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Meteor Clue To End Of Middle East Civilisations
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 11-04-2001 | Robert Matthews

Posted on 01/03/2002 10:50:09 PM PST by blam

Meteor clue to end of Middle East civilisations

By Robert Matthews, Science Correspondent
(Filed: 04/11/2001)

SCIENTISTS have found the first evidence that a devastating meteor impact in the Middle East might have triggered the mysterious collapse of civilisations more than 4,000 years ago.

satellite images of southern Iraq have revealed a two-mile-wide impact crater caused by a meteor

Studies of satellite images of southern Iraq have revealed a two-mile-wide circular depression which scientists say bears all the hallmarks of an impact crater. If confirmed, it would point to the Middle East being struck by a meteor with the violence equivalent to hundreds of nuclear bombs.

Today's crater lies on what would have been shallow sea 4,000 years ago, and any impact would have caused devastating fires and flooding.

The catastrophic effect of these could explain the mystery of why so many early cultures went into sudden decline around 2300 BC.

They include the demise of the Akkad culture of central Iraq, with its mysterious semi-mythological emperor Sargon; the end of the fifth dynasty of Egypt's Old Kingdom, following the building of the Great Pyramids and the sudden disappearance of hundreds of early settlements in the Holy Land.

Until now, archaeologists have put forward a host of separate explanations for these events, from local wars to environmental changes. Recently, some astronomers have suggested that meteor impacts could explain such historical mysteries.

The crater's faint outline was found by Dr Sharad Master, a geologist at the University of Witwatersrand, Johannesburg, on satellite images of the Al 'Amarah region, about 10 miles north-west of the confluence of the Tigris and Euphrates and home of the Marsh Arabs.

"It was a purely accidental discovery," Dr Master told The Telegraph last week. "I was reading a magazine article about the canal-building projects of Saddam Hussein, and there was a photograph showing lots of formations - one of which was very, very circular."

Detailed analysis of other satellite images taken since the mid-1980s showed that for many years the crater contained a small lake.

The draining of the region, as part of Saddam's campaign against the Marsh Arabs, has since caused the lake to recede, revealing a ring-like ridge inside the larger bowl-like depression - a classic feature of meteor impact craters.

The crater also appears to be, in geological terms, very recent. Dr Master said: "The sediments in this region are very young, so whatever caused the crater-like structure, it must have happened within the past 6,000 years."

Reporting his finding in the latest issue of the journal Meteoritics & Planetary Science, Dr Master suggests that a recent meteor impact is the most plausible explanation for the structure.

A survey of the crater itself could reveal tell-tale melted rock. "If we could find fragments of impact glass, we could date them using radioactive dating techniques," he said.

A date of around 2300 BC for the impact may also cast new light on the legend of Gilgamesh, dating from the same period. The legend talks of "the Seven Judges of Hell", who raised their torches, lighting the land with flame, and a storm that turned day into night, "smashed the land like a cup", and flooded the area.

The discovery of the crater has sparked great interest among scientists.

Dr Benny Peiser, who lectures on the effects of meteor impacts at John Moores University, Liverpool, said it was one of the most significant discoveries in recent years and would corroborate research he and others have done.

He said that craters recently found in Argentina date from around the same period - suggesting that the Earth may have been hit by a shower of large meteors at about the same time.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Egypt; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agade; akkad; archaeology; assyria; babylon; baillie; catastrophe; catastrophism; curseofagade; donovancourville; egypt; exodus; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; impact; levy; mikebaillie; oldkingdom; shoemaker; sumer; sumerians; velikovsky
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I liked this article so much, I decided to post it again.
1 posted on 01/03/2002 10:50:09 PM PST by blam
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
FYI.
2 posted on 01/03/2002 10:50:51 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
BUMP
3 posted on 01/03/2002 11:03:22 PM PST by Orion78
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To: blam
very interesting. thanks blam.
4 posted on 01/03/2002 11:04:43 PM PST by XBob
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To: blam;Gods, Graves, Glyphs;sabertooth;callisto;spycatcher;Apollo
Very interesting!

