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DA requests Columbine inquest (Govt Still Tries To Coverup,Avoid Grand Jury, Ballistics Report Also)
Denver Rocky Mountain News, CBS, AP, News 7 / The Denver Channel ^ | January 15, 2002 | Kevin Vaughan, Jeff Kass, Jim Avila,

Posted on 01/15/2002 1:50:07 PM PST by t-shirt

DA requests Columbine inquest

January 15, 2002

But Rohrbough's dad swiftly asks for delay so victims' families can pursue other options

By Kevin Vaughan and Jeff Kass, News Staff Writers

Jefferson County District Attorney Dave Thomas on Monday formally requested a coroner's inquest to investigate the death of Columbine High School student Daniel Rohrbough. Just as quickly, however, the boy's father said he will ask Coroner Carl Blesch to delay any decision on the inquest until he and other families can finish pursuing other options, including a federal grand jury and a legislative investigation.

"We see this only as a last resort," Brian Rohrbough said.

Blesch said he expected to decide by Thursday whether to follow through on Thomas' request. Blesch said he welcomes any input from the Rohrbough family as he considers the proposal.

Daniel's parents have alleged that a Denver police officer, Sgt. Dan O'Shea, mistakenly shot and killed the 15-year-old in the chaos at the school after Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold opened fire on their classmates on April 20, 1999.

O'Shea has steadfastly denied the shooting, and, speaking from the front door of his home Monday night, told a reporter, "When the facts of this case come out, you're going to realize I did it right."

An inquest would be carried out by six jurors who would have subpoena power and would be able to take testimony under oath.

Daniel's mother, Sue Petrone, said she was interested in anything that pursues the truth. But she said she is not ready to give up on options other than the inquest.

Jefferson County sheriff's spokeswoman Jacki Tallman said her office had not been formally notified of the request.

However, she said, "We support any decision by the district attorney's office and the coroner regarding the coroner's inquest into Danny Rohrbough's death."

Daniel's parents alleged in a lawsuit filed in April 2000 that a law officer's bullet killed the boy. On Nov. 27, a federal judge dismissed a number of Columbine lawsuits, including the one filed by Daniel's family.

On Dec. 26, the Rohrbough family and the parents of four other Columbine victims filed papers in federal court to revive their lawsuits, naming O'Shea as Daniel's killer. They also cited 29 instances in which they claimed that Jefferson County authorities lied to them.

Over the past few weeks, the controversy has simmered.

A deputy who claimed he saw Daniel die -- a claim that was used to support the allegations against O'Shea -- denied making the statements. He was then fired after the families played a tape recording of a conversation with the officer.

Arapahoe County Sheriff Pat Sullivan concluded that the deputy lied to Daniel's family. However, the boy's parents continue to believe that he told them the truth.

They have pushed for a new investigation into the boy's death and a number of inconsistencies in the official version of events presented in the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office's report on Columbine.

Among the options they've pursued is a grand jury, which would have the power to subpoena witnesses and documents, to take testimony under oath and to issue an indictment if it found that a crime had been committed.

However, there is also a drawback: Grand juries are secret proceedings; if no indictment is issued, it's likely that nothing would ever be learned about the investigation.

A coroner's inquest, however, would be an open proceeding used to determine the cause and manner of the boy's death.

The cause is not in dispute: Daniel suffered three gunshot wounds from a 9 mm weapon.

However, two of the bullets -- including the one that inflicted the fatal wound -- passed through his body and were never positively identified.

And the parents have questioned the conclusion that Klebold, after he or Harris first wounded Daniel in the leg, walked down a flight of 22 concrete steps and killed the boy with two shots at close range. Those wounds entered the left side of his chest.

The family believes that Daniel, who fell facedown on the ground, was shot by an officer while running away from Klebold and Harris.

Brian Rohrbough said the openness of an inquest is desirable in some respects but also has a key drawback. If a coverup is afoot, he said, it would be easier for those testifying to know what others have said before them.

"If it is the last option, it is still an option," he said. "However, what it is right now is an attempt to distract us from looking into the corruption that has taken place in law enforcement before, during and after Columbine."

