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North Dallas suburb's school board changes nickname from Coons [Racially Offensive]
Associated Press ^ | March 5, 2002 | A/P Staff

Posted on 03/05/2002 5:03:33 AM PST by MeekOneGOP

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I have live in the Dallas Metroplex for 30 years now and I had never heard of this school's moniker/name before today. This story was on the radio this morning, 102.9 FM KDMX.

1 posted on 03/05/2002 5:03:34 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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Related:

Frisco board alters school's moniker
http://www.dallasnews.com/localnews/city/collin/stories/030502dnmetraccoon.9885f.html

2 posted on 03/05/2002 5:05:41 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
Oops! "live" s/b "lived"
3 posted on 03/05/2002 5:07:39 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
Glad they got rid of it. Racoon sounds better anyway. I became aware of this racial name when I moved to Phoenix. I do not believe this to be a proper thing to call a team. They also used the term spook. With all due respect to Casper the friendly ghost I hope this is also not used anywhere.
4 posted on 03/05/2002 5:09:07 AM PST by ImphClinton
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To: MeeknMing
I grew up in Pekin, Illinois, a small town exactly on the opposite side of the world as Peking, China.

Our nickname was the Pekin Chinks. [And yes, it got changed years ago.]

5 posted on 03/05/2002 5:10:01 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: MeeknMing
Did they say which lawyer represented the offended racoons?

The should change their name to the "We Bend Over And Take It Up The Wazoo For Liberals". I'll admit it's not a catchy name, but it's true.

6 posted on 03/05/2002 5:10:43 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: MeeknMing
Over 2/3 of black babies born last year in the U.S. were illegitimate - but let's worry about serious things like the nicknames of high-school sports teams!
7 posted on 03/05/2002 5:12:15 AM PST by glc1173@aol.com
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To: glc1173@aol.com
Those ba$tards!
8 posted on 03/05/2002 5:14:05 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: MeeknMing
Sounds reasonable. PC has gone WAY too far in many other cases, but the mascot isn't really changing in this case... just being clarified. The students will certainly continue to call themselves 'Coons just to be defiant and rebellious.
9 posted on 03/05/2002 5:14:52 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: Constitution Day
LOL!
10 posted on 03/05/2002 5:15:31 AM PST by Teacher317
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11 posted on 03/05/2002 5:15:48 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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Duke, spokesdog for Coon Hounds of America, said his organization is not contemplating changing its name. "Naw, our members don't really care about such things," he said.
12 posted on 03/05/2002 5:19:25 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
A small town in W.Va., Poca, has named its high school team the "Dots." That probably offends freckled people, but there's been no indication a name change is in the offing.
13 posted on 03/05/2002 5:21:14 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: Teacher317
8^)
14 posted on 03/05/2002 5:21:26 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: MeeknMing
This actually sounds like a reasonable change to me. I can't see getting up in arms about going from 'Coons to Raccoons.
15 posted on 03/05/2002 5:22:30 AM PST by Sloth
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Our nickname was the Pekin Chinks. [And yes, it got changed years ago.]

When the Brady Bunch got the Washington Bullets to change to the Washington Wizards, I wonder if they considered the fact that "Wizard" was too close to "Grand Wizard."

I am more pissed about the St. John's Redmen changing to Red Storm. Coon to Racoon isn't that big of a deal.

16 posted on 03/05/2002 5:23:12 AM PST by Clemenza
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To: MeeknMing
I'm with the name change in this case. The name can be used as an obvious racial slur, it's easily changed to the full name, and it hurts no one.

I distinguish between your garden variety PC decisions, and ones which are just thoughtful, and perhaps even kind.

btw, I'm a Cleveland Indians' fan who is against a name change there because the name was given to the team out of respect for one of its early players, and as a symbol of strength.

17 posted on 03/05/2002 5:23:57 AM PST by ohioWfan
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To: MeeknMing
Gee in NEW BRITAIN, Conn "educational value outweighed politics."
18 posted on 03/05/2002 5:24:46 AM PST by Lockbox
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
I grew up in Pekin, Illinois, a small town exactly on the opposite side of the world as Peking, China.

Maybe in longitude, but the real opposite point would be in the southern hemisphere.

19 posted on 03/05/2002 5:26:25 AM PST by Sloth
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To: MeeknMing
What do we do about Louisiana?

Many of the people who live in that state call themselves ‘Coon Asses’.

20 posted on 03/05/2002 5:27:08 AM PST by Lockbox
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To: MeeknMing
Frisco's just a couple miles up the road. My wife and I have been discussing for some years now how long we thought it would take before the name was changed.

