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Nude Swimming at the YMCA

Posted on 02/13/2002 8:13:00 AM PST by pabianice

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To: TontoKowalski
From your story, I would have figured you were in your early twenties, still able to pass as a teenager.
51 posted on 02/13/2002 11:51:34 AM PST by Oschisms
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To: pabianice
Most public pools men swam nude up until the 20s and 30s of this century.
52 posted on 02/13/2002 11:57:10 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: mseltzer
Before the public school mandate to promulgate homosexuality, men could behave like men (or boys like boys) without all the sexual innuendos. Just another example of the damage done by the liberal, educrats. They have no idea how to teach reading, writing, and arithmetic; they've given up on attempting to teach English grammar, but they sure know alot and can even demonstrate how to put on a condom, sexual harrassment, 'white men are bad,' girls are all good, and any other social perversion that can screw up the kids!
53 posted on 02/13/2002 12:09:01 PM PST by SouthCarolinaKit
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To: DonkeyHodee
Before girls swimming suits, boys always swam in the buff, for centuries upon centuries. Such a rule in the depression years would have made the pool accessible to the poor who couldn't afford swim suits, or who's underwear might have well caused them ridicule. The question is not really why they did not allow swimsuits, but why you did know.

But why did I know what? What about before the depression years? How about in the 13th century, could people afford swim wear then? I take it you never took Dulcinea swimming. Your post really makes no sense...........

54 posted on 02/13/2002 12:22:45 PM PST by skateman
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To: skateman
30% of Americans were unemployed in the depression. Before that there were still a lot of places where kids went swimming the old fashioned way with the built in perversions of today's so fashionable and hip society. There was once a thing called childhood. Now, there's only child hoods.
55 posted on 02/13/2002 3:49:12 PM PST by DonkeyHodee
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To: skateman
What is Dulcinia swimming? Also according to a google search I did, bathing suits were not invented until 1830 by someone named Bruzzi, so I guess people swam skinny up until then.
56 posted on 02/13/2002 4:08:12 PM PST by Zorobabel
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To: OneidaM
Many moons...............sometimes shot comets too, but you don't wanna know.............
57 posted on 02/13/2002 4:19:50 PM PST by b4its2late
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To: pabianice
There's a simple answer to this, one I was totally surprised at: it comes down to filters and fibers.

Back when, pool filters were pretty basic; they used sand to run the water through. The way the filters were built, fiber, especially from natural materials, would collect in the interstices between the sand grains. There, they could develop quite vigorous colonies of microorganisms, many of which just weren't healthy for human skin, eyes, and ears.
What about chlorine, you ask? Keeping it high enough to kill all that crap was also not good for human skin, etc. Besides, when it killed the stuff, that stuff was still in place, clogging the sand... and ready to feed more bugs in turn, if the chlorine wavered. But even if nothing grew there, the filters clogged, and did a poor job, and weren't easy to flush out.
In short, wearing clothes in the pool was a quick route to either chlorine counts high enough to drive people away, or disease.
This didn't depend on anyone using the pool being infected to set off; the fiber collected the dead skin cells and body oils we shed in vigorous activity, and that material inevitably housed all sorts of bacteria that could put people in the hospital if they thrived.

So the reason was indeed hygiene -- but it was to protect the swimmer from the pool more than the pool from the swimmer.

That's the sort of thing you learn when you're going to be head lifeguard at a public pool, with responsibility for pool chemistry, filters, and pumps.
Today's filters, commonly using diatomaceous earth, can be easily flushed, and are componentized so filter baffles with a problem can be easily removed and replaced.

My dad still doesn't believe that --; he says that swimsuits were a conspiracy by neo-Puritan clothing industrialists intent on expanding their sales.

58 posted on 02/02/2009 9:16:24 AM PST by TrailDude
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To: pabianice
All the recent news about pedophiles and child pornography has made me wonder about how our local YMCA was run back when I was a kid (late 1950s - early 1960s). No bathing suits were allowed in the Y pool. We kids (boys only, ages about 8-14) simply swam naked. Seemed a little odd at the time, but kids generally do as adults demand without thinking too much about it. There were men there, too, but they wore bathing suits.

And people wondered why the Village People chose to do a song about the YMCA.