He and other families have pointed to the handling of a report made more than a year before Columbine that Harris and Klebold were building pipe bombs and talking about mass murder. Even though sheriff's investigators prepared a search warrant, they never served it.

Pam Russell, Thomas' spokeswoman, would not release a copy of the prosecutor's request to Blesch. However, she described it as a one-page letter.

It would be up to Blesch to determine whether Thomas would play any role in an inquest, such as the legal counsel to the coroner, Russell said.

Russell said Thomas did not tell Blesch that the request was coming Monday but has discussed it with him for almost two weeks.

"Whether or not he chooses to convene an inquest is up to him," Russell said.

"It's really just the logical next step in a situation where the manner and cause of death are being questioned," she said.

She added, "It's just everything surrounding this case; people are being accused and tried in the media."

Russell said there was no one thing that sparked Thomas to ask for the inquest. But one appeal was the public nature of proceedings.

"Questions will be asked in the public arena," she said.

Russell noted that certain details -- such as whether an inquest would be in a courtroom -- have not been answered.

Russell said one reason Thomas did not convene a grand jury is because of the need for evidence of criminal conduct.

"We don't believe we have evidence of criminal conduct at this time," she said.

Russell noted that the scope of any coroner's inquest is very limited. It looks into the cause and manner of death.

The inquest attempts to determine whether the manner of death was homicide, suicide, natural causes or accidental. It can also conclude the manner is undetermined.

"It's not an end-all," she said. "It's a piece" of the investigation.

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Controversy survives Columbine Parents of student victim want to know who shot the bullet The tragedy at Columbine High School still echoes for the family of one victim--they suspect he might have been killed by friendly fire. NBC's Jim Avila reports.

By Jim Avila

NBC NEWS

DENVER, Jan. 9 — A tragedy that happened almost three years ago still echoes for the family of one of its victims. Fifteen-year-old Danny Rohrbaugh was shot and killed during the massacre at Columbine High School in Littleton, Co. Now, the circumstances of his death have been called into painful question, based on what a sheriff’s deputy claimed was an eyewitness account.

IT’S an awful memory. On April 20, 1999, two students murdered 13 people and wounded 20 more — most of them other students — then killed themselves. Since that terrible day 33 months ago, the parents of 15-year-old Daniel Rohrbaugh have asked one question. Who killed their son? “I just want to know the truth about how he died,” says Sue Petrone, Daniel’s mother. But from the beginning, authorities say, Sheriff’s Deputy Jim Taylor has been lying to them, feeding suspicion that Daniel was killed by friendly fire and not as law enforcement officials concluded: directly at the hands of Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. On Wednesday, Deputy Taylor was fired, charged with lying and misleading Daniel’s parents about their son’s death. “His statements may have planted the seeds that have led to much of the distress by the crime victims family,” says Arapahoe County Sheriff Pat Sullivan, Jr. Deputy Jim Taylor refused NBC’s request for an interview and has never publicly claimed to have seen anything. At first he even denied that he shared any direct knowledge about Daniel with his parents. But the Rohrbaughs had proof. They had secretly tape recorded his claims. From the tape: “They were just running in mass chaos and I seen a boy drop...” “You think it was Dan though or you don’t know?” “It was Dan.” On the tapes, Taylor claimed that he was in the middle of the action, in position to see Daniel die, on the steps just outside the cafeteria. Putting himself in the southwest parking lot, within 100 yards of Daniel’s body, he said he saw the teenager fall when hit by a bullet that seemed to come from the parking lot — where police were shooting, not the building where Klebold and Harris were. Advertisement

But Taylor now admits (Admits or claims under extreme pressure from the government and Sheriff???--my comments)that he was nowhere near any of the shooting, that he was assigned to evacuating students on the east side of the building completely blocked from the sights and sounds of the massacre.

“He was never in a position to see Danny fall or anybody else fall from gunfire,” says Sullivan.

But the Rohrbaughs still believe the first story. Adding to their suspicions is the lack of solid ballistic evidence tying Klebold and Harris to Daniel’s murder. Tests on the lone bullet found in Daniel’s body could not link it to a specific gun.

Daniel’s parents have even filed suit, naming Denver SWAT team member Daniel O’Shea as the man who shot their son. Their evidence is an affidavit from a school principal saying she overheard O’Shea upset about possibly shooting an innocent student.

