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I Was a Commie Writer (My Experiences As American Correspondent For Krokodil Magazine In USSR)
Laissez Faire City Times ^ | January 6, 2002 | P.J. Gladnick

Posted on 01/06/2002 1:57:16 PM PST by PJ-Comix

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To: PJ-Comix
Yeah, that must be it. The last paragraph of that article brings up the possibility of "United States of Ralph".
21 posted on 01/06/2002 3:51:13 PM PST by l33t
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To: PJ-Comix; dwbh; MurryMom; damian5; TopQuark; Landru; Snow Bunny; Black Jade; ratcat; ChaseR
"Unlike most of the other periodicals in the Soviet Union that were used for toilet paper, Krokodil was cherished by the readers over there because within limits that magazine was allowed to satirize Soviet Society. BTW, I also knew my limits."

Sorry, my FRiend, I thought I was being transparently facetious as I am obviously quite impressed with yer endeavors overseas.

"Had they known that Ol' PJ was a "vicious rightwinger" they would never have allowed my writings in Krokodil (although Florentiev and the staffers would have appreciated it) so I kept my writings strictly non-political."

LOL...I know the process, mi amigo, as I have set up Dummy Accounts at both the Smirking Chimpster and DemonRAT Underground to write similarly subversive propaganda!!! BWAHAHAHA...ain't it fun givin' the Leftist TROLLS a bit of their own medicine?!!

"Sometimes being on a strictly first name basis isn't the best policy."

Perhaps...MUD

22 posted on 01/06/2002 3:52:10 PM PST by Mudboy Slim
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P.J., Russians have the tradition of the wise fool, kinda like Punch and Judy. If you want to speak out against the Czar (Stalin), the madman in the market speaks for all. what are you going to do with a mad man? (Kill Him, Stalin recognized this type of protest.)

Even the commies needed some type of feed back and the humor mags provided it.

23 posted on 01/06/2002 3:56:40 PM PST by Little Bill
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Terrific post, PJ.

Ridiculing the pompous commies -- their weapon then; ours now.

24 posted on 01/06/2002 4:08:19 PM PST by Interesting Times
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The title on the right: 'What's in the name for you?' It is a famous quote from many sources, most likly - from late comedian Arkady Raikin. Freegards. You don't want the reverse translation of the articles, do you? LOL.
25 posted on 01/06/2002 4:16:11 PM PST by Former_russian
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Thank you for the ping to this Ragtime Cowgirl.

PJ-Comix this is so interesting. Thank you !!!!!!

26 posted on 01/06/2002 4:31:26 PM PST by Snow Bunny
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Very cool!
27 posted on 01/06/2002 4:59:36 PM PST by John Farson
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FYI
28 posted on 01/06/2002 5:05:31 PM PST by PJ-Comix
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Thanks for the heads up! };^D)
29 posted on 01/06/2002 5:09:29 PM PST by RJayneJ
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Great article. Let us know if you find Leonid Florentiev.
30 posted on 01/06/2002 5:20:45 PM PST by Rebelbase
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Great article. Let us know if you find Leonid Florentiev.

I just forwarded the article to Pravda and asked if they might know the whereabouts of Florentiev.

31 posted on 01/06/2002 6:03:39 PM PST by PJ-Comix
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You're very welcome, Sweetie. Wasn't the Californian commie-wannabes' reaction to the pro-American Soviet priceless?! LOL!
"Mr. Florentiev, could you say something bad about American society?" (rep. of the ACLU?)?
"NO!"

Yep, it's just as good the second time around. (((Hugs)))
32 posted on 01/06/2002 6:55:34 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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Awesome, dude!

Krokodil was quite a schizo publication in its time. On the one hand, it was (supposedly) satirizing the Soviet status quo. On the other, it happily served as a a full fledged state propaganda organ viciously attacking the West and any ideas trickling from there into USSR. How exactly that worked out internally at the editorial offices is anybody's in this side guess. It was in its time simultaneously loved and despised in Russia.

Further, unlike the Americans, Europeans and Russians know how to appreciate satire without the laugh tracks. The proof is that even the stupid peasant and prole leaders of the Party feared magazines like Krokodil and understood if not its humor then certainly its role. Contrast that with the responses here to your or Christopher Buckley's satirical posts.

Also, you can never be sure how your articles were translated or received there. All too often there were cheap political points to be scored and political favours to be gained from assuming correct postures. You can't imagine what hoops the editor you met had to jump through to prove his worth and "earn" the trip to the West. It all sounds cynical, but Communism was a totally corrupt, vile system.

33 posted on 01/06/2002 7:23:36 PM PST by Revolting cat!
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BTTT
34 posted on 01/06/2002 8:26:07 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: Revolting cat!
How exactly that worked out internally at the editorial offices is anybody's in this side guess.

My guess is that they had to stick close to the party line just a few years earlier but in the latter years of the Soviet Union, all sorts of people were going "off reservation" so to speak. I'm sure the KGB guy with the group was there primarily to pick up Western goodies for resale in Russia than to actually make sure the group stuck to the tenents of Marxism-Communism.

Further, unlike the Americans, Europeans and Russians know how to appreciate satire without the laugh tracks. The proof is that even the stupid peasant and prole leaders of the Party feared magazines like Krokodil and understood if not its humor then certainly its role. Contrast that with the responses here to your or Christopher Buckley's satirical posts.

True. Whenever I post something about worshipping that great satirical genius, Jack Chick, I have people replying in outrage. (Tossing out a bit of clueless bait here.)

35 posted on 01/07/2002 2:46:20 AM PST by PJ-Comix
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I did an extensive online search for Leonid Florentiev but still no luck. Maybe the publication of this article will bring him out of the woodwork.
36 posted on 01/07/2002 4:53:43 AM PST by PJ-Comix
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The only Russian joke I know:

A man walked to the Kremlin in 1954 and yelled "Death to Stalin" and they threw him in the gulag for 10 years. When he got out after 10 years, he decided to offer restitution and walked to the Kremlin and yelled "Long Live Stalin".

They gave him 20 years.

37 posted on 01/07/2002 5:17:24 AM PST by AppyPappy
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I am wondering if Pikker humor magazine in Estonia is still around. One interesting thing about Estonia is that the language there is very similar to Finnish. Hungarian is also related to Estonian and Finnish. Go figure.
38 posted on 01/07/2002 6:30:26 AM PST by PJ-Comix
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Do you happen to know why and when Krokodil folded? Has anything replaced it? Commercial reasons? I imagine it had been subsidized by the state if it wasn't profitable (although with 10 mil copies, why not?) and the new state won't subsidize it. We've got to remember that in the Soviet Union there was little if any advertising, and probably none inside Krokodil. Ah, the joys of subsidized satire! Only in paradise!
39 posted on 01/07/2002 7:43:47 AM PST by Revolting cat!
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Super interesting story. Thanks for sharing it.
40 posted on 01/07/2002 8:02:31 AM PST by Fred Mertz
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