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HOWARDS TURN-Catholic League Promising Full Scale Boycott of Proposed CBS/Howard Stern Late Show
New York Post ^ | March 7, 2002 | Richard Johnson

Posted on 03/07/2002 7:51:58 AM PST by codebreaker

If there's anything to reports that CBS might replace David Letterman with Howard Stern if Letterman jumps to ABC, Stern's critics will be ready with a full-scale boycott.

The (self syled-ed.) King of All Media-whose radio show propelled Mel Karmazin into the vice chairmanship of Viacom/CBS-has often boasted he could dominate late night TV.

But Catholic League president William Donohue thunders, "CBS is out of its mind if it thinks it can get away with moving Howard Stern into the Letterman slot without a fight."

Donohue who plans to target one advertiser at a time, said, "No one in the entertainment business has angered more Americans than Howard Stern."


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Predicted this yesterday, how far we are from the greatness of Johnny Carson and Steve Allen.
1 posted on 03/07/2002 7:51:58 AM PST by codebreaker
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To: codebreaker
But Catholic League president William Donohue thunders, "CBS is out of its mind if it thinks it can get away with moving Howard Stern into the Letterman slot without a fight."

Donohue who plans to target one advertiser at a time, said, "No one in the entertainment business has angered more Americans than Howard Stern."

Except maybe William Donohue.

Now he’s wasting his time railing against a non-existent television show.

Get a job.

2 posted on 03/07/2002 7:55:46 AM PST by dead
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To: codebreaker
Look, Im a Catholic and all, but Donahue has just got to chill out. Let Howard rise and fall on his own ratings. But typically, these advertisers will fall for this drummed up "boycott" which, in reality, will be inconsequential (Haven't heard any negative effects from the supposed boycott of Toyota b/c of their capitulating to Jesse Jackson).

Most people have busy lives and don't care one way or another about these silly boycotts. Those who do have way too much time on their hands.

3 posted on 03/07/2002 7:58:11 AM PST by frmrda
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To: codebreaker; KOAM; PJ-Comix; E Rocc; SPG
Look, the fact is that if I were a GOP candidate, I'd buy ads on Howard Stern's show and do appearances.

Why? Becuase politicians who do get elected. The Catholic League seems willing to take a far left Dem rather than recognize there are bigger fish to fry.

The term circular firing squad comes to mind.

4 posted on 03/07/2002 7:59:01 AM PST by hchutch
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To: codebreaker
CBS is still a network?
5 posted on 03/07/2002 8:00:50 AM PST by hattend
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To: codebreaker
It's funny to see all these people getting their panties in a knot over a show that doesn't even exist. Furthermore, if it did exist, they wouldn't watch it anyway.
6 posted on 03/07/2002 8:04:14 AM PST by GoreIsLove
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To: frmrda
What about Dr. Laura's tv show? The sodomites got her shut down.
7 posted on 03/07/2002 8:05:25 AM PST by goodform
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To: GoreIsLove
CBS should hire John Stewart and fire Letterman, that way they cab save the 31 million and still get the same ratings.
8 posted on 03/07/2002 8:10:15 AM PST by codebreaker
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To: dead
The Catholic League should clean up their own house first before they go after Howard.
9 posted on 03/07/2002 8:15:13 AM PST by JohnGalt
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To: codebreaker
John Stewart may be good, but there's no way in hell he'd genenerate the ad revenue Letterman does, or even Stern would despite what the pitchfork-waving crowd says.
10 posted on 03/07/2002 8:15:44 AM PST by GoreIsLove
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To: codebreaker
Dear Mr. Donovan:

As a saddened and disgusted Catholic, you can count me out on ANY support for your objections to Mr. Stern. You and the church are absolute gutless hypocrites and cowards for not cleaning out the vermin who have infested the church and molested little boys...scarring them for life. Instead, the church, and Cardinal Law moved the degenerates around to other parishes, rather than holding them up to the same moral standards you expect from parishioners. So Mr. Donovan, F U !

A saddened member of the Catholic Church.