But O’Shea has been cleared by investigators, and five students near Daniel as he died told the FBI in sworn statements they personally saw Klebold and Harris shoot him. That leaves Daniel’s parents where they began 33 months ago, with the credibility of their biggest ally in doubt — and fired — while they still search for truth.

“I was watching the news and this spokesperson for Jefferson county said, ‘It’s irrelevant who shot Danny Rohrbaugh.’” says Sue Petrone. “It’s irrelevant. Well, it’s not irrelevant to me.”

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Prosecutors Seek Columbine Inquest

Was Slain Student Shot By A Police Officer?

GOLDEN, Colo., Jan. 15, 2002

CBS

(AP) Prosecutors have requested a coroner's inquest into the death of a Columbine High School student whose parents claim was accidentally killed by an officer during the 1999 massacre.

Daniel Rohrbough's parents say he was shot by a Denver SWAT team member who rushed to the school after teen gunmen Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold began their April 20, 1999, assault. The sheriff's report on the shooting says Rohrbough was shot by Klebold.

Coroner Carl Blesch said he hoped to decide on the inquest request by Thursday.

Barry Arrington, the parents' lawyer, said Monday he would ask the coroner to delay an inquest until other investigative methods have been exhausted.

He said he favors the creation of a legislative commission that could issue subpoenas and take testimony in private, allowing witnesses to be more candid.

Jefferson County District Attorney Dave Thomas had earlier declined to call a grand jury. He said the coroner would have subpoena power, though not as extensive as a grand jury.

Daniel's father, Brian Rohrbough, said the call for an inquest "is simply one more way to try to derail our efforts at finding the truth."

Relatives of Columbine victims also have asked for a federal grand jury to investigate the slayings of 12 students and one teacher.

Jeff Dorschner, spokesman for the U.S. attorney's office in Denver, said the decision to request an inquest would not affect whether a grand jury would be convened.

Rohrbough claimed Denver police Sgt. Dan O'Shea told a school administrator he feared he may have shot a student, according to court papers.

But O'Shea's lawyer, David Bruno, said his client didn't shoot anyone at Columbine and that the conversation with the administrator was misheard.

"What he said was, when there's a crowded building and shots are fired, his greatest fear is that he shot somebody," Bruno said.

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DA Requests Coroner's Inquest In Columbine Death Coroner To Announce Decision On Inquest Thursday Wayne Harrison, Senior News Editor Posted: 3:38 p.m. MST January 14, 2002 Updated: 6:22 p.m. MST January 14, 2002 GOLDEN, Colo. -- The Jefferson County district attorney has requested a coroner's inquest into the death of Columbine student Daniel Rohrbough. Julie Hayden reports on the DA's request for an inquest. Tony Kovaleski explains how a Coroner's Inquest works. See What Ballistics Report Shows On this here:

Thew Denver Channel

Thomas issued a request for the investigation Monday afternoon. He said the inquest -- which can be similar to a trial -- would be held in public and would look into claims Rohrbough was shot by police at Columbine High School.

A Monday afternoon release from his office stated:

"In light of the considerable public controversy concerning the means and manner of his death, the district attorney believes that a coroner's inquest might serve to answer some of the questions being raised. While an inquest is very limited in scope, it would be an open proceeding and, therefore, Thomas believes, of great value to the interested parties."

An attorney for Rohrbough and five other families had asked Thomas for a grand jury investigation. Thomas said an inquest might be a better way to answer questions for the family and the public. A grand jury is held in secret.

Jefferson County Coroner Carl Blesch has said he would consider an inquest if family members or authorities request it. He said he would announce his decision about the district attorney's request at a Thursday afternoon news conference.

The governor's Columbine Commission, which investigated the Columbine shootings, didn't have subpoena powers and the coroner's inquest would. Jefferson County sheriff John Stone refused to appear before the Columbine Commission, but could be compelled to appear at the coroner's inquest.

A coroner's inquest would only investigate the manner of death, according to 7NEWS Investigative Reporter Tony Kovaleski. He talked with Blesch about just such a possibility last week, he said.