To find all articles tagged or indexed using 'Gods, Graves, Glyphs'

Click here: 'Gods, Graves, Glyphs'

5 posted on 01/03/2002 11:05:01 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: blam
bump for later
6 posted on 01/03/2002 11:06:41 PM PST by d4now
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To: blam
Isn't it funny that Gilgamesh is mentioned yet Noah isn't?
No sense in giving credence to Christian beliefs in our politically correct "society" is there?
7 posted on 01/03/2002 11:07:24 PM PST by philman_36
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To: blam
He said that craters recently found in Argentina date from around the same period - suggesting that the Earth may have been hit by a shower of large meteors at about the same time.

Wow. Brings to mind the world wide "flood" stories.

8 posted on 01/03/2002 11:09:27 PM PST by d4now
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To: blam
Oh, Darn!

I thought this would be about a NEW meteor to wipe out the region without us needing to do it our way. Nature's daisy cutter! No more Iran, No more Iraq, No more Saudis, No more Yemenis! The War on Terror would be O-V-E-R and just in time for a nap!

You've REALLY disappointed me...

9 posted on 01/03/2002 11:12:05 PM PST by Tall_Texan
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To: blam
Interesting. Thanks blam.
10 posted on 01/03/2002 11:22:13 PM PST by brat
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To: blam
"He said that craters recently found in Argentina date from around the same period - suggesting that the Earth may have been hit by a shower of large meteors at about the same time."

Would explain the similar flood myths in pre-Colombian culture that coincide with the more reknowned biblical floods of Noah and the bible...

11 posted on 01/03/2002 11:36:48 PM PST by Frances_Marion
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To: blam
Unfortunately, I bet meteors are like lightening, they never strike twice in the same place.
12 posted on 01/03/2002 11:51:02 PM PST by ALASKA
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To: philman_36
Noah is relatively undated, compared to Gilgamesh.
13 posted on 01/03/2002 11:52:28 PM PST by Hagrid
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To: blam
I liked this article so much, I sent it to my son. :0)

Happy New Year, Blam! Hope it's your best year ever.

14 posted on 01/03/2002 11:54:00 PM PST by JudyB1938
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To: blam;wardaddy;COB1;PoorMuttly
Very interesting read !
15 posted on 01/03/2002 11:55:41 PM PST by nopardons
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To: blam
Just one guy's wild guess:

I think the 'estimates' of the timeframe are pure guesswork calculated to get a headline. It's likely the impact crater is much eariler.

As far as I know, there is no way to get a close estimate an impact site's age simply from a photograph. As far as I know, the only sign you can possibly key on is the 'look' of the edges, and guess at how much erosion has taken place. This wouldn't allow a guess to be anywhere near this accurate, unless I'm completely mistaken.

You can tell 'young' craters from 'old' craters. But you can't even guess within a few thousand years how old they may be.

I think it rather likely that the area-wide 'apocalypse' around 2300bce, the event that ended these civs, was actually the eruption/explosion of Thera.

And I think it's pretty likely that the 'Atlantis' story refers to this event. And the 'Moses' bit about the plagues of Egypt. And the Odysey.

Of course, that's just a wild guess.

16 posted on 01/04/2002 12:01:37 AM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: Dominic Harr
"I think it rather likely that the area-wide 'apocalypse' around 2300bce, the event that ended these civs, was actually the eruption/explosion of Thera."

The Thera/Akatori/Santorini explosion has been dated to 1628 BC. (tree rings/ice core/other) Some, including myself, think this is/was the Exodus period.

17 posted on 01/04/2002 6:29:00 AM PST by blam
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To: blam
The Thera/Akatori/Santorini explosion has been dated to 1628 BC. (tree rings/ice core/other).

I've seen dates ranging from 2300 to 1500 also.

But I believe all these dates are subject to the same 'guesswork', and that the odds are that they still all relate to the same group of events.

