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North Dallas suburb's school board changes nickname from Coons [Racially Offensive]
Associated Press ^ | March 5, 2002 | A/P Staff

Posted on 03/05/2002 5:03:33 AM PST by MeekOneGOP

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To: Tall_Texan
I've heard of the Old San Francisco Steak House.. Is it still on I35? (I'm getting hungry now) :)
101 posted on 03/05/2002 9:39:04 AM PST by TxBec
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To: cake_crumb
Yeah, your probably right. I should have clarified the statement to read "not likely to be confused with a racial slur by an intelligent, non-biased, well read individual" or something like that. It would have excluded black racists on the make, white liberal bleeding hearts looking for an opportunity to kiss some angry minority butt, or typical cranio-rectumized American voters.
102 posted on 03/05/2002 9:42:03 AM PST by ZULU
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To: MeeknMing, Al_C, TexKat, Scan58
I have live in the Dallas Metroplex for 30 years now and I had never heard of this school's moniker/name before today.

The name of the town, and likely the team, comes from the St. Louis- San Francisco Railroad, popularly known as the Frisco [a name not real popular in some corners of California, BTW] the shape of whose logo is said to have been derived from a stationmaster who tacked a coonskin to the side of a depot to dry.

Though the Frisco railroad was later merged into the Southern Pacific, the politically correct will no doubt now want to burn down any surving restored depots....



103 posted on 03/05/2002 10:07:47 AM PST by archy
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To: TxBec
Yes, I think so but that's not the place I'm speakign about. Old San Francisco Steakhouse is a chain.

I'm in one of my diet cycles (long story) so I haven't had steaks in awhile but I love them (and miss them).

104 posted on 03/05/2002 10:14:30 AM PST by Tall_Texan
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To: archy
Thanks Archy for your informative response.
105 posted on 03/05/2002 11:10:52 AM PST by TexKat
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To: MeeknMing
I would really like a fightin' coons t-shirt.
106 posted on 03/05/2002 12:20:31 PM PST by mn_b_one
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To: fnord
Coonass is a controversial term in the Cajun lexicon: to some Cajuns it is regarded as the supreme ethnic slur, meaning "ignorant, backwards Cajun"; to others the term is a badge of pride, much like the word Chicano is for Mexican Americans. In South Louisiana, for example, one can often see bumper stickers reading "Warning -Coonass on Board!" or "Registered Coonass" (both of which generally depict a raccoon's backside).

The word's origin is unclear: folk etymology claims that coonass dates from World War II, when Cajun GIs serving in France were derided by native French speakers as conasse, meaning "dirty whore" or "idiot." Non-French-speaking American GIs allegedly overheard the expression, converted it to the English "coonass," and introduced the term back in the United States. There it supposedly soon caught on as a derisive term among non-Cajuns, who encountered many Cajuns in Gulf Coast oilfields.

It is now known, however, that coonass predated the arrival of Cajun GIs in France during World War II, which undermines the conasse theory. Indeed, folklorist Barry Jean Ancelet has long rejected this theory, calling it "shaky linguistics at best." He has suggested that the word originated in South Louisiana, and that it derived from the belief that Cajuns frequently ate raccoons. He has also proposed that the term contains a negative racial connotation: namely, that Cajuns were "beneath" or "under" blacks (or coons, as blacks were often called by racists).

Despite efforts by Cajun activists like James Domengeaux and Warren A. Perrin to stamp out the term's use, coonass continues to circulate in South Louisiana and beyond. Its acceptability among the general public, however, tends to vary according to circumstances, and often depends on who says it and with what intention. Cajuns who dislike the term have been known to correct well-meaning outsiders who use the epithet.

107 posted on 03/05/2002 12:32:52 PM PST by CJinVA
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To: MeeknMing
I tell ya. Let's decide to make "football" a racial slur. What will they change it to then?
108 posted on 03/05/2002 12:34:12 PM PST by Terriergal
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To: All

I grew up in Boston in the 40's and 50's. I know enough racial epithets to make a Klansman blush. I'm not proud of it, that's just the way it was back then.

I got over it and so should everyone else.

109 posted on 03/05/2002 12:37:02 PM PST by metesky
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To: mn_b_one
I would really like a fightin' coons t-shirt.

Here's the FISD Home Site. Maybe they can help or refer you. . .
F.I.S.D. Home Site
http://www.friscoisd.org/

110 posted on 03/05/2002 12:37:30 PM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: al_c
But not in that particular order.

I didn't say in that particular order either, I simply implied that those communities are encountered when going 'north' of Dallas before Frisco is ever even seen ...