Investigators said teen gunmen Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold killed 12 students, including Rohrbough, and a teacher before killing themselves on April 20, 1999.

After meeting with the Arapahoe County sheirff last Friday, Brian Rohrbough said he was convinced more than ever that is was a law enforcement officer, and not Columbine gunmen, who killed his son (pictured, right).

According to the Rohrboughs, Daniel Rohrbough's autopsy showed that he was killed by a bullet that was fired from the front in an upward trajectory, 7NEWS reported.

The Rohrboughs said that the ballistics map showed that there were no shell casings from Harris or Klebold in the area where the shot was fired.

However, there were three 9 mm shell casings found near Daniel Rohrbough's body that belonged to Denver SWAT Officer Dan O'Shea, Brian Rohrbough said, and that given that evidence, Harris and Klebold were not in a position to kill their son, but O'Shea was.

"If it was a mistake, tell us it was a mistake," Brian Rohrbough said Friday . "If we are mistaken, show us we are mistaken. But let's get to the bottom of what happened that day at Columbine."

Brian Rohrbough said it took two years for the Jefferson County Sheriff's Department to hand over the ballistics maps because he said authorities were trying to cover up what they know.

Relatives of Columbine victims also have asked for a federal grand jury to investigate the slayings of 12 students and one teacher.

Jeff Dorschner, spokesman for the U.S. attorney's office in Denver, said the decision to request an inquest would have no impact on whether a grand jury would be convened.

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Columbine Parent Releases Ballistics Report

Rohrbough Meets With Arapahoe County Sheriff

Posted: 8:43 a.m. MST January 11, 2002

Updated: 7:40 p.m. MST January 11, 2002

LITTLETON, Colo. -- After meeting with the Arapahoe County Sheriff on Friday, Brian Rohrbough said he was convinced more than ever that is was a law enforcement officer, and not Columbine gunmen, who killed his son Danny Rohrbough.

In fact, he released a new ballistics report that he said proves his case.

According to the Rohrboughs, Danny Rohrbough's autopsy showed that he was killed by a bullet that was fired from the front in an upward trajectory, 7NEWS reported.

"What's in front of Danny Rohrbough? Law enforcment shell casings," Rohrbough's attorney Barry Arrington said.

The Rohrboughs said that the ballistics map showed that there were no shell casings from Harris or Klebold in the area where the shot was fired.

However, there were three 9 mm shell casings found near Danny's body that belonged to Denver SWAT officer Dan O'Shea, Rohrbough said. Rohrbough said that given that evidence, Harris and Klebold were not in a position to kill their son, but O'Shea was.

"If it was a mistake, tell us it was a mistake," Rohrbough said. "If we are mistaken, show us we are mistaken. But let's get to the bottom of what happened that day at Columbine."

But O'Shea said he did not shoot anyone at Columbine. He said Danny Rohrbough was already dead when he arrived at the school.

The shell casings the Rohrboughs are talking about came from shots O'Shea said he fired after he crept down the hill to provide cover for another officer checking Dan's body.

But Rohrboughs don't believe it. Rohrbough and several other Columbine families accuse law enforcement of lying about what really happened at Columbine High School during the April 1999 massacre.

The Rohrboughs said it took two years for the Jefferson County Sheriff's Department to hand over the ballistics maps because they said authorities were trying to cover-up what they know.

The lastest controversy involved an Arapahoe County deputy sheriff who gave two conflicting accounts of what he saw that day.

During a taped conversation in March 2000, Deputy Jim Taylor told the Rohrbough family that he saw their son Danny get shot. The Rohrboughs claim that Taylor's statements prove that a Denver SWAT officer fired the fatal bullet that killed their son, and not Harris or Klebold.

The family met with Arapahoe County Sheriff Pat Sullivan on Friday to discuss his decision to fire Taylor.

Rohrbough said Sullivan didn't even ask to hear a tape the family has of Taylor telling them he was standing next to a Denver policeman during the 1999 massacre at Columbine when he heard machine gun fire and saw a student fall. Taylor said he was later able to determine that the student was Daniel.

Sullivan has said radio logs and other evidence show Taylor wasn't even there at the time. Sullivan fired Taylor for giving conflicting reports to investigators and the Rohrbough family.