I would also agree that the Thera event is almost certainly linked to the exodus story.

18 posted on 01/04/2002 6:56:31 AM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: JudyB1938
"Happy New Year, Blam! Hope it's your best year ever."

Happy New Year to you too. (I'm afraid my best years are behind me, lol)

19 posted on 01/04/2002 10:53:00 AM PST by blam
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To: blam
Even in fairly modern times comets or meteors have caused catastrophy such as the simultaneous fires in Chicago, Peshtigo WI, and Michigan, in 1871. These fires killed an estimated 650 people all together. The comet theory is just that, a theory, but eye witness acounts from Peshtigo indicate an airbust of a comet as the likely culprit.
20 posted on 01/04/2002 11:10:25 AM PST by Straight Vermonter
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To: Straight Vermonter
(Thanks, I've never heard of this fire)

The great Peshtigo fire

Many worshipers in the church congregations throughout the small logging town of Peshtigo, Wisconsin were praying for rain on Sunday October 8, 1871. It had been a hot and dry year so far - only two measurable rains had fallen from July through September and drought conditions had been in effect since May. Creeks were dried up and the level of the Peshtigo River, upon which the townsfolk relied upon for water and transportation, was dispiritingly low. The surrounding woods and grasslands were dry and brittle and crews of volunteers from the town had spent many a day battling the sporadic wildfires that flickered across the horizon. The smoke from these fires hung low over the town and often made breathing a chore. Certainly some rain would be welcome in Peshtigo.

Just after 8:30 that evening a dull roar alarmed everyone in town. Flames from the scattered forest fires had been whipped into an inferno by ferocious winds and Peshtigo stood directly in its path. Firefighters started out to meet this new challenge but soon tossed aside their buckets and fled for home to collect their families and head for the Peshtigo River. As the blaze hit the town, the air was aglow with burning embers and walls of hot sand. Within minutes the entire town was burning. By 10:00 that night Peshtigo was gone.

That morning there had been more than 2000 residents in Peshtigo, a boom town on the railroad line. Men found abundant work in the forests and on construction crews. The world's largest wooden-ware factory was in Peshtigo. No more. The Great Peshtigo Fire and its aftermath claimed 1,125 lives. Many died of suffocation in wells where they had sought shelter, others drowned in the rivers, most simply could not escape the onrushing flames.

The fire destroyed every building in Peshtigo, save for a recently erected structure whose wood was still too green to burn. More than 1.25 million acres of forest were scorched before the winds died and the fire burned itself out before dawn. That next day, the rains finally came.

The Great Peshtigo Fire was, and is, the worst fire in the history of the United States, taking more lives than the next two worst fires combined. Yet most people have never heard of the Great Peshtigo Fire because, strangely, it occurred at the exact same time as America's most famous fire - the Great Chicago Fire. The fire in Chicago that may or may not have been started by Mrs. O'Leary's ornery cow destroyed 17,450 structures, caused about $200 million in damage and left one-third of the city homeless. Some 250 people were killed in the Chicago Fire and it grabbed every headline in America.

News of the tragedy in the small town 240 miles north of Chicago took days to reach the public and was quickly forgotten. The Governor of Wisconsin felt compelled to issue a special proclamation begging people to divert gifts from Chicago to Peshtigo. Relief supplies poured into the village and $155,000 was raised within a few months. Villagers rebuilt Peshtigo from the ashes into a new, vibrant town but the conflagration was never forgotten. The Peshtigo Fire Museum opened in 1963 to tell the story to generations who might forget. Adjacent to the museum is the Peshtigo Fire Cemetery containing the remains of several hundred unidentified persons and a monument to those who died.

For some the coincidence of two of America's most devastating fires igniting on the same day is too great. Although the ultra dry drought conditions are the official cause of the Peshtigo Fire, one theory speculates that a comet struck the earth in the area. Such a celestial intruder would be largely composed of ice and would leave no evidence. No one will ever know for certain.

