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Reagan's advise to Nixon about dumping the UN
c-span (as reported by FOX News) ^ | October 26, 1971 | white house tapes

Posted on 01/01/2002 4:40:20 PM PST by avg_freeper

As reported on FOX News:

October 1971:
President Richard M. Nixon and California Governor Ronald W. Reagan (10/26), Attorney General John Mitchell (10/14 & 10/19), and Supreme Court Nominee Justice Lewis Powell.

Topics: The vote to seat mainland China at the United Nations. Considering Lewis Powell or Howard Baker as new Supreme Court Nominee. Convincing Powell to accept nomination as Associate Supreme Court Justice.

Follow the link of the source and click the October 1971 Listen link at the bottom. It's RealPlayer format.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
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I like his advise. We should of put the UN in their place a long time ago. Too late now I'm afraid.

The conversation concerned the decision to seat China. If you listen to the tape you'll hear Reagan first state how we should just get the blank out of the UN.

Later he lays out how we could show are disapproval. First call G. H. Bush back and let them stew for awhile. Then send him back but refuse to ever take part in another vote. Again good advice.

One ominous note in this tape though. You can hear Nixon talking with Reagan about a boiling over India/Pakistan situation about 4:15 into the tape.

1 posted on 01/01/2002 4:40:20 PM PST by avg_freeper
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To: avg_freeper
One more reason to miss The Gipper.
3 posted on 01/01/2002 5:10:05 PM PST by jrewingjr
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To: avg_freeper
Reagan had wisdom.
4 posted on 01/01/2002 5:18:23 PM PST by kassie
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To: avg_freeper
I thought Reagan was dumb and senile and couldn't think without a script from his advisers </ sarcasm>
5 posted on 01/01/2002 5:20:32 PM PST by ambrose
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To: ambrose
Too bad Bush is SO STUPID! /double sarcasm off
6 posted on 01/01/2002 5:23:09 PM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: kassie
Reagan had all the foresight, intellect, and quick thinking that the media constantly tries to squeeze out of goofs like Gore and Hillary.

I was a little too young at the time to see through the spin. But I'll never forgive the media for denying me this view of the man.

And I'll never be fooled into taking their opinion for fact again.

7 posted on 01/01/2002 5:26:11 PM PST by avg_freeper
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To: avg_freeper
Very interesting! Cool to hear history in the making.
8 posted on 01/01/2002 5:29:05 PM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: avg_freeper
I was very young when RR was president, but I owe it to him for making me a Republican. He was the best President in my lifetime. I hope we have another president like him someday.
9 posted on 01/01/2002 5:48:52 PM PST by Crispy
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To: avg_freeper
Oh man, that was great! Almost like being there.
10 posted on 01/01/2002 6:13:41 PM PST by The Great Satan
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To: avg_freeper
Ronaldus Maximus is my hero. GWB is taking on many Reaganesque attitudes. He irritates the loony left almost as well as the Great One did. Hope he tells the UN to take a hike!
11 posted on 01/01/2002 6:37:00 PM PST by CARepubGal
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To: avg_freeper
Very interesting.
13 posted on 01/01/2002 9:02:59 PM PST by newzjunkey
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To: avg_freeper
I saw this a few nights ago on Special Report when they played the tape. Extremely cool, and as true today as it was then.
14 posted on 01/01/2002 9:10:34 PM PST by July 4th
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To: avg_freeper
We have to stay in the UN if only to veto them from doing anything.
15 posted on 01/01/2002 9:29:33 PM PST by weikel
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We have to stay in the UN if only to veto them from doing anything.

WRONG! Without US, there is no UN. DUH.

16 posted on 01/01/2002 9:34:54 PM PST by onyx
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To: avg_freeper
Great catch. Thanks so much. Will listen tomorrow.
17 posted on 01/01/2002 9:35:58 PM PST by onyx
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To: onyx
Maybe but I think they would continue to exist and start passing socialist anti american and anti israel resolutions without the US being there to veto them. I could be wrong.
18 posted on 01/01/2002 10:29:48 PM PST by weikel
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To: avg_freeper
BTTT,

for those who have not seen or heard this yet.

19 posted on 01/02/2002 7:08:49 AM PST by avg_freeper
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To: onyx
Your welcome.

I first heard about it on Fox and was happy I found the C-span site so I could share the full tape.

I've found time and time again that when you catch a glimpse of Reagan in the presence of another you quickly come to see that Reagan was a far better man.

You can hear Nixon searching for a way to build power by consensus as if that were the solution.

But Reagan wanted to just do the right thing.

20 posted on 01/02/2002 12:04:25 PM PST by avg_freeper
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To: joanie-f
Thought you might like this.
21 posted on 01/02/2002 12:08:54 PM PST by WhatPriceFreedom?
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They have posted the transcript on FOX now:
Reagan: Well, Mr. President, the reason I called was ... we can't just sit and take this and continue as if nothing has happened. My every instinct says get the hell out of that --

Nixon: [Laughs]

Reagan: -- kangaroo court, and let it, uh --

Nixon: Yeah.

Reagan: --sink.

The conversation continues with Reagan suggesting the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, former oilman-turned-congressman George Bush, send a signal to what Reagan called the "bums" in the international organization.

Reagan: [I]f you brought Mr. Bush back to Washington, to let them sweat for about 24 hours, as to what you were thinking of, and then if you went on television to the people of the United States and said that Mr. Bush was going back to the U.N., to participate in debate and discussion, to present our views and so forth, but he would not participate in any votes--that the United States would not vote and would not be bound by the votes of the U.N., because it is a debating society. You don't have to say that, but it is a debating society --

Nixon: Mm-hmm.

Reagan: And, and so we'd be there, our presence would be there. But we would just not participate in their votes. I think it would put those bums in the perspective they belong [sic].

Nixon: [Pause, then laughter] It sure would!

Nixon: "Moral bankruptcy" is a good term.

Nixon also assures Reagan the U.S. will defend Taiwan militarily.

Nixon: [T]his action does not affect at all our defense treaty and all that.

Reagan: No, I know.


Debating society. I like that. About the best thing you could say about the UN is that it is a Toastmasters for losers.
22 posted on 01/02/2002 5:31:40 PM PST by avg_freeper
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To: avg_freeper
nostalgic bump
23 posted on 01/02/2002 10:58:21 PM PST by The Great Satan
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