The Rohrboughs described the one-hour meeting as "standoffish" and said that they are more convinced than ever that law enforcement is trying to cover up, 7NEWS reporter Julie Hayden said.

Jefferson County sheriff's detectives maintain that the 15-year-old was killed by Klebold, who along with Harris, stormed Columbine High School.

The U.S. attorney is considering a federal grand jury to investigate what happened the day of the massacre, but said that it's unlikely because no federal laws were broken.

The County district attorney said a state grand jury is an option. So is a coroner's inquest.

A state lawmaker said Thursday that if the courts don't get involved. He will move to form a legislative committee with subpoena powers to get answers.

"Not necessarily to find wrongdoing not necessarily to find the witch, so to speak, but to clear the air … find out what the truth is," said Rep. Don Lee, a Littleton Republican.

Lee also said that if it does go to a legislative committee it would have to happen before the session ends in May.

Columbine Report Under Lock And Key

Meanwhile, school officials are trying to keep private a report on an internal investigation into the Columbine High School shootings.

Jefferson County school officials conducted the in-depth investigation as they prepared to defend themselves from families' lawsuits.

The lawsuits have been dismissed. But the report is locked away.

It is protected by state laws that keep most attorney-client communications confidential.

School district attorney Bill Kowalski said officials want to protect the rights of people named in the lawsuit.

The report includes school records and interviews with Columbine staff members who knew the student gunmen.

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Important other Recent Columbine threads below:

(Breaking):Federal Columbine Probe Sought (JudgingBy WACO,OKC,TWA800, Feds 'ill Really Cover it Up!)

Deputy Admits to Columbine Tape [Admits its Him on Tape Saying Saw Student Shot,Yet Denies Its True!

Investigating the 'Lies' (29 Major Lies By Govt' In Columbine MassMurder Coverup)(Denver Newspaper)
This story list facts, evidence and admissions by the government(and agents) to prove the numerous lies and coverup by the government, SWAT Team, Police, Sheriff, and Deputies.

(Breaking:Governor)Owens Calls for Columbine Grand Jury (Students "Gunned By" Swat,+KleboldAutopsy)

Columbine parents reveal tape - Recording proves officer saw son shot, they say

Prosecutor rejects calls for grand jury over allegations police shot Columbine student

Sheriff May Block Columbine Police Shooting Probe



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Pray for truth and justice for these families.
1 posted on 01/15/2002 1:50:07 PM PST by t-shirt
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To: archy;Uncle Bill;Alamo-Girl;expose;brat;dead;XBob;Patriot76;DoughtyOne;ChaseR;Snow Bunny...
This thread linked below is the most important recent story to see to understand the level the government has went to lie and coverup in this case.

(And it shows how culpable the government was for allowing it to happen with prior knowledge and inaction.)

Investigating the 'Lies' (29 Major Lies By Govt' In Columbine MassMurder Coverup)(Denver Newspaper)

2 posted on 01/15/2002 1:57:58 PM PST by t-shirt
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BUMP
3 posted on 01/15/2002 2:02:12 PM PST by horsewhispersc
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To: t-shirt
Boy this has turned into a stinker.
4 posted on 01/15/2002 2:12:25 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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Another recent thread:Columbine family meets with sheriff {build case that officer killed their son}

5 posted on 01/15/2002 2:15:33 PM PST by t-shirt
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To: ambrose; copycat;chainsaw;jeremiah;Inspector Harry Callahan;RLK;Judge Parker;Amerika;cksharks...
Tape Disputes Sheriff's Columbine Account

Former Columbine Student Says Classes Caused Her Suicide Attempt (Columbine Killers Were Steeped in 'Death Awareness' Education)

Living in Littleton: Columbine, Christians and Cops (A Columbine Father's Opinion)

Anti-gun tie to Columbine???

What Really Happened At Columbine?

Just say yes to Ritalin! Parents are being pressured by schools to medicate their kids -- or else.

