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Moment of Truth-Russians Refuse to Show and Pick up Bronze Men's Hockey Medal
National Post of Canada ^ | February 25, 2002 | Roy MacGregor

Posted on 02/25/2002 12:08:45 PM PST by codebreaker

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To: Lent
I didn't know the Canadians had anyone in Afganistan. That is a first. Are they lost??? Looking for France maybe???? I didn't know that Canada had a military. I guess they do need someone to walk in the victory parade don't they.
61 posted on 02/25/2002 1:43:43 PM PST by bduet
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To: bduet
I didn't know the Canadians had anyone in Afganistan. That is a first. Are they lost??? Looking for France maybe???? I didn't know that Canada had a military. I guess they do need someone to walk in the victory parade don't they.

Everybody's a smart %ss. Remember who entered both World Wars before the U.S.?

62 posted on 02/25/2002 1:46:11 PM PST by Lent
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To: bduet
I would love to see Darian Hatcher put Eric Lindros on IR.

In case you didn't notice, Canada also left one of the heaviest hitters this game has ever seen (Scott Stevens) home for two weeks. The problem the U.S. had was not a lack of size, but the fact that it had two many old players (Chelios, Housley, and Suter) on the blue line.

Suter is still trying to figure out how to keep Jarome Iginla more than 8 inches away from Richter's crease -- I don't think I've seen a worse performance by a defenseman in a big game.

63 posted on 02/25/2002 1:47:40 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Colonel_Flagg
The most mobile American defensemen were also the oldest, which led, in my mind, to trouble later in the tournament at altitude.

I agree. Chelios played his heart out, but I'm still trying to figure out why the U.S. insisted on playing with a 40 year-old defenseman on that large ice surface.

64 posted on 02/25/2002 1:49:14 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Lent
France??????????? Uraguay?????? Maybe our favorite neighbor Mexico??????
65 posted on 02/25/2002 1:49:24 PM PST by bduet
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To: borkrules
latent anti-Americanism in Canada

It's a long time sickness, the old inferiority complex. And often it's not exactly latent. Seems to be stronger among libs (outright envy, usually lefty crap) and some middle-of-the-roaders, conservatives are more appreciative of the old-time American dedication to freedom. But for most Canadians, support of their team was based on desperation for a gold, not anti-Americanism.

66 posted on 02/25/2002 1:50:02 PM PST by Argh
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To: Alberta's Child
Suter is still trying to figure out how to keep Jarome Iginla more than 8 inches away from Richter's crease -- I don't think I've seen a worse performance by a defenseman in a big game.

Wasn't it Suter's gutless cross-check of Kariya which sidelined him for the 98 Olympics?

67 posted on 02/25/2002 1:50:43 PM PST by Lent
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To: bduet
Thirty years of left-wing rule has pretty much ruined the Canadian military, but you might be interested in this thread. Then again, you may not.
68 posted on 02/25/2002 1:54:42 PM PST by Argh
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To: Lent
They had it on the floor.

Oh, bull s@#t.

They did not. Get real. That myth doesn't even pass the laugh test.

What's the motivation? American's "just beneath the surface" hatred of all things Canadian? Good grief. It would be one thing if the Iranian hockey team (assuming they could field one that could play with the Burquas on) said something like that, but Canada? Come on.

69 posted on 02/25/2002 1:55:25 PM PST by borkrules
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To: Lent
You may be right about that. Sometimes older players use their sticks to make up for their loss of speed and strength.

When Iginla scored Canada's second goal I remember thinking to myself that a decent 12 year-old defenseman could have done a better job than Suter did.

70 posted on 02/25/2002 1:55:37 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Alberta's Child
I will tell you a little secret, the best athletes, hardest hitters in the US are playing football. Until that changes, we will be producing the next Jeff Garcia rather than the next Mario. Believe me, if our best athletes were playing Hockey, we would be dominant. I am still amazed we are the second best team in the world.
71 posted on 02/25/2002 1:57:18 PM PST by bduet
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To: Alberta's Child
Chelios played his heart out...

THAT'S why they had that "old man" on the ice. It's also one reason why the Red Wings will win the Stanley Cup this year.

72 posted on 02/25/2002 1:58:19 PM PST by borkrules
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To: borkrules
Oh, bull s@#t.

They did not. Get real. That myth doesn't even pass the laugh test.