A fellow I work with has a coffee mug emblazoned with "Frisco Coons". I guess it's now a collector's item.

21 posted on 03/05/2002 5:29:42 AM PST by ken in texas
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To: mountaineer
Nice B&T ya got there-One of the nicest discussions I had through the years with various coon hunters
was with a black southern gentleman who breed some bodacious black and tans and redbones
I forgot to ask him is he was offended by the use of the word coon, in reference to our beloved sport.
Guess there were more important things to talk about.
22 posted on 03/05/2002 5:30:10 AM PST by joesnuffy
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To: MeeknMing
Psychopathological Projection Syndrome is a symptom of the mental illness -- Liberalism -- itself but a symptom of a far more serious malaise!
23 posted on 03/05/2002 5:32:24 AM PST by Brian Allen
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To: MeeknMing
I have live in the Dallas Metroplex for 30 years now and I had never heard of this school's moniker/name before today. This story was on the radio this morning, 102.9 FM KDMX.

Probably because for the 30 years you've lived here, Frisco was just a little town until about 4 or 5 years ago. Now it's one of the fastest growing cities in the country.

IMO ... this case is a joke. I don't understand why some people are so over-sensitive about things like this. Sure, kids with no consciences from other schools may use it to pick on the kids from Frisco, but other than that, 'Coon has always meant Racoon as far as I'm concerned.

24 posted on 03/05/2002 5:35:42 AM PST by al_c
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To: ImphClinton
You may be out west, but those in Louisiana and who are close to Louisiana--like Texas-- have a different history and even affection for the term "Coon"--and it is not racial.

What a bore. These hyper-sensitive pantywaists really need a keeper if a word is a deadly wound.

Go, Cocks! (South Carolina)

25 posted on 03/05/2002 5:36:15 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: MeeknMing
You heard about the Confederate Air Force having to change their name, right? I think it is Constitutional Air Force or something like that..
26 posted on 03/05/2002 5:37:27 AM PST by TxBec
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To: MeeknMing
sorry.. its Commemorative Air Force now.
27 posted on 03/05/2002 5:38:57 AM PST by TxBec
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To: Constitution Day
Good Lord. With some of the team names here in NC, we'd REALLY be in trouble!!
28 posted on 03/05/2002 5:39:04 AM PST by billbears
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To: MeeknMing
A name can only become racist if one feels it applies to them. The name Coon is only short for Racoon, just like Jay is short for Blue Jay. Nothing more nothing less.
29 posted on 03/05/2002 5:39:43 AM PST by IW
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To: glc1173@aol.com
"Over 2/3 of black babies born last year in the U.S. were illegitimate."

It's your fault! <>

30 posted on 03/05/2002 5:40:19 AM PST by blam
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To: glc1173@aol.com
Over 2/3 of black babies born last year in the U.S. were illegitimate - but let's worry about serious things like the nicknames of high-school sports teams!

Right on, glc...

BUMP for clarity

31 posted on 03/05/2002 5:42:47 AM PST by maxwell
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To: billbears
Ain't it the truth!
32 posted on 03/05/2002 5:44:29 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: TxBec
Are you serious?! Talk about over-sensitive!

\Con*fed"er*ate\, a. [L. confoederatus, p. p. of confoederare to join by a league; con- + foederare to establish by treaty or league, fr. foedus league, compact. See Federal.] 1. United in a league; allied by treaty; engaged in a confederacy; banded together; allied.

Funny how some people lose track of the real definition of a word because of political correctness.

33 posted on 03/05/2002 5:44:42 AM PST by al_c
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But black student LaVaughn Oliver, a sophomore, said, "I have a friend whose grandfather was killed by a Klan member, and he had that etched in on his chest, and it bothered him."

I doubt that. Why would the Klan carve a racial slur on a dead man who is obviously black? Unless the man was mostly white and the "coon" carving was to describe what they thought he was. All though I could understand them carving KKK or something like that so as to take claim for the murder. I think this young man has seen too many holocaust movies where the victims are labeled Jew to distinguish them from the other white people. I think this is another case of invented racism.

34 posted on 03/05/2002 5:44:46 AM PST by Gaston
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To: mountaineer
LOL!
35 posted on 03/05/2002 5:45:16 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Did quite a few wrestling and football matchups with the "Chinks" in the early 60's.

Champaign (Illinois) High School "Maroons", which, I believe is defined as a "fugitive black slave". So far, I think they are still using that nickname for Champaign Central HS.

