[sneakypete]

Moynihan joined them, though.

Moynihan always talked one way,and voted the other. Notice how he was rabidly anti-Bubbette!,but endorsed her when she made her campaign official? Moynihan's "job" within the Dim party was to always appear as a "moderate leader" so people didn't flee the Dim Party in horror. In truth he was a bad as the rest of them. I'll always suspect he is also a old fairy.

[Twodees]

Exactly. While conservatives were being sold the snow job that there were still a few conservative democrats among the Nor'east Irish Catholics in office, Patsy was crafting such legislation as his proposal to tax ammo 10,000%.

It was pretty much the same with Tip O'Neil. Same bill of goods sold about the supposed "oldtimey" democrats, same behind the scenes maneuvering.