11 posted on 03/07/2002 8:20:59 AM PST by gohabsgo
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To: GoreIsLove
Stewart just needs time, if he gets the same writers and supporting cast from the Daily Show at CBS he will probably be the next Johnny Carson.
12 posted on 03/07/2002 8:23:10 AM PST by codebreaker
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To: goodform
What about Dr. Laura's tv show? The sodomites got her shut down.

I don't believe in "censorship" of any kind. After all, let's not forget we're all up in arms about the "CFR" bill, and why that is wrong. Let Howard, if he does come to CBS, fail on his own merrits. No amount of "boycotting" will do any bit of difference. Howard's radio show has been "boycotted" for years now, and he's still on the air there! In the end, people will either make a show succeed or fail. The only thing "boycotts" do, as far as a T.V. or radio show is concerned, is bring it more ratings.

Dr. Laura's show failed because she's a judgemental, hypocritical, old witch, not because of the gays.

13 posted on 03/07/2002 8:23:22 AM PST by FourtySeven
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To: FourtySeven
The fact that nobody watched her television show also contributed to its demise.
14 posted on 03/07/2002 8:29:29 AM PST by dead
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To: FourtySeven
Dr. Laura's show failed because she's a judgemental, hypocritical, old witch, not because of the gays.

Nodding head in agreement bump.

15 posted on 03/07/2002 8:34:29 AM PST by truenospinzone
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To: codebreaker
There will never be another Johnny Carson. And that John Stewart disrobed during the Grammys shows me he'll never be in the same league as Carson, or even Letterman (back in the NBC days).
16 posted on 03/07/2002 8:37:06 AM PST by GoreIsLove
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To: hchutch
Look, the fact is that if I were a GOP candidate, I'd buy ads on Howard Stern's show and do appearances.

Why? Becuase politicians who do get elected

It sure worked for Guliani, Whitman, and Pataki.

-Eric

17 posted on 03/07/2002 8:40:23 AM PST by E Rocc
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To: FourtySeven
Dr. Laura's show failed because she's a judgemental, hypocritical, old witch, not because of the gays.
Most people listen to her not to get her opinions, but to revel in the problems of others.

She resembles the TV sob-talk shows more than she does Rush, Liddy, et al.

-Eric

18 posted on 03/07/2002 8:41:54 AM PST by E Rocc
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To: FourtySeven
The only thing "boycotts" do, as far as a T.V. or radio show is concerned, is bring it more ratings.

And bring in more revenue for Bill Donahue and his ilk. This business of screaming that the sky is falling, the country is going to hell, the Evil_________ are taking over, bla, bla, bla is one of the most lucrative rackets going. And con men of the Left and Right, religious and secular milk it for all it's worth. The key is to keep the rubes in a constant state of panic and crisis so they keep sending in those checks.

I didn't approve of the Gay groups boycott of "Dr."Laura, even though I depise her, and I think this foolishness is every bit as bad.

I'm old enough to remember going to Mass and once a year having to stand up to take a pledge not to watch any movies condemned by the "Legion of Decency."
Anyone wanna go back to the Index of Forbidden books?

Red Skelton used to say at the end of his show;Thank you for inviting us into your home. Howard Stern won't be coming into my home because I won't "invite" him. If others choose to invite him into their homes that's fine by me.

19 posted on 03/07/2002 8:48:21 AM PST by nofriendofbills
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To: E Rocc
To FourtySeven and nospinzone and Eric: I beg to differ that people who listen to Dr. Laura do so to "revel in other people's problems." I have been listening to her for years and her insight is remarkable. She bills herself as a "morals and ethics" show. She has never pretended to be a Rush, Liddy-type show. I will grant you that she is tough, impatient, and has an AWFUL laugh. However, if you listen enough you will discover her message is basically all about doing what's right -- especially regarding the welfare of children. She is against abortion, raising kids (deliberately) without fathers, and divorce (unless it breaks the covenant -- addictions, abuse, or adultery). She comes down strongly on the side or personal responsibility and "doing the right thing." These are typically conservative and family values. Not a bad message, IMHO.
20 posted on 03/07/2002 8:57:00 AM PST by CT
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To: dead
Donohue's got a job, and he's doing excellent work. Don't know why you've got a bee in your bonnet over the Catholic League, but I'll bet it stems from problems with the Church.

