Any thoughts? Any USSP-era Veterans? Friends/family of Veterans?
I was flabbergasted there was no response
Hey, if you can't take a joke....
posted on 01/31/2002 7:58:40 AM PST
Johnson, Carter, Clinton... It makes no difference. All were spineless presidents.
posted on 01/31/2002 8:02:11 AM PST
Clifford said he was sorry about the ship and the men. What more could the men want???
posted on 01/31/2002 8:11:22 AM PST
Presidents who are too afraid of war to wage it in our national defense are a threat to our national security and a disgrace to the office.
posted on 01/31/2002 8:19:04 AM PST
"I am deeply sorry about the ship and the 83 men," said Clark Clifford, a Johnson aide who would become secretary of Defense five weeks later, "but I do not think it is worth a resumption of the Korean War."
Nothing he said before "but" counts. The key phrase is "I do not think it is worth a resumption of the Korean War."
He was willing to see 83 American military tortured to death to avoid a war with North Korea. Imagine a world where a spineless leader allows orcs to torture 83 of his warriors without a response.
President Bush is naming names and this is not over, not by a long shot.
"Our grief has turned to anger and anger to resolution. Whether we bring our enemies to justice or bring justice to our enemies, justice will be done," Bush vowed to thunderous applause.
posted on 01/31/2002 8:25:35 AM PST
Johnson was unrealistically afraid of the Red Chinese, who were in such an internal froth at that time that they couldn't have done much anyway. That fear was reflected in both his policies in Vietnam, and those surrounding the Pueblo incident. That said, there was plenty of blame to go around. The Navy did not make sufficient arrangements to protect what was essentially an unarmed ship (They did have machine guns). They did learn however, and for the most part the mission of the Pueblo and her sisters was taken over by modified destroyers and frigates, which could at least stand up to a pipqueak navy like that of North Korea, at least long enough to call in the calvary.
posted on 01/31/2002 8:35:35 AM PST
by El Gato
LBJ was a typical demonicRat president. He was ballless and more concerned about his role in history than being a commander in chief. He refused to use decisive actions in Nam to punish N. Vietnamese communists. He and his pinky panty jagoffs placed suicide controls over our pilots who risked their lives with each op.
Personally, the Pueblo may have been set up so LBJ could activate the reserves, which many were called up after the action. Many of us got out of the reserves and service after we realized that LBJ did not want to win the war. Critical MOS's were in short supply. Post Pueblo, many reservists with these Critical MOS's were called up. Of course nothing was done to the vicious NKs, and the Pueblo is still there as their national treasure!
Presidents like Truman in the Korean War, LBJ, Carter and Clinton never protect the American Serviceman. Their pink panty jagoff lawyers work 24/7 to protect the evil ones and to put our guys in harms way. They tried this in our most recent war. Rumsfield ripped new rectums very quickly.
There should be a National Urinal at LBJ's grave for Nam veterans, widows of guys killed there, parents of guys killed there, and other relatives of guys killed there. Then 24/7 these people could visit the grave of this dishonorable demonicRat and leave their feelings about him on his grave! I would visit at least once a year and give LBJ what I think of him!
North Koreans might blow the Americans out of the sky with their air defenses and the 70 MiG fighters parked at Wonson.
Weak excuse. The USAF regularly "closed" North Korean airbases during the Korean War merely by orbiting those bases with an F-86, or two. To scramble MiGs under such conditions would be suicide.
posted on 01/31/2002 10:27:44 AM PST
Thanks for this post. We sure should have went in after them.
posted on 01/31/2002 4:40:59 PM PST
To: Travis McGee; Squantos
for old time's sake bump
posted on 02/03/2002 4:34:49 PM PST
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