Written by Doug Gelbert

21 posted on 01/04/2002 2:10:33 PM PST by blam
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To: Dominic Harr
"I would also agree that the Thera event is almost certainly linked to the exodus story."

I read a report on one guys study to tie the plume of the Thera volcano to the words, Staff by day, Torch by night, from the bible. He concluded that the plume would have to be 30 miles high to fit the bill. The recent Pinatubo volcano in the Phillipines was 26 miles high. So......

22 posted on 01/04/2002 2:26:00 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
(I'm waiting for someone to connect the meteorite impact in Iraq to this recorded event.)

Disaster that struck the ancients

Four thousand two hundred years ago, the first great civilisation in Egypt collapsed.
The pharaohs of the Egyptian Old Kingdom had built the mightiest legacy of the ancient world - the pyramids at Giza. But after nearly a thousand years of stability, central authority disintegrated and the country collapsed into chaos for more than a 100 years.

What happened, and why, has remained a huge controversy. But Professor Fekri Hassan, from University College London, UK, wanted to solve the mystery, by gathering together scientific clues.

His inspiration was the little known tomb in southern Egypt of a regional governor, Ankhtifi. The hieroglyphs there reported "all of Upper Egypt was dying of hunger to such a degree that everyone had come to eating their children".

Dismissed as exaggeration and fantasy by most other Egyptologists, Fekri was determined to prove the writings were true and accurate. He also had to find a culprit capable of producing such misery.

Stalactites and stalagmites

"My hunch from the beginning was that it had to do with the environment in which the Egyptians lived." Fekri felt sure the Nile, the river that has always been at the heart of Egyptian life, was implicated.

He studied the meticulous records, kept since the 7th Century, of Nile floods. He was amazed to see that there was a huge variation in the size of the annual Nile floods - the floods that were vital for irrigating the land.

But no records existed for 2,200BC. Then came a breakthrough - a new discovery in the hills of neighbouring Israel. Mira Bar-Matthews of the Geological Survey of Israel had found a unique record of past climates, locked in the stalactites and stalagmites of a cave near Tel Aviv.

What they show is a sudden and dramatic drop in rainfall, by 20%. It is the largest climate event in 5,000 years. And the date? 2,200 BC.

As Israel and Egypt are in different weather systems, Fekri needed evidence of some worldwide climate event to link this to the collapse of the Old Kingdom. And the evidence came out of the blue.

Geologist Gerard Bond, of the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory at Columbia University, US, looks for climate evidence in the icebergs of Iceland. As they melt on their journey south, they leave shards of volcanic ash on the ocean floor.

Dry lake

How far they travelled before melting tells him how cold it was. Cores of mud from the ocean floor revealed to him regular periods of extreme cold - mini ice ages - in Europe every 1,500 years, and lasting 200 years. And one mini ice age occurred at 2,200 BC.

Gerard's colleague, Peter deMenocal, looked at climate records for the rest of the world at exactly the same time. From pollen records to sand, the story was the same - a dramatic climate change from Indonesia to the Mediterranean, Greenland to North America.

Scientists were confirming everything Fekri believed - severe climate change causing widespread human misery 4,200 years ago, misery we are only now learning about for the first time.

Back in Egypt, Fekri wanted to put the last piece of the puzzle in place. He wanted direct evidence of this severe climate change in the Nile. And he found it drilling cores in a large lake that had been fed by a tributary of the Nile in ancient times.

He discovered in the critical period, as the Old Kingdom collapsed, the lake had dried up completely - the only time in the whole history of this lake that this had happened. At last, Fekri felt he had proved that the writings on Ankhtifi's tomb were really true. It was nature that had driven people to desperation.

The Ancient Apocalypse series begins on BBC Two on Thursday, 26 July, at 2100 BST

23 posted on 01/04/2002 2:40:13 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
Interesting historical posts. Happy New Year, blam!
24 posted on 01/04/2002 2:41:05 PM PST by Concentrate
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To: blam
Yep. I've also seen interesting speculation that the 'plagues of Egypt' track very well to common pre-eruption behavior. Frogs coming up from the ground, the river running red, the plague, the locusts.