Swear all you want to but the U.S. player admitted it when she was interviewed. IT'S A FACT!

Who the &*ll cares about their "motivation". The fact of the matter is that's where they put it.

73 posted on 02/25/2002 1:58:21 PM PST by Lent
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To: bduet
. . . if our best athletes were playing Hockey, we would be dominant.

And if Zimbabwe were able to find a pile of scrap metal and four wheels, they would be a potential NASCAR powerhouse.

I'll tell you a little secret -- the best athletes in the U.S. are playing hockey. You make a big mistake when you assume that anyone with "athletic ability" can play hockey.

74 posted on 02/25/2002 2:01:17 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Lent
Wasn't it Suter's gutless cross-check...

Speaking of cross checks, didn't that little bi!ch Fleury take some lumber to the spine after he decided to lay down on my boy Hasek during Canada's game against the Czechs? Then he flopped around like a girl for a spell until it was time for his next shift when he skated out with a sh!t eating grin. Makes Claude Lemieux look like a real man.

But I'm not bitter or anything...

75 posted on 02/25/2002 2:02:22 PM PST by borkrules
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To: borkrules
The Red Wings may have the most "heart" and the most talent on paper, but if you think they're going to ride that group of senior citizens through two months of Stanley Cup playoffs, you're crazy.
76 posted on 02/25/2002 2:04:14 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Lent
I'll look for the American player's quote, admitting the stupidity of putting a flag on the floor of the dressing room. That's just retarded. If it's true, they deserved to lose.

Or you could help me out and give me a link. And no, second hand hearsay from Wayne Gretsky will not cut it.

77 posted on 02/25/2002 2:04:57 PM PST by borkrules
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To: Alberta's Child
And if you think all they've got are "seasoned citizens" then you haven't been following them this year. There are a handful of talented "youts" playing for this year's team. Prepare to be surprised.

But by all means, continue to flog that dead horse. Here's hoping the rest of the league does the same.

78 posted on 02/25/2002 2:06:52 PM PST by borkrules
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To: borkrules
Speaking of cross checks, didn't that little bi!ch Fleury take some lumber to the spine after he decided to lay down on my boy Hasek during Canada's game against the Czechs? Then he flopped around like a girl for a spell until it was time for his next shift when he skated out with a sh!t eating grin. Makes Claude Lemieux look like a real man.

I don't know if you've ever played hockey but a little lumber applied to your back region I'm sure would cause you to cry to mommy for the next 10 years. Watcha doing now cheering for the slimy Czechs?

79 posted on 02/25/2002 2:11:14 PM PST by Lent
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To: borkrules
Yeah it didn't happen. Where is the refutation? Here's one of the stories appearing in a reputable source. Have you seen any refutation? If I was on the Canadian team and had been accused of putting the U.S flag on the floor and I didn't I'd be shouting it from the housetops. Strange way to refute - say little or nothing.




 

                 Canadian women golden in hockey
                 "Anybody who ever doubted us, I don't think they doubt us anymore":
                 Heaney
                 Last Updated: Fri Feb 22 02:52:37 EST 2002

                 CBC SPORTS ONLINE - The underdogs bit back. After losing eight straight games to
                 their bitter rivals, Canada's women's hockey team came up big when it counted.

                 The Canadians beat the United States 3-2
                 Thursday to capture the Olympic gold medal
                 and avenge their loss to the Americans four
                 years ago in Nagano.

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                 captain Cassie Campbell, one of nine
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                 "It's been four long years thinking about that
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                 belongs," she added as she broke down.

                 Caroline Ouelette, Hayley Wickenheiser and Jayna Hefford scored for Canada, while
                 Katie King and Karin Bye replied for the U.S.

                 Canada's penalty-killing and goaltending were the story on this night. The Canadians
                 killed off 9 of 11 powerplays, and faced a stretch of eight straight American powerplays,
                 two where Canada was down five players to three. Canada, meanwhile, had the
                 man-advantage just four times during the game.

                 Team members were scathing in their assessment of referee Stacey Livingston, an
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                 Canada opened the scoring when Cherie
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                 Canada jumped back into the lead three minutes later when DeCosta gave up a big
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                 "Anybody who ever doubted us, I don't think
                 they doubt us anymore," said veteran
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                 end my career."
http://www.cbc.ca/olympics/news/canada_usa_gold020221

 

80 posted on 02/25/2002 2:18:04 PM PST by Lent
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