Ditto on John Galt for his two cents. The Catholic League has no need to "clean up" their own house--and I presume you mean the Church--before taking on that Catholic-bashing, Christophobic worm, Howard Stern. The Catholic League's mission is to criticize those who attack Catholic beliefs and the Church. That's plenty.

Bump for the Catholic League, doing God's work in defending His Church here in America.

Oh, for you Rome-Is-The-Whore-of-Babylon nutcases, here's your cue: Fire away.

21 posted on 03/07/2002 9:00:07 AM PST by d-back
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To: codebreaker
Donohue who plans to target one advertiser at a time, said, "No one in the entertainment business has angered more Americans than Howard Stern."

It's comments like that that fuel the fire of the Democratic Party demagogues and turn many voters off to conservative candidates, because the 'Rats make a connection between conservatives in general and censorship-happy nitwits like Donohue.

Go ahead, Mr. Donohue, advance your puritanical, holier-than-thou, and hypocritical (considering the pedophila allegations against many Catholic clergy) agenda. Tell Stern's viewers and advertisers that they're going straight to hell if they patronize an entertainer who's exercising his 1st Amendment rights. And then see how many leftist, anti-Catholic Democrats that your agenda helps get elected, because your goddamned puritanism scares voters away from conservatives.

22 posted on 03/07/2002 9:00:45 AM PST by bassmaner
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To: nofriendofbills
Well put.
23 posted on 03/07/2002 9:01:31 AM PST by FourtySeven
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To: d-back
Don't know why you've got a bee in your bonnet over the Catholic League, but I'll bet it stems from problems with the Church.

You’ll never make a living as a gambler.

I have no problem with the Church, dope. I’m Catholic.

I just hate busybodies like Donohue. Really, the guy can’t find a better use for his time than battling against a television show that doesn’t exist?

24 posted on 03/07/2002 9:03:38 AM PST by dead
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To: E Rocc
Agreed. She's no better then all of those guys, feeding off people's problems, and making her audience feel better by putting them down, all cloaked in a false sense of "care" for the person.

She makes me sick. But I don't deny her her right to do it; when I start doing that, I might as well start supporting CFR.

25 posted on 03/07/2002 9:04:29 AM PST by FourtySeven
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To: codebreaker
codebreaker, I'm addressing this to you because it's your thread...but it's really addressed to all the folks who have decided to rail against Mr. Donovan and the Catholic League, and especially those who claim to be "Catholic."

For years, the entertainment industry, liberal educators, self-serving politicians, and their supporters have been "dumbing-down" the populace, insulting religious beliefs, and generally leading us further into the sewer!

Evidently, some of you believe this is justified because to complain against such obvious attacks would be "judgmental" behavior (or worse, infringes on the "rights" of the perpetrator). I suspect many of you think "someone" will step up to the plate to correct the problem...and, "by gosh when they do, they'll get my vote!" Oh, "but if they challenge me to think about my own participation in this moral slide to decay...I'll just sit here on my computer and trash them!"

..."I'm an adult! I expect to be treated like one! I can handle Howard Sterns despicable ranting...It doesn't matter to me! I'll just choose not to watch!" To all of you who think in such terms; Let me be clear:
You are moral cowards who are even more despicable than Howard Stern! You see a person (Stern) who is through his disgusting presentations is tearing down your very core beliefs, your faith, and your family...and you do NOTHING but "label as freaks" the very people and organizations that are trying to put a stop to the real problems associated with a declining moral standard!

Mr. Donohue and the Catholic League have stepped up to the plate! Thank God they have! They are involved in an endless struggle to overcome the corruption people like you allow to happen!