As a side note - one could nearly make it from one of those cities to another while still tacking at least partially north each time (again, not in the order I gave) ...

My point still stands. I wouldn't have been quite so hard on the AP story writer if he had said 'an outlying Dallas suburb' (which it may legitimately be called).

Dallas doesn't even abut Frisco ... were it not for Renner having been annexed into the legal entity known as The City of Dallas (technically speaking) would be even FURTHER away from Frisco (the center of Frisco is approximately 1/3 the way up in Collin county whereas central Dallas is located centrally in Dallas county and the closest the City of Dallas boundary lies to Frisco is only about 1/16 the way up into Collin County).

Incidently, I didn't mention "The Colony" (a *real* city), Parker, Hebron, Murphy, Lucas, Fairview or Allen *all* of which are further south than Frisco ...

111 posted on 03/05/2002 1:31:34 PM PST by _Jim
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To: MeeknMing
Fear not! While the loss of Beaver was a blow we still have the minor hockey league team of Macon Whoopee from Georgia. :)
112 posted on 03/05/2002 2:25:56 PM PST by xp38
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To: ohioWfan
btw, I'm a Cleveland Indians' fan who is against a name change there because the name was given to the team out of respect for one of its early players, and as a symbol of strength.

Bingo! Louis Sockalexis bump!

And thank goodness, as well. "Cleveland Indians" (although I think "Cleveland Iroquois" is cool) sounds quite a bit better than the "Cleveland Spiders," no? ;-)

113 posted on 03/05/2002 2:37:28 PM PST by rdb3
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To: ZULU
cranio-rectumized American voters

This sounds cool. Mind if I borrow it from time to time?

114 posted on 03/05/2002 2:41:14 PM PST by rdb3
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To: rdb3
Bingo! Louis Sockalexis bump!

Oh, thank you! I couldn't come up with his name!

115 posted on 03/05/2002 2:49:37 PM PST by ohioWfan
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To: xp38
Fear not! While the loss of Beaver was a blow we still have the minor hockey league team of Macon Whoopee
from Georgia. :)

LOL!

116 posted on 03/05/2002 2:52:40 PM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: xp38
Still mourning the loss of Beaver College


Jerry Mathers, Founder
Beaver College

117 posted on 03/05/2002 2:59:08 PM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: rdb3
Cleveland Spiders????? LOL!!
118 posted on 03/05/2002 3:04:04 PM PST by ohioWfan
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To: rdb3
Be my guest.
119 posted on 03/05/2002 3:52:03 PM PST by ZULU
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To: ohioWfan
Seriously! They were the Spiders before they became the Indians.
120 posted on 03/05/2002 4:34:11 PM PST by rdb3
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To: rdb3
Wow! How did I forget that little fact?? Perhaps I repressed it!

I'm with you........thank goodness it got changed!!

121 posted on 03/05/2002 4:52:15 PM PST by ohioWfan
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To: MeeknMing
I heard about this on either KLIF or WBAP talk radio. This PC garbage is getting out of hand.
122 posted on 03/06/2002 2:22:45 AM PST by Brownie74
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To: _Jim
I didn't say in that particular order either, I simply implied that those communities are encountered when going 'north' of Dallas before Frisco is ever even seen ...

Oh, I know you didn't. I only commented on that for those that aren't familiar with the area.

As a side note - one could nearly make it from one of those cities to another while still tacking at least partially north each time (again, not in the order I gave) ...

My point still stands. I wouldn't have been quite so hard on the AP story writer if he had said 'an outlying Dallas suburb' (which it may legitimately be called).

True.

Dallas doesn't even abut Frisco ... were it not for Renner having been annexed into the legal entity known as The City of Dallas (technically speaking) would be even FURTHER away from Frisco (the center of Frisco is approximately 1/3 the way up in Collin county whereas central Dallas is located centrally in Dallas county and the closest the City of Dallas boundary lies to Frisco is only about 1/16 the way up into Collin County).

But that's the mentality of people these days. Pretty soon McKinney, Celina and VanAlstyne will be considered "suburbs" too.

Incidently, I didn't mention "The Colony" (a *real* city), Parker, Hebron, Murphy, Lucas, Fairview or Allen *all* of which are further south than Frisco ...

The Colony. I remember when that place first got started. "It'll never make it," they said. What's the population now? BTW ... I live in Allen. I have yet to hear Allen called a suburb. Go figure.

123 posted on 03/06/2002 5:45:30 AM PST by al_c
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To: ImphClinton

Good job forcing racism into the equation where there previously was NONE. This has been a school mascot for 78 YEARS!!!


124 posted on 01/19/2012 7:12:18 PM PST by Little Elmer (Forced Racism)
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