And some *very* interesting speculation that the 'parting of the Red Sea' actually refers to the 'sea of reeds' area on the coast, and the 'parting' refers to the tidal wave that came after the eruption (the water receeds before a tidal wave comes in).

25 posted on 01/04/2002 2:41:24 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: philman_36
It's also funny how a shower of flame shares absolutely zero attributes with a flood.

In other words, Noah isn't mentioned because the story of this possible disaster has nothing to do with water.

26 posted on 01/04/2002 2:47:48 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: blam
SCIENTISTS have found the first evidence that a devastating meteor impact in the Middle East might have triggered the mysterious collapse of civilisations more than 4,000 years ago.

I've heard that there was a great Vedic society of legend that also disappeared some 4K(?) years ago, whose people spoke "Indo-European", a language that gave rise to Sandskrit, Greek and Proto-Germanic. It was the society from which the Vedas come from, the oldest scriptures known.

27 posted on 01/04/2002 2:53:05 PM PST by Concentrate
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To: philman_36
Noah IS Gilgamesh. If you've read both accounts you'll find they are practically the same story, down to the same lines in some places.

Gilgamesh:

I looked for land in vain, but fourteen leagues distant there appeared a mountain, and there the boat grounded; on the mountain of Nisir the boat held fast, she held fast and did not budge. One day she held, and a second day on the mountain of Nisir she held fast and did not budge. A third day and a fourth day she held fast on the mountain and did not budge; a fifth day and a sixth day she held fast on the mountain. When the seventh day dawned I loosed a dove and let her go. She flew away, but finding no resting place she returned. Then I loosed a swallow, and she flew away but finding no resting place she returned. I loosed a raven, she saw that the waters retreated, she ate, she flew around, she cawed, but she did not come back. Then I threw everything open to the four winds, I made a sacrifice and poured a libation on the mountain top.
The story refers back to the flooding of the Black Sea around some 7,000 BC. The Hebrews borrowed the story from the Sumerians.

for more on this read The Flood is Found!

28 posted on 01/04/2002 2:55:11 PM PST by darkseid
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To: Dominic Harr
"And some *very* interesting speculation that the 'parting of the Red Sea' actually refers to the 'sea of reeds' area on the coast, and the 'parting' refers to the tidal wave that came after the eruption (the water receeds before a tidal wave comes in)."

I like that theory. However, I like Howard Blum's theory better. In his book, The Gold Of Exodus, he claims that the Israelites crossed the mouth of the Gulf Of Aqaba and that the real Mt. Sinai is actually in Saudi Arabia. (This is presently my favorite theory.)

29 posted on 01/04/2002 2:57:58 PM PST by blam
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To: darkseid
"for more on this read The Flood is Found!

I believe the account of Noah's flood as related in Ryan and Pittman's book, Noah's Flood. I read this book three times from the library, my son gave it to me as a Christmas present this year.

30 posted on 01/04/2002 3:07:41 PM PST by blam
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To: darkseid
Flood Stories From Around The World

http://atta.best.vwh.net/floods.htm

(will someone kindly supply a link, I don't know how, thanks.)

31 posted on 01/04/2002 3:15:02 PM PST by blam
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To: Concentrate
"I've heard that there was a great Vedic society of legend that also disappeared some 4K(?) years ago, whose people spoke "Indo-European", a language that gave rise to Sandskrit, Greek and Proto-Germanic."

Linguists believe that all the Indo-European languages (The Mother Tongue) originated in Anatolia. It may have been spread far and wide from this point by the refugees from the Black Sea (Noah's) flood?