59 posted on 02/02/2009 9:19:09 AM PST by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: pabianice

The kids and adults swam naked almost exclusively not too far back in the past before that.

Of course back then adults looked after kids, even those that weren’t there own, and nearly all kids had 2 parents, and the ones that didn’t those around looked out for all the more.

That, and the fact you got caught doing that stuff, people didn’t go to the cops over it, you just quietly disappeared.

60 posted on 02/02/2009 9:22:54 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: pabianice

The Y I swim at simply chlorinates the pool to any extremely high level, making nude swimming unnecessary.

61 posted on 02/02/2009 9:30:55 AM PST by JacksonCalhoun
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To: pabianice
I can see how it is hard for people today to think that the YMCA could allow nude swimming and such. You must understand that back then, there wasn't the fear of child abuse because of the Christian values our Nation had back then. You must also understand, this was the norm. Not only the YMCA aloud nude activities, but also did other public pools and public schools. What stopped nudity wasn't the fear of sexual abuse or the homosexual movement as some people might think. It was because, women wanted to use the pools at the same time as the men. So, modesty was needed. What is so ironic is that after nudity was restricted, our country was seeing an increase of sexual crimes and the Gay Movement was starting. In my personal view, I believe we have taken away what was needed in our men and boys. We needed true role models and other men who we can compare ourselves to. If there is someone to blame about the Gay movement and a large number of child abusers, I would blame it on the Extreme Feminist.
But that is my own opinion. Today, many boys and men can't have true friendships with each other because there isn't a safe place to hang around naked and not be ashamed. most men are also afraid to be called gay, even though they aren't. Soon an uncle can't hug his nephew without people accusing him of some sexual activity. It's sad.

Here is a website that is trying to change America back to the old way of thinking. These men might not have any susses, but they are on the right track of thinking.

62 posted on 05/08/2010 1:12:22 PM PDT by Sirnarnian (Y.M.C.A. wasn't Gay and nore is Nude Swimming)
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To: Eva

Hygiene and clogged filters were the reasons given. Neither one holds up. Girls one-pieces were more likely to clog the filters, but that didn’t count. As for hygiene, there are many ways of ensuring good hygiene, and they shouldn’t be restricted to a fraction of the users.
And as for your other justification:
“Besides, women are naturally more modest than men.” Did you ever think that women/girls are allowed to be more modest than men? To get your eyes opened, read Joel Sherman’s Patient Modesty blog.
Growing up I heard all kinds of generalizations (always from women) on the subject: Boys are all the same. Girls aren’t interested in boys bodies. And on.

63 posted on 05/07/2015 8:33:31 AM PDT by jacquard
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To: TontoKowalski

Perhaps he’s just in awe ...

You are “Tonto Kowalski”, after all.

64 posted on 05/07/2015 8:37:43 AM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: NorthMountain
Man, this is an old thread. How did this get resurrected?

I'm glad to report that our very secluded home has a pool, and I skinny dip regularly. When I'm doing yard work and get overheated, it's just a quick strip and jump.

I've got to admit there is a certain freedom to skinny dipping. I really didn't do that much as a boy other than a weekend trip to the creek. Mainly we used public pools.

65 posted on 05/07/2015 12:50:21 PM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: TontoKowalski

See #63 .... looks like some dude just joined TODAY, and started digging up old threads ... Perhaps I should learn to read the dates on the posts.

66 posted on 05/07/2015 12:53:36 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: weegee

GHW Bush with naked “posture” photographs at Yale, possibly— I don’t know when the practice started. GW Bush, definitely. During his era and beyond, stopping when Yale accepted female undergrads. Hillary, definitely NOT. She was undergrad at Wellesley College and Yale didn’t require nude physicals of grad students.
The photographs were supposedly destroyed, along with the negatives, but they turned up years later in the possession of a junior faculty member of Smith College for women, where he was selling them to the girls there for a little side income.
The photography was handled by steam room staff at Payne Whitney gym, one major center of homosexual activity. Hygiene certainly was a cover, it makes no logical sense whatsoever to apply it only to male swimmers, so you are right.

67 posted on 05/09/2016 12:45:11 PM PDT by jacquard
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