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Got Water? - 2002 and Beyond
Sierra Times ^ | 1/8/01 | Bucket Brigade

Posted on 01/08/2002 8:12:33 PM PST by nunya bidness

Congressman Walden and Senator Gordon Smith flew on Air Force One with President Bush prior to the president’s address in Portland. According to Congressman Walden, the focus of much of their discussion was the challenge associated with natural resources issues in Oregon, with emphasis on the 2001 Klamath Basin crisis. The local farming community is still reeling from devastating effects of the April 6, 2001 decision precipitated by federal fishery agency decisions that resulted in zero water allocation from Upper Klamath Lake.

President Bush pledged to help Klamath Basin farmers during Saturday’s visit to Oregon. “I share their (Smith’s and Walden’s) concern about people living off the land. I told these two good men we’ll do everything we can to make sure water is available for people who farm,” Bush said.

Dan Keppen, Klamath Water Users Association new executive director will also speak during the forum. His presentation will include recent developments and policies that directly affect the water deliveries in the Klamath Basin.

Russ Brooks, Pacific Legal Foundation representative will discuss their efforts to challenge the Coho salmon listing.

A California Waterfowl Association representative will discuss the importance of Klamath Basin agriculture to the Pacific Flyway. He’ll outline their efforts to guarantee full water deliveries to farms and refuges in 2002 and the future.

The public is strongly encouraged to attend this informative event. It is especially important because under the current biological opinion guidelines, the Basin is not guaranteed water delivery even with current rains and 160% of average snow pack. The committee anticipates a crowd of 4000-5000.

The panel discussion will be followed by a barbecue that will feature - ironically - coho salmon donated to the Oregon Food Bank earlier this year by the Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife (ODFW). Although the Coho are listed as an endangered species on the Lower Klamath River, approximately 140,000 hatchery Coho salmon from coastal streams were killed and donated to the Food Bank in 2001. This year, ODFW requested that special attention be paid to the Klamath Falls area, where the irrigation cutoff and resulting economic damage made local farmers eligible for Food Bank donations. “Basin residents find it particularly ironic that they could not irrigate because of the Coho but they can stand in food lines to eat them.,” said Deb Crisp, Tulelake Growers Association Executive Director.

--The Klamath Basin Bucket Brigade Committee is a local grassroots organization that advocates for balance in the ecosystem which includes irrigation water for farming and ranching.


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1 posted on 01/08/2002 8:12:33 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: Jeff Head; farmfriend; brityank; MadameAxe; tex-oma; Issaquahking
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2 posted on 01/08/2002 8:13:24 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: nunya bidness
I hope they get this straightened out before spring. If we can free the Afghan people from the Taliban, you'd think we could free the American farmer from the eco-freaks.
3 posted on 01/08/2002 8:17:28 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: McGavin999
“Basin residents find it particularly ironic that they could not irrigate because of the Coho but they can stand in food lines to eat them.,” said Deb Crisp, Tulelake Growers Association Executive Director.

Toto, we're definitely not in Kansas any more.

4 posted on 01/08/2002 8:23:31 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: McGavin999
If Gore was still in power, I would have a solution. In 1999, Gore visited NH. The demoncratic Governor, Shaheen, had them release about 22Mgal of water so that Al could take a canoe trip down a river, without grounding.

Mind you, there were relatively nearby areas that were hurtin' for water. Not sure if there was a realistic way to shift water around, but still...

5 posted on 01/08/2002 8:24:32 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: nunya bidness
“I share their (Smith’s and Walden’s) concern about people living off the land. I told these two good men we’ll do everything we can to make sure water is available for people who farm,” Bush said.

Then it ought to be an easy fix:

Just open the headgates, Mr. President.

6 posted on 01/08/2002 8:29:15 PM PST by John R. (Bob) Locke
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To: John R. (Bob) Locke; AuntB
Just open the headgates, Mr. President.

Easier said than done. There's still that Biological Opinion due from the DOI that can't seem to get it's website up and hacker free.

Saturday will tell us what the powerbrokers have up their sleeves.

Just like they did when they scrambled for the mikes when the big bucket was set down in front of the county office building in Klamath.

Want to see how long I can hold my breath?

7 posted on 01/08/2002 8:34:14 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: nunya bidness
Damn. Wish I could be there.
8 posted on 01/08/2002 9:31:24 PM PST by MadameAxe
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To: MadameAxe
You and me both.
9 posted on 01/08/2002 9:36:52 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: nunya bidness
"I told these two good men we'll do everything we can to make sure water is available for people who farm."

That is a lie and Bush knows it. If he really wanted to do something, he could use another illegal executive order to call off the Feddogs and let the farmers have what is legally theirs.

10 posted on 01/09/2002 1:27:50 AM PST by wcbtinman
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To: wcbtinman
--it wouldn't be illegal. According to the constitution, the feds CAN seize property if it's in the nations interests, BUT, they have to pay for it. It's in black and white. It's easy to read and understand, it doesn't take a panel of appointed for life judges to 'interpret' it. All he has to do is cut loose with a check, or give the water back, one or the other, it's really, really, really that simple, it wouldn't require one bit of illegalites, it would be following the law. He is *not* following the law, congress has *not* followed the law, that fed judge went way out of her way to *not* follow the law, and his promise to them is a year late and still nothing more than typical politician vaporware.