Columbine Killers Hated Christians, Jesus

6 posted on 01/15/2002 2:33:56 PM PST by t-shirt
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The more I read of this the more I honestly believe that a cop shot the kid.
7 posted on 01/15/2002 2:38:24 PM PST by PatrioticAmerican
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truth and justice bump
8 posted on 01/15/2002 2:46:19 PM PST by t-shirt
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To: PatrioticAmerican
That's what the evidence shows.
9 posted on 01/15/2002 2:46:56 PM PST by t-shirt
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To: Dane
We need some lame defense of their actions please
10 posted on 01/15/2002 2:49:45 PM PST by Nov3
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Justice bump
11 posted on 01/15/2002 2:54:14 PM PST by Dust in the Wind
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Coverup like WACO
12 posted on 01/15/2002 3:01:51 PM PST by expose
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--and ya know what? I bet if the sheriffs office had just routinely come clean with the info, even if it implicated the deputy, and the deputy had sincerely apologised and fessed up, that the parents would have said something like " OK, we're hurt, but we understand what happened. thankyou, we understand it was a terrible moment on a terrible day"-something like that, and nothing more would have happened. I imagine they just want to know what's what, and would have understood heat of the moment and a mistake. I don't think they believe that the deputy delibarately targeted some random kid in general to shoot, but after all this time and the stonewalling, they got whizzed off. People are funny, they can take some crap if they aren't lied to about it, what's the old adage, don't whiz on my back and tell me it's raining? Applies in this case, and in so many other cases as well. all government needs to do is to admit it screws up once in awhile, not this perpetual "who,me???" deal they pull..
13 posted on 01/15/2002 3:03:47 PM PST by zog
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Tshirt - you have been doggedly persistent on the Columbine atrocity. Thank you. I don't have time to read through all your links. Is there anybody who can congeal it all down to about a dozen bullets?

I have contended from the day of the Columbine tragedy that what happened that day HAD TO BE set up with the complicity of Sheriff Stone and the FBI agents or other agents in charge that day.

The facts that have come out since then only serve to confirm that contention.

I have always ONLY wanted truth and justice for the families of the victims - and for AMERICA!

I applaud the family members who, unlike so many of the victims of the Clinton years, have not been bribed or intimidated into silence.

Their efforts will one day be rewarded - by God's grace!

Perhaps, then, their terrible sufferings will help bring down the crime machine's reign of terror on this country. (The crime machine is not just the Clinton administration - but the entire Demoncratic Nazi "Party" that is about to destroy this nation.) Prayers for these family members and for the truth to be made known continue!

14 posted on 01/15/2002 3:05:00 PM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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Please keep me posted. Thank you for the flag.
15 posted on 01/15/2002 3:09:20 PM PST by Prodigal Daughter
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16 posted on 01/15/2002 3:13:07 PM PST by Free the USA
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Thanks, be sure to click onto the link on post number 2 above and read all the lies and coverup by the government told in this case.
17 posted on 01/15/2002 3:16:02 PM PST by t-shirt
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Read the thread linked on post number 2 above.

It shows lie after lie and coverup after coverup by the government.

18 posted on 01/15/2002 3:19:51 PM PST by t-shirt
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To: t-shirt
Thank you! I'll read it all.
19 posted on 01/15/2002 3:26:02 PM PST by Prodigal Daughter
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For your reading list.
20 posted on 01/15/2002 3:27:36 PM PST by Prodigal Daughter
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Thanks for the flag, t-shirt. I read some of this now and am bookmarking it to finish later. Don't take me off your list on this one. You have done a great job and this has all the markings of something rotten as hell.
21 posted on 01/15/2002 3:27:42 PM PST by riley1992
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Law enforcement officers are not going to incriminate themselves.

They are going to hide behind their tin badges and the immunity clause.

All of the officers who responded to Columbine High School should be FIRED AND BANNED FROM FUTURE LAW ENFORCEMENT JOBS!

THEY ARE, BEYOND A DOUBT, AMERICA'S GREATEST EXAMPLE OF COWARDICE!

22 posted on 01/15/2002 3:27:59 PM PST by ASTM366
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Pray for truth and justice for these families.

Thanks for the bump. Truth may be all they can ask for, but I don't understand why it's so difficult.

23 posted on 01/15/2002 3:34:28 PM PST by SJackson
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Thanks for the bump. Truth may be all they can ask for, but I don't understand why it's so difficult.