You all can go back now to ignoring the problems; Changing the subject by blaming "Cardinal Law" for every problem in the universe; And defending Howard Stern's right to fill your minds with garbage, while hiding from the idea that you have a responsibility, and duty, as an "equal citizen" under the law to register a protest against the corruption!
...Because, I'm sure someone you "approve of" will eventually take care of the problem so you don't have to bother about getting involved right now.

26 posted on 03/07/2002 9:18:18 AM PST by grumpster-dumpster
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To: grumpster-dumpster; all

We've got to stop these 'cheerleaders' for the loony liberals!

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tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds."

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27 posted on 03/07/2002 9:19:42 AM PST by Jen
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To: codebreaker
For the lukewarm … the message to the church of the Laodiceans (Laodicea means “rule of the people”) the final church in the book of Revelation . [Rev 3:14-22]

“And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

church of the Laodiceans I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou were cold or hot

So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth

Because you say, 'I am rich, have become wealthy, and have need of nothing'--and do not know that you are wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked--

I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire, that you may be rich; and white garments, that you may be clothed, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see

As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne

He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches”.

28 posted on 03/07/2002 9:24:48 AM PST by Fithal the Wise
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To: codebreaker
Thanks for reminding me. I'll have to send another donation to the Catholic League. God bless William Donohue.
29 posted on 03/07/2002 9:34:56 AM PST by AshleyMontagu
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To: codebreaker
I think the Catholic League needs to get off its high horse and pull the anal beads out of its rear. If CBS wants to put that junk on the air great, we/they do not need to watch it. But it will fail because the only people who will watch it are, hopefully, lazy people without jobs, or teenagers.
30 posted on 03/07/2002 9:36:22 AM PST by illbenice
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To: bassmaner
Go ahead, Mr. Donohue, advance your puritanical, holier-than-thou, and hypocritical (considering the pedophila allegations against many Catholic clergy) agenda.

Puritanical and holier-than-thou? Well, maybe.
But your conclusion that Donohue is a hypocrite because of some bad clergy is totally unfair. Those clergy may be guilty of hypocrisy, but what does that have to do with Donohue? How does their bad behavior make him a hypocrite? By your logic, unless every Catholic everywhere were perfect then anyone who defends the Catholic Church is a hypocrite. Do you demand perfection of every member of every group before you brand the group's defenders as hypocrites? Do you apply the same heavy hand to the Boy Scouts? GOP? Masons?
31 posted on 03/07/2002 9:40:08 AM PST by irishjuggler
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To: GoreIsLove
I didn't see the bit at the Grammy's -did it go too long?
32 posted on 03/07/2002 9:42:53 AM PST by codebreaker
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To: dead
With a real name like Gallagher, you probably had Catholic ancestors.
33 posted on 03/07/2002 9:44:50 AM PST by BlackElk
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To: grumpster-dumpster
I see, I get the picture. Censorship is OK so long as we're the censors.
Kooool.
34 posted on 03/07/2002 9:47:43 AM PST by nofriendofbills
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To: grumpster-dumpster
Very good grumpster. If these same folks took a non-judgemental view and applied this standard to the zoning laws in their neighborhoods and towns, then randomly sited billboards, trailerparks, as well as mixed-use zoning with businesses next to residencies, cars on cement blocks, etc., would be the rule of thumb everywhere you might look--not to mention stripper bars and porn shops sandwiched between churches and the schools, with the accompanying vagrants associated with such lack of zoning.

Standards applied mean quality upheld, in everything and everywhere. Maybe those folks all DO live in trailerparks and just don't know any better (bet,though, their the same folks who squawk when some newbie doesn't follow formatting standards). Thank God William Donohue does. V's wife.

35 posted on 03/07/2002 9:48:37 AM PST by ventana
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To: BlackElk
Actually, with a name like Gallagher he could be my cousin.

Poor devil.