We have become so used to the very lowest scummiest bottom of the barrel lying actions from our politicians in general that merely TALKING about doing anything legal or moral or ethical is cause for joyous celebration among the various partisans of this or that faction involved. This administration, the previous administration, and the one before that in particular. It's actually taken as something "positive", when it is still a non-action. "Talking" is not "doing". Truly a condemnation of the entire political system as it's run and enjoyed now. And also a condemnation of the governmental bureaucratic "work" force, badged or non-badged, who are so used to either ignoring laws or enforcing/facilitating illegal laws and spewed dictates that they have no idea what is just and proper anymore. if they do, it's ignored anyway. It's beyond disgusting. The solution is one-term limits for all governmental positions that are electable, and ZERO governmental pensioned jobs. Put the 'service' back into 'government service", make it something like ten years maximum employment, then back to the private sector. End career government employment at any level. those two steps would do more to free up the US and return to constitutional law than anything else I can think of. A third step would make it illegal for any corporation or organization to donate one penny for any campaign, hard or soft money. Make political donations come from individuals ONLY, and put a reasonable small cap on the limit, to end BRIBERY in government.

11 posted on 01/09/2002 4:00:00 AM PST by zog
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To: nunya bidness;amom;blackie;justamy;backhoe;auntB;SnowBunny;Billie
MEGA-BUMP nunya bidness and thank you for helping spread the word!

NORTHWEST FREEPERS

SPREAD THE WORD
BETTER YET, BE THER SATURDAY!

12 posted on 01/09/2002 6:25:48 AM PST by Issaquahking
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To: nunya bidness
BUMP
13 posted on 01/09/2002 6:34:59 AM PST by Issaquahking
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To: nunya bidness
Russ Brooks, Pacific Legal Foundation representative will discuss their efforts to challenge the Coho salmon listing.

This would be our Grange Suit.

under the current biological opinion guidelines, the Basin is not guaranteed water delivery even with current rains and 160% of average snow pack.

I hate to say it but being denied water again under these circumstances would really help our cause because it would negate the argument that there wasn't enough water. This would make the farmers martyrs. Very effective.

The Grange has filed another suit to list the Klamath Basin Agriculturalist as an Endangered Species.

14 posted on 01/09/2002 6:53:16 AM PST by farmfriend
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To: Issaquahking; chong, shotabug
I cannot be there; will a bump help?
15 posted on 01/09/2002 7:17:55 AM PST by JustAmy
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To: nunya bidness
Want to see how long I can hold my breath?

Don't do it! We need ya! ;o)

Easier said than done. There's still that Biological Opinion due from the DOI that can't seem to get it's website up and hacker free.

It could be just as easily done by being said. If the DOI (which answers to the President) comes to a conclusion that places the higher priority on the animals over the people, then the President could simply set it aside and do what we all know is the right thing.

But, I'm not gonna test my ability to hold MY breath on it!

16 posted on 01/09/2002 8:52:36 AM PST by John R. (Bob) Locke
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To: Issaquahking
Thanks so much for the heads up here.
17 posted on 01/09/2002 9:39:14 AM PST by amom
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To: Issaquahking
I'll be in Portland on that date.

It'll take GWB a little time to undo the harm that the wacko Enviro-Nazis terrorist's have created !!

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!

The Right Of The People To Keep And Bear Arms Shall Not Be Infringed !!

An Armed Citizen, Is A Safe Citizen !!

No Guns, No Rights !!

Molon Labe !!

18 posted on 01/09/2002 10:22:44 AM PST by blackie
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To: nunya bidness
Follow the yellow brick road??? Nunya, did you write this article.....I'm waiting for some more of your good work!
19 posted on 01/09/2002 10:25:57 AM PST by AuntB
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To: Clinton's a liar; muggs; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; Bump in the night; Jolly Rodgers; Phil V....
FYI - Thanks!
20 posted on 01/09/2002 3:09:31 PM PST by AuntB
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To: nunya bidness
Klamath Falls Research Thread 1

Klamath Falls Research Thread 2

Klamath Falls Research Thread 3

Klamath Falls Research Thread 4



21 posted on 01/09/2002 4:14:18 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: AuntB
No. Rocky and I are trying to put something together as a follow up.

Specifically Barb Martin's pending case.

It should be soon.

22 posted on 01/09/2002 5:59:57 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: zog
RE:Post 11

I haven't thought about them all the way through, but I like your suggestions

23 posted on 01/10/2002 8:28:14 AM PST by wcbtinman
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To: nunya bidness
We got Barb an interview with Lars Larson. He does a NW regional radio show. She'll be on Friday.

Our County Commis. Ric Holt managed to get a year reprieve on blowing our Elk Creek Dam. I was getting a bit nervous about my committment to stand on the stupid thing if they tried. I'm gettin' too old for this nunya, sure glad you are around to take over!!

24 posted on 01/10/2002 9:57:03 AM PST by AuntB
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To: AuntB
We got Barb an interview with Lars Larson. He does a NW regional radio show. She'll be on Friday.

Good. I listened to Lars when I was there.

He was the MC at the fairgrounds too.

Hopefully he'll get the word out. Let me know how it turns out.

25 posted on 01/10/2002 7:27:19 PM PST by nunya bidness
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