32 posted on 01/04/2002 3:19:27 PM PST by blam
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To: darkseid
Borrowed? That's funny. All the archeological finds are naturally in harmony with the Bible because the Scriptures are completely true. However, the apostates want us to believe that all parallels between the Scriptures and ancient texts stem from the Biblical authors plagiarism.
33 posted on 01/04/2002 3:23:17 PM PST by Chemnitz
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To: blam
I believe that the Gulf of Aqaba is the Eastern finger - the Sea of Reeds was the Gulf of Suez - the Western finger of the Red Sea. That is still consistant with your theory.
34 posted on 01/05/2002 8:25:57 AM PST by FrogMom
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To: FrogMom

Of course, you are correct. I have travelled through the Red Sea a number of times, many years ago.

35 posted on 01/05/2002 9:04:54 AM PST by blam
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To: blam
Flood Stories From Around The World
36 posted on 01/05/2002 9:08:19 AM PST by blam
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To: Frances_Marion
They are pretty conclusively and easily linked to the post-Ice Age flooding at the end of the last glaciation. As a Catholic I have no problem placing Noah around 10,000 years ago and the "animals two by two" as early domesticants.

A meteor shower with significant global damage _does_ relate well to the world-wide "portents of destruction in the sky" myths.

37 posted on 01/05/2002 9:15:46 AM PST by Abn1508
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To: blam
bttt
38 posted on 01/05/2002 9:17:25 AM PST by farmfriend
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To: Abn1508
"A meteor shower with significant global damage _does_ relate well to the world-wide "portents of destruction in the sky" myths."

If you like this, read the book Exodus To Arthur, by professor Mike Baillie. Great book.

39 posted on 01/05/2002 9:22:44 AM PST by blam
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To: blam
BUMP
40 posted on 01/05/2002 9:27:19 AM PST by aruanan
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To: blam
Have you read The Cosmic Serpent by Victor Clube & Bill Napier? This fits in with the premise of that book. Unfortunately it's out of print, but another one by them, Catastrophes and Comets : The Destroyers of Cosmic Faith (World Scientific Series in Astronomy and Astrophysics , Vol 3), was to have been printed in Dec., 2001.
41 posted on 01/05/2002 9:40:26 AM PST by aruanan
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To: blam
Where's a two-mile wide meteor when you need one...I think that the "Middle East Culture" could use another round of wiping out...kinda like G_d's Etch-A-Sketch!
42 posted on 01/05/2002 10:00:14 AM PST by Itzlzha
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To: aruanan
"Have you read The Cosmic Serpent by Victor Clube & Bill Napier? "

I've read Cosmic Winter by Clube and Napier, Catastrophe by David Keys. My favorite is still Exodus To Arthur by Mike Baillie. (I'm a big fan of these cosmic theories for change)

43 posted on 01/05/2002 10:15:14 AM PST by blam
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To: ALASKA
Unfortunately, I bet meteors are like lightening, they never strike twice in the same place.

Take a look at the moon and some of the Jovian planets' moons like Callisto sometimes .... you'll see PLENTY of overlapped craters.

44 posted on 01/05/2002 10:19:57 AM PST by Centurion2000
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To: blam
Thanks. Something new.
45 posted on 01/05/2002 10:29:41 AM PST by Oxylus
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To: blam
All of these are in various libraries here on campus and none is checked out. There are 4 books here by Baillie, three having to do with dendrochronology.
46 posted on 01/05/2002 10:45:45 AM PST by aruanan
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To: aruanan
"All of these are in various libraries here on campus and none is checked out. There are 4 books here by Baillie, three having to do with dendrochronology."

Baillie is an Irish dendrochronologist. He noticed five sudden severe climate events (some have called them 'near extinction' events) at 3195BC, 2354BC, 1628BC, 1159BC and 540AD (Two more minor events at 207BC and 44BC). All these events (except the 540AD event) are recorded in the Ice Core data. He thinks the 540AD event, Dark Ages, (and possibly others) is the result of comet activity. I like the way he ties known historical data to these events.

TALE OF ARTHUR POINTS TO COMET CATASTROPHE

From The Times, 9 September 2000
http://www.the-times.co.uk
BY NICK NUTTALL

Arthur: myth links him to fire from the sky

THE story of the death of King Arthur and its references to a wasteland may have been inspired by the apocalyptic effects of a giant comet bombarding the Earth in AD540, leading to the Dark Ages, a British scientist said yesterday.

