Skip to comments.True unbelievers Events of Sept. 11 have atheists "coming out' to face an unaccepting society
Posted on 03/10/2002 4:11:04 AM PST by OldeconomybuyerEdited on 04/13/2004 2:39:50 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Way in the back of an ornate and dimly lit German restaurant in San Francisco, partitioned off from other Saturday night diners, sits a group packed in two long rows of tables. Chewing bratwurst and the fat, they are as old as 80 and as young as 22. They are black, white, Asian, hailing from as far away as Zimbabwe and Australia or as close as Daly City. Some know each other; some are strangers. All seek support and comfort from those who understand.
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"...My spirit shall not always strive with man..." Gen 6:3
Where do athesists think their inner voice of what "we think is right" originates? Believers try to do the right thing, not out of fear of later punishment, but out of a longing for an inner peace that comes from obedience to the life God intended for us to live. Christians can release the guilt of falling short in that quest through repentance and faith in Jesus Christ who lifts that burden from our shoulders.
Amazing. Belief in God provides the absolutes of right and wrong. Without God, there is no right or wrong. These intellectual midgets just don't get IT.
Some quote about secular humanism triumphing over the bloody corpse of Christianity has floated around. It was from an NEA article, publication, or speech.
Carl Sagan was a dedvout renouncer of a belief system.
It's easy to be a naysayer and deny the obvious. Sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees.
Finding ways to communicate with secular humanists effectively could be the way to present Christianity to the Islamo-fascist crowd. Simply expounding on "beliefs" and "feelings" won't work to convince the unbeliever.
"I am convinced that the battle for humankind's future must be waged and won in the public school classroom by teachers who correctly perceive their role as the proselytizers of a new faith, a religion of humanity that recognizes and respects the spark of what theologians call divinity in every human being.
These teachers must embody the same selfless dedication as the most rabid fundamentalist preachers, for they will be ministers of another sort, utilizing a classroom instead of a pulpit to convey humanist values in whatever subject they teach, regardless of the educational level -- preschool day care or large state university.
The classroom must and will become an arena of conflict between the old and the new -- the rotting corpse of Christianity, together with all its adjacent evils and misery, and the new faith of humanism.
Yeah. Caucasians, Christians, and Gun Owners. Oh, and also, anyone who lives in the South or Texas.
Be careful not to lump Christians as intolerant. I think you'll find the lot to be very compassionate in their actions and deeds.
I have several friends who are atheistic/or agnostic. I don't quite understand it, but would not stop being their friend.
The great thing about this forum is that we can discuss these things without wanting to act out agression.
Christians are a fierce group of people, very devout in their faith. If you really look deep down they are concerned for the salvation of your soul. (Not a bad thing in my book...)
So... God bless... and welcome to the best forum out there!
No. Belief in God gives you a cop out: Do what God says or else. It's might makes right with a supernatural twist.
If she thinks that is bad ,she should be a Bible Believing Christian here or as we are called "talibornagains". And that is by our "friends" *grin*
This is flatly an unhistoric statement. Not only did many founding documents, including state constitutions, mention God, but Congress and the several state legislatures employed chaplains from the beginning. Religion provides the moral underpinning of our law, a fact symbolized by the use of religious oaths before testimony and the many religious concepts, such as intention, in the commmon law, owing to its relation to the Justinian Code, a legal code that is undeniably religious. The special place that religious bodies have in our society--as mediate bodies--is not allowed in truly "secular: governments, of whicvh the purest examples are the communists states of Cuba and China. The blatant hostility of such states to religion does not make believers feel much inclinted to listed to the whining of atheists about the minor discomforts under American law. Religion is not "seeping" into a"national policy"; rather it is refilling again its natural place by artificial dikes created by secularist bigots like those in the ACLU and other friends of the these atheists that are gathering in SF. What will they do next: petition that the name of the city be changed?
That's the gist of it.
FWIW, I'm acquainted with several atheists here at FR -- and they don't drive everyone nuts whining about how life done 'em wrong.