1964 and killed not only him, but his adult daughter, along with 2 or her 4 kids. My mother-in-law died soon after and all the funerals and the need for my spouse to care for her mom brought us speeding out here.
While on the way here, I stopped to visit my long-lost cousin in Auburn and she took me over to see where LBJ had just signed the bill authorizing Auburn Dam. Little did I know then how involved in the fight to finish that project I would eventually become. Hell, it got 2/3rds done before the Fiends of the River and Commercial Whitewater Rafting Corporations made up of spoiled brats, stuck in the 60's with their heads up Moonbeam's differential, claiming to be enviralists... killed it!
I don't know, Dave... how desperate does the energy problem and the resultant economic pressure have to get before the people finally wake up?
Short version, sorry to hear about your own personal tragedy re rt 12/Jameson Canyon. The road is now even more dangerous as about half the new workers in Napa during the Clintoon's high interest era, can't afford a home in Napa. The traffic patterns are now reversed with heavy dangerous traffic oozing into Napa during the Am and oozing out during the pm. I returned from fly fishing on the American yesterday evening and it was bumper to bumper from I80 to just South of Napa at 6+pm.
To try and answer this from you: I don't know, Dave... how desperate does the energy problem and the resultant economic pressure have to get before the people finally wake up?
One of my constant posts/replies is that for any ism, (socialism, facism, communism, liberalism), to survive, the ism must have control of the mediots and the media.
We know about the media here in Kalifornia. They are nothing but PR flacks or worse for the demonicRats like Davis and his band of sexual perverts in the legislature! So the mediots and media enable these criminals and perverts to remain in office!
Last but not least the failed educational system in Kali is nothing but a voting cult and fund raiser for the demonicrats. The so called graduates of high school and most colleges can't read and understand anything complicated. They have no thought processes beside White Christians/Jew men = evil. Dirty perverted life stylers = good! Then throw in about 7 million illegal aliens who can't even speak nor read English and who vote for the demonicRats, you have Kalifornia!
We understand on Free Republic, but our fellow Kalis have no concept nor understanding of the criminal actions of Davis and his perverts in the legislature!
It is a slow and uphill battle!
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