36 posted on 03/05/2002 5:46:00 AM PST by a6intruder
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To: al_c
yes...

we went to the CAF museum last year sometime and the curator there mentioned the name was soon to change for PC reasons, and it has. (at least in Texas)

37 posted on 03/05/2002 5:46:44 AM PST by TxBec
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To: TxBec
Unbelievable! >:o(
38 posted on 03/05/2002 5:47:56 AM PST by al_c
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To: MeeknMing,Cagey, SeeRushtoldU_so
I found the comment by the young girl, that this was a problem for NEW people coming to town, to be enlightening.

Several years ago, we had a new Baptist Preacher in town. He objected to our Parent/Teacher organization name, which was Mother/Father/Teacher Organizaion.... and went by "MFT"

He worked very vocally to change the name because he felt it was "offensive"..... and I found it "offensive" a few years later when he was found shacked up with one of his parishoners at the Motel on the highway.....

I guess he learned "do as I say, not as I do" really well....

39 posted on 03/05/2002 5:48:46 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: Sloth
Obviously you have never been coon huntin' or owned any coon dogs in your life.

I think its stupid. Just more of the sympathetic white man with the bend over and take it attitude toward blacks in general.

A word doesn't mean anything until a person gives it credibility. THat is pretty sad that a race who gets their own history month can't be man enough to understand that a coon is a racoon or slang for a good ol' boy in some southern states.

I'm offended by the term African-American! What the hell does that mean? To me it means that blacks want to be an American so that they can take my money in the form of wellfare while putting their supposed homeland first (which by the way 99% of them have never seen and never will).

If you are going to get all the preferencial treatment from a government of a certain natin, you should at least give them credit by recognizing your importance of being a citizen of that nation vs. trying to imply dual citizenship when they have never even been to one of the nations in question!

Justin

40 posted on 03/05/2002 5:49:32 AM PST by justin4bush
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To: Gaston
Why would the Klan carve a racial slur on a dead man who is obviously black?

Of course, the Klan only acts rationally, huh?

41 posted on 03/05/2002 5:50:06 AM PST by Sloth
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Many of the people who live in that state call themselves ‘Coon Asses’.

A lady I used to work with was born and raised in Port Arthur, Texas to Cagin' parents. She used to refer to herself as being a Coon-Ass. I've never heard it explained where those monikers came from (Coon-Ass and Cagin). Do you know?

42 posted on 03/05/2002 5:53:59 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
ya mean Cajun? I know they call themselves CA's a lot. don't know why though
43 posted on 03/05/2002 5:55:25 AM PST by TxBec
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To: MeeknMing
Cagin' sounds like Cajun to me--i.e., N'orleans French.
44 posted on 03/05/2002 5:56:04 AM PST by Cicero
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To: ken in texas
A fellow I work with has a coffee mug emblazoned with "Frisco Coons". I guess it's now a collector's item.

Tell him to hang onto it. Some old RAcoon might pay good money for it one day! :O)

45 posted on 03/05/2002 5:57:14 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
Our local (rural) school hired a pc monkey fresh out of college last year. He felt our mascot was offensive because it projected a warrior mentality and that promoting war was wrong. He tried to begin a student movement to have it changed, but the student body and community managed to ridicule him back into his hole. We have a new teacher this year. small victories.
46 posted on 03/05/2002 5:57:52 AM PST by DancesWithTrout
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To: Sloth
You won't have a problem with changing Washington, DC to MLK City, would you?
47 posted on 03/05/2002 5:59:29 AM PST by CWRWinger
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To: CWRWinger
No reason to, as far as I'm concerned, though I'm sure the modern population of that city certainly identifies more with MLK than George Washington.
48 posted on 03/05/2002 6:03:56 AM PST by Sloth
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To: al_c
Probably because for the 30 years you've lived here, Frisco was just a little town until about 4 or 5 years ago. Now it's one of the fastest growing cities in the country.

IMO ... this case is a joke. I don't understand why some people are so over-sensitive about things like this. Sure, kids with no consciences from other schools may use it to pick on the kids from Frisco, but other than that, 'Coon has always meant Racoon as far as I'm concerned.

Actually, I have an aunt and uncle that have a mobil home in Frisco. They moved about a year ago to the Cleburne area where they own a couple of homes. Frisco has grown from nothing quickly, that's true. I think Bill Bates, the ex-Dallas Cowboy, has a home there and used to have a Shindig there just before the regular season opened every year.

I've heard it used both for Racoon and racially, and I'm sure the kids do take a ribbing about it from rival schools.

49 posted on 03/05/2002 6:07:21 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: TxBec
That's right, they did change it from Confederate Air Force.
50 posted on 03/05/2002 6:10:12 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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