23 posted on 1/15/02 4:34 PM Pacific by SJackson

Because truth would expose that this atrocity as allowed to happen by the government. And that would not promote the Gun Control/Gun Confiscation Agenda of the government and the socialists.

24 posted on 01/15/2002 3:40:36 PM PST by t-shirt
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"I have contended from the day of the Columbine tragedy that what happened that day HAD TO BE set up with the complicity of Sheriff Stone and the FBI agents or other agents in charge that day." Clinton agents in charge, that day. These cops could be held accountable if the feds weren't so involved in local policing in our communities. It's going to get worse.
25 posted on 01/15/2002 3:40:57 PM PST by monkeywrench
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If the inquest shows that the officer did not do anything wrong you will be the first one to apoligize to the officer in public on national forums? RIGHT
26 posted on 01/15/2002 3:42:40 PM PST by cksharks
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To: Nov3;DoughtyOne;zog;Mercuria;AnnaZ;expose;horsewhispersc;freedom007;Lurker;Free Vulcan
Wow A fed-free/lackey-free thread???

LOL!

27 posted on 01/15/2002 3:45:39 PM PST by t-shirt
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If the inquest shows that the officer did not do anything wrong you will be the first one to apoligize to the officer in public on national forums? RIGHT

26 posted on 1/15/02 4:42 PM Pacific by cksharks

No, not at all, I have no faith in an inquest done by a single coroner on the government payroll, nor do the families nor I suspect does the staff of the Rocky Mountain News.

I trust such an inquest about as much as I'd trust a coroner in Arkansas named Malaik who said a head nearly decapitied was a suicide.

28 posted on 01/15/2002 3:49:41 PM PST by t-shirt
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I would like to speak to this deputy named Taylor to ask him why he changed his tape recorded story and eyewitness testimony .
29 posted on 01/15/2002 3:51:39 PM PST by t-shirt
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For the , I can't remember just how many, but MANY times I've asked, but been ignored ; again, please remove me from your ping list. Thank you.
30 posted on 01/15/2002 4:01:31 PM PST by nopardons
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To: t-shirt
Thanks, T. Good work keeping all this coming. You know, the more this gets stirred the more it stinks.
31 posted on 01/15/2002 4:06:06 PM PST by Twodees
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To: t-shirt
Thanks for the ping. I cannot even imagine having to go through this as a parent.

This Taylor guy, I'm wondering what's up with him. Is it possible that he is an unstable sort of person and just was talking out of the side of his mouth on that tape? Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending anyone here. I think it matters, though, what kind of person this Taylor fellow is. I don't think it's impossible that information is misleading on both sides.

32 posted on 01/15/2002 6:13:02 PM PST by Boxsford
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To: t-shirt
Thanks for the heads up!
33 posted on 01/15/2002 6:48:16 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Boxsford
Taylor was fired, not for changing his testimony, or other such nonsense. He was fired for telling the truth in the first place (that a fellow officer had shot an innocent student) and thereby blowing a multi-agency coverup.

O'Shea, who recklessly fired an automatic weapon into a crowd of students escaping the school, was obviously determined to kill SOMEBODY, and by crackey, he got one. In spite of his criminal stupidity and incompetence, he is still employed with the Denver Police Department, but they did somehow come up with the common sense to transfer him off the Death Squad and put him on Horseback Patrol.

34 posted on 01/15/2002 7:03:04 PM PST by meadsjn
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To: t-shirt
A state lawmaker said Thursday that if the courts don't get involved. He will move to form a legislative committee with subpoena powers to get answers.

"Not necessarily to find wrongdoing not necessarily to find the witch, so to speak, but to clear the air … find out what the truth is," said Rep. Don Lee, a Littleton Republican.

Heard a blurb on the Fox Report (FNC, 7pm ET) that a state rep has indeed called for a legislative commission. I assume it's Rep. Lee.

35 posted on 01/15/2002 7:30:11 PM PST by Plummz
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To: t-shirt
admits (Admits or claims under extreme pressure from the government and Sheriff???--my comments)

The latter, obviously. The phrasing betrtays the statist bias of NBC News.