36 posted on 03/07/2002 9:50:24 AM PST by nofriendofbills
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To: BlackElk
And Catholic descendents, as well.
37 posted on 03/07/2002 9:50:53 AM PST by dead
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To: d-back
Looking at JohnGalt's profile, his life was changed forever by reading Atlas Shrugged, and How I Found freedom in an Unfree World and one other book. It didn't take much and presumably his life was not changed for the better by being so impressed with objectivist claptrap and mind-candy for the self-absorbed.
38 posted on 03/07/2002 9:52:08 AM PST by BlackElk
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To: bassmaner
Another Libertarian Catholic-basher?????
39 posted on 03/07/2002 9:53:46 AM PST by BlackElk
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To: FourtySeven
Dr. Laura's show failed because she's a judgemental, hypocritical, old witch, not because of the gays.

I don't really care for how she handles her callers. But, you called her hypocritical. Why do you say this?

40 posted on 03/07/2002 9:55:13 AM PST by goodform
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To: nofriendofbills
No, nofriend, if you want to live in a town where the laundry is strung up and down mainstreet, litter is allowed to tumble down the road, and prostitutes lean up against signposts advertising nudie bars which compete with the Post Office's flag for airspace, then charter a town like that and live there. I bet you don't want that kind of a town, though. Well, the FCC controls the public airwaves through my tax dollars, and I don't want Howard Stern garbage polluting the frequency. Donohue's free to voice his concern. Not letting him do so would be true censorship. If folks want to see Howard Stern, go to the Bottom Line and watch a show there. Or get it pay per view. V's wife.
41 posted on 03/07/2002 9:55:23 AM PST by ventana
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To: codebreaker
Saw the replay. Strip searched for security percautions. I just believe that there was a level of decorem involved that used to be observed. Johnny Carson wouldn't strip down to his boxers for a joke. Neither would Letterman.

Carson came out of that 60's/70's Rat Pack, Ring a Ding Ding era where certain activity wasn't touched. Sure they'd get sh-tfaced on Carson's show, or anywhere in public, but they stayed away from that type of humor.

But that's why there'll never be another Carson, different era.

42 posted on 03/07/2002 10:07:57 AM PST by GoreIsLove
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To: dead
How Catholic? Have you any way of knowing?
43 posted on 03/07/2002 10:09:25 AM PST by BlackElk
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To: goodform
What about Dr. Laura's tv show? The sodomites got her shut down.

Actually, the protests turned out to be good for her ratings initially. Her show died because nobody came back to watch it...
44 posted on 03/07/2002 10:11:12 AM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: ventana
I don't want Howard Stern garbage polluting the frequency

How is that not censorship?

45 posted on 03/07/2002 10:11:28 AM PST by GoreIsLove
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To: codebreaker
Johnny Carson and Steve Allen.

Spent my childhood looking forward to being a grown-up one day and enjoying grown-up things.

Thanks to the infantile, peurile, self-centered perpetual adolescents at the tail-end of the baby boom, it was for naught.

I can get better "adult entertainment" and wit off a stall door in some sports stadium.

46 posted on 03/07/2002 10:11:47 AM PST by Askel5
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To: GoreIsLove
How is that not censorship?

How is Stern not an obscenity?

47 posted on 03/07/2002 10:12:44 AM PST by Askel5
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To: GoreIsLove
Johnny Carson wouldn't strip down to his boxers for a joke.

How about a loin cloth?


48 posted on 03/07/2002 10:12:55 AM PST by dead
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To: BlackElk
How Catholic?

Colossally Catholic.

49 posted on 03/07/2002 10:14:49 AM PST by dead
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To: grumpster-dumpster
I agree with you, grumpster-dumpster.

Also, maybe if the Catholic Church wouldn't spend so much time and money taking care of pregnant women, their babies, the poor, and even, sodomites with AIDs, it could spend more time ridding our culture of polutants like Howard Stern and his ilk.

This may be a good opportunity to do just that. It's long overdue for that SCUMBAG, AS*HOLE Stern and his shills to take a fall, his circle jerk supporters notwithstanding.

50 posted on 03/07/2002 10:15:20 AM PST by Hail Caesar
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