The impacts filled the atmosphere with dust and debris; a long winter began. Crops failed, and there was famine, Dr Mike Baillie of Queen's University, Belfast, told the British Association for the Advancement of Science. There was now overwhelming evidence from studies of tree rings of a catastrophic climate change at that time, he said.

Dr Baillie, who is based at the university's school of archaeology and palaeoecology, said studies of Irish oaks showed that the climate suddenly became inhospitable around AD540. Other researchers had discovered the same narrow rings on trees in places such as Germany, Scandinavia, Siberia, North America and China. "For all these trees to show the same rings at the same time means it must have been a profoundly unpleasant event, a catastrophic environmental downturn, in AD540, which is in or at the beginning of the Dark Ages."

The tightly bound rings are consistent with fierce frosts that would have devastated agriculture and made a malnourished population more vulnerable to the plague of 542, which killed millions. Plague-carrying rats and pests would have been looking for sustenance, thus hastening the spread of the disease.

Dr Baillie said that there were several theories as to the explanation. One was that a vast volcano had erupted and pumped huge amounts of dust into the atmosphere. Yet such a volcano "would have been out of all proportion to ones we see in recent times", he said, adding that the geological records bore no trace of it.

The other theory, he said,was that huge fragments from a giant comet had hit the Earth, causing violent explosions and a dramatic cooling of the planet. "My view is that we had a cometary bombardment - not a full-blown comet, or we would not be here, but parts of a comet."

Dr Baillie said the hypothesis was supported by studies by astronomers and astrophysicists including Mark Bailey, of the Armagh Observatory, Victor Clube, of Oxford University, and Bill Napier, formerly of the Royal Observatory in Edinburgh. They had calculated that there was a strong likelihood that the Earth suffered a cometary bombardment between 400 and 600, based on records of high meteor shower activity. They had linked it with the break-up of the comet Biela.

It was hoped that scientists in Greenland would analyse ice cores for signs of cometary dust. They were soon to carry out chemical analysis for tree rings for similar clues.

Dr Baillie urged historians to examine the records for writings that may record the events. "You can read about the Justinian plague in conventional history books but you cannot read about the cometary bombardment. The trees single out an episode which can be best described as catastrophic, and it isn't there in written history."

There was, however, some support buried in mythological writings and other works. Roger of Wendover had referred in 540 or 541 to a "comet in Gaul so vast that the whole sky seemed on fire. In the same year there dropped real blood from the clouds . . . and a dreadful mortality ensued".

Dr Baillie also cited the death of King Arthur, which is dated to 537, 539 and 542 in various works, as establishing possible links with fire from the sky and destruction. Dr Baillie said that Arthur was linked in old Irish with CuChulainn, the sky god, who in turn was linked with the Celtic bright sky god Lugh variously described as "bright as the setting sun, comes up in the west, and of the mighty blows".

"The Arthurian stories with their Celtic antecedents of bright sky gods and 'wasteland' come with traditional dates for Arthur's death."

Dr Baillie said that the myths hinted strongly at a bombardment as the causes of an environmental downturn.

Copyright 2000, The Times Newspapers Ltd.

47 posted on 01/05/2002 1:09:28 PM PST by blam
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Someone needs to inform I. Velikovsky about this. It may fit in with his theories. parsy.
48 posted on 01/05/2002 1:18:19 PM PST by parsifal
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To: Centurion2000
Take a look at the moon and some of the Jovian planets' moons like Callisto sometimes .... you'll see PLENTY of overlapped craters.

You don't see many here though.

49 posted on 01/05/2002 1:33:33 PM PST by ALASKA
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To: blam
I just got Exodus to Arthur by Baillie. Thanks for pointing it out.
50 posted on 01/05/2002 1:43:19 PM PST by aruanan
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