Great compilation of stories here. Have you been checking the Boulder Daily Camera for stories? They seem to be an good independent Colorado news source and have carried interesting stories on the JonBenet ramsey mystery. Though, of course, that murder happened in Boulder.

36 posted on 01/15/2002 7:55:55 PM PST by Plummz
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To: DoughtyOne
It stunk from day one.
37 posted on 01/15/2002 7:56:20 PM PST by Plummz
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To: Boxsford
A little known fact about Taylor, he is/was a friend of the Rohrbough's prior to the shootings and even used to babysit Danny Rohrbough when he was growing up.
38 posted on 01/15/2002 8:05:10 PM PST by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: t-shirt
Check out Alan Prendergast's reports at Westword.
39 posted on 01/15/2002 8:10:56 PM PST by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: t-shirt;Roscoe
Hey Roscoe! Wanna defend this piece of shit cop? Wanna defend the other pieces of shit that DID NOT COME FORWARD with what they know about this shooting, and will, utterly predictably, say they saw nothing?
40 posted on 01/16/2002 3:39:10 AM PST by eno_
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To: t-shirt
I'd prefer to see Death Education at Columbine High investigated.
41 posted on 01/16/2002 3:43:33 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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"Pray for truth and justice for these families."

These families deserve nothing less than truth and justice.

42 posted on 01/16/2002 6:36:26 AM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: t-shirt
WAnted you to know that Fox news last night, I believe, had a blurb about the Columbine treacheries (my word) being investigated further.

Come one, America - let's get to the truth about the ClintonledDNC crimes against Americans/America. Let's relegate them to the ash heap of history.

I would much rather fight real legitimate ideologues with differences than organized crime mafia groups. The ideas of the left are so vanquished - by the truth - that all they have left is brute thug force. That is why:

Liberalism=socialism=communism=maoism

That is why every liberal will always agree with using the force from a gun barrel to make you DISARM and take everything you have - all the while spouting lies about caring about "gun violence". Why?

Liberalism/Socialism/Communism/Maosim = all must rule by force because their ideas can never rule since they are empty of truth.

Human nature is such that people as wicked and sinful as we/they are gravitate to those things which benefit them - and "conservative" (truth-based) ideas benefit all people! The only way to win over the power of the truth is with the barrel of a gun aimed at the truth tellers!

The Clintonled Demonazi's understand this!

When will all the pubbies wake up and grasp it too?

43 posted on 01/16/2002 6:44:01 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: eno_
Watch your foul mouth, please.
44 posted on 01/16/2002 8:26:20 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: t-shirt
BTTT
45 posted on 01/16/2002 8:50:27 AM PST by TigersEye
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To: nopardons
You have not ask me many times.

No one is malisciously bumping to you.

You were not ignored, you are not on any list of mine, but you most likely replied to a previous thread(s) on on Columbine and that is what I bumped you based on---your interest in Columbine.

46 posted on 01/16/2002 10:04:17 AM PST by t-shirt
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To: t-shirt
The boot lickers are not convinced, they just realize the the rock has been turn over and all of the things that weren't supposed to see the light of day are in plain view,
47 posted on 01/16/2002 10:30:45 AM PST by Nov3
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To: t-shirt
You are a monster for bumping people. I like monsters so keep me on your list.
48 posted on 01/16/2002 10:45:15 AM PST by Nov3
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To: t-shirt
Hmmm, a coverup that just can't stay covered up.
Of course, that doesn't stop them from trying.
I have more respect for the officer that screwed up and at least had
the decency to feel bad about it than the scum that convinced him to
change his story and then lie to protect their reps.
(Assuming of course that the PILE of evidence that points to that conclusion turns
out to be correct. Which, if the leo's in charge of this have anything to say/do about it...)

G*d protect me from a cop that lies...I can protect myself from the common criminal.
49 posted on 01/16/2002 12:14:15 PM PST by freefly
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To: Roscoe
Why the hell should I? Especially at your request. No profanity is strong enough to describe the kind of people who would a) Do this. and b) Cover the asses of the people who did it. They deserve every scorn they get and quite a bit more.
50 posted on 01/16/2002 12:56:06 PM PST by eno_
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