Skip to comments.Reagan's advise to Nixon about dumping the UN
Posted on 01/01/2002 4:40:20 PM PST by avg_freeper
As reported on FOX News:
President Richard M. Nixon and California Governor Ronald W. Reagan (10/26), Attorney General John Mitchell (10/14 & 10/19), and Supreme Court Nominee Justice Lewis Powell.
Topics: The vote to seat mainland China at the United Nations. Considering Lewis Powell or Howard Baker as new Supreme Court Nominee. Convincing Powell to accept nomination as Associate Supreme Court Justice.
Follow the link of the source and click the October 1971 Listen link at the bottom. It's RealPlayer format.
The conversation concerned the decision to seat China. If you listen to the tape you'll hear Reagan first state how we should just get the blank out of the UN.
Later he lays out how we could show are disapproval. First call G. H. Bush back and let them stew for awhile. Then send him back but refuse to ever take part in another vote. Again good advice.
One ominous note in this tape though. You can hear Nixon talking with Reagan about a boiling over India/Pakistan situation about 4:15 into the tape.
I was a little too young at the time to see through the spin. But I'll never forgive the media for denying me this view of the man.
And I'll never be fooled into taking their opinion for fact again.
WRONG! Without US, there is no UN. DUH.
for those who have not seen or heard this yet.
I first heard about it on Fox and was happy I found the C-span site so I could share the full tape.
I've found time and time again that when you catch a glimpse of Reagan in the presence of another you quickly come to see that Reagan was a far better man.
You can hear Nixon searching for a way to build power by consensus as if that were the solution.
But Reagan wanted to just do the right thing.
Reagan: -- kangaroo court, and let it, uh --
The conversation continues with Reagan suggesting the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, former oilman-turned-congressman George Bush, send a signal to what Reagan called the "bums" in the international organization.
Reagan: [I]f you brought Mr. Bush back to Washington, to let them sweat for about 24 hours, as to what you were thinking of, and then if you went on television to the people of the United States and said that Mr. Bush was going back to the U.N., to participate in debate and discussion, to present our views and so forth, but he would not participate in any votes--that the United States would not vote and would not be bound by the votes of the U.N., because it is a debating society. You don't have to say that, but it is a debating society --
Reagan: And, and so we'd be there, our presence would be there. But we would just not participate in their votes. I think it would put those bums in the perspective they belong [sic].
Nixon: [Pause, then laughter] It sure would!
Nixon: "Moral bankruptcy" is a good term.
Nixon also assures Reagan the U.S. will defend Taiwan militarily.
Nixon: [T]his action does not affect at all our defense treaty and all that.
Reagan: No, I know.