A Spy Myth is Born- (Spy? vs Spy, MAD MAD MAD)

New York Post ^ | March 11, 2002 | Daniel Pipes

[Cachelot]

Israel hasn't been afraid to dirty it's nose. They broke into the Peach Bottom nuclear power plant in York, PA, stole equipment, and nothing came of it.

Documentation please. Sources, you know. And please, only reputable ones. That excludes Justine.

[LarryLied]

I know. Veronica has what is happening pegged too. But many others don't. Any most everyone is scurrying down the victim rathole. The spy story just won't go away. Jane's is now reporting it:

Allies and Espionage

A real puzzle. Suggs, Jane's and The Forward are all saying or intimating,the spying occurred. FAIR and Muslim's are defending Suggs. Weird.

[VinnyTex]

Did a quick search for John Scugg and he seems to be a solid leftwinger.

[Cachelot]

Israel hasn't been afraid to dirty it's nose. They broke into the Peach Bottom nuclear power plant in York, PA, stole equipment, and nothing came of it.

Hey, slinky. Maybe you didn't see the request that you document this stuff? Lol. Please don't tuck tail now :). Cough up your sources, please. Or was it really something shared between you and Justine?? Public bath runour?

[Cachelot]

runour=rumour. Geez :).

[LarryLied]

Did a quick search for John Scugg and he seems to be a solid leftwinger.

Jeff Cohen at FAIR defends him..lol

[ValenB4]

Hey, slinky. Maybe you didn't see the request that you document this stuff? Lol. Please don't tuck tail now :). Cough up your sources, please. Or was it really something shared between you and Justine?? Public bath runour?

Why should I bother to respond reasonably to someone like you, who continually shows infantile disrespect, and who is unlikely to believe anything I tell you anyway?

After some searching, I did find some legitimate sources, as well as some whacko ones, but I'm going to leave it to you to find them on your own. Based upon your FR Forum records, you are on FR all day and have plenty of time to do this. On March 18, your last post was at 10:31 PM (PST). I'm glad to see that you managed to fit in 7 hours of sleep as a break from your FR obsession. On March 19, your first post was at 5:46 AM (PST) and you made 15 posts throughout the day at a steady pace until 9:38 PM. There is a similar pattern for March 17. You need to grow up and then get a life. You'd be amazed with the benefits of both being nice to people as well as being engaged in the outside world, which actually does exist.

The only thing I'm wrong about is that it wasn't the Peach Bottom nuclear plant. The incident I'm talking about took place in the 1960s in Apollo, PA.

I will likely not check FR again until after next Wednesday because things get busy again for me. I can't express how much I'm looking forward to hearing from you again.

[Cachelot]

After some searching, I did find some legitimate sources, as well as some whacko ones, but I'm going to leave it to you to find them on your own

In other words, you're lying :).

The only thing I'm wrong about is that it wasn't the Peach Bottom nuclear plant. The incident I'm talking about took place in the 1960s in Apollo, PA.

And for safety's sake you're even juggling "the incident" around a bit.

So, we're left with your assertion (which you refuse to document) that Israel did "something" in the 1960s, at some unspecified time. You're a disgrace, even among your fellow Jihadist shills. Mostly they manage to touch an IQ level of 75 or so.

[ValenB4]

Not so smug now that I ripped you a new one, huh? All right, then. Here you go. LA Times, NY Times. This story had renewed interest during the Pollard expose. I hope you don't think that HE's some sort of hero. There are a lot of extreme anti-Israel sites that spout all sorts of nonsense that I had to sift through. Now this bickering is getting kind of tiresome. Try not to be on FR all day.

http://www.amnotes.net/doc_upi_nuclear.html
http://www.amnotes.net/doc_nytimes_nuclear.html

So, we're left with your assertion (which you refuse to document) that Israel did "something" in the 1960s, at some unspecified time. You're a disgrace, even among your fellow Jihadist shills. Mostly they manage to touch an IQ level of 75 or so.

I am not a Jihadist, I have never said anything anti-Semitic. I have extreme contempt for current Islamic civilization, which is in a seemingly hopeless violent reactionary state. They are always blaming the outside world for all of their ills, which is ridiculous. They are sadly on a collision course with suffering the ultimate wrath at our hands should they fail to bring bring about some sort of internal voluntary reformation.

I think that the West should do everything it can to at first encourage Muslim immigrants to go back to their homeland, perhaps through economic incentives. Maybe after living in the West they can have a positive impact on their home countries. If that doesn't work, and terrorist activities continue in the West, then I think we're going to have to bite the bullet and force them to leave.

Contemporary liberals love to chastise the Spanish for driving the Moors out of their country. But it's a good thing they did. Spain would likely be like the Balkans today had they not done so - and who knows how that would have affected the discovery of the New World. It wouldn't surprise me in the least to see Europe, despite their supposed pacifism, resort to this.

So see you around. But hopefully not anytime soon.

[Cachelot]

Not so smug now that I ripped you a new one, huh? All right, then. Here you go

Lol. As a matter of fact, I allowed you to rip yourself a new one. I did of course know that the Apollo plant had around 200 pounds of Uranium disappear, over a period of several years. Sane newssources and analysts have no particular solution to the mystery, although some speculations were floated at the time.

However, what you had to go and do was show everyone where you hang out. Amnotes is an antisemitic site of the very worst kind - the kind that the FR management doesn't take particularly kindly to posting from, as a matter of fact. Not surprising that they have worked themselves into a frenzy. Or did't you realize that when leafing thorugh the site and finding this on every single page?

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—Do Not Believe or Trust a Jew—
Jews are Arrogant and Self-Serving!
Jews are Sneak Thieves and Liars!
Jews are Deceivers and Betrayers!

Oh, and I cannot resist hanging up the picture that went with it. As much as you insist that you're no antisemite, you should be able to get your "brain" in gear when it's fed to you in cartoon form. But no. So I guess, antisemite is what you are ;).

[ValenB4]

Yeah, you're such a supergenius and was stringing me along. That doesn't make the LA Times and NY Times links wrong.

[Cachelot]

Yeah, you're such a supergenius and was stringing me along.

Well, "Valen", it doesn't take a "supergenius" to blow one of your caliber out of the water, does it?

That doesn't make the LA Times and NY Times links wrong

Let's see. Your assertion was the Israel had broken in and "stolen equipment". And here we're treated to a cheesy "consultant", mouthing off hearsay and speculation which he points out "is not cleared with the FBI". About the fact that this plant seems to have had a bad, bad inventory control. Besides that, they are not "links" to LA Times or NY Times, but html on this Nazi site of yours. So, yes, pretty wrong.

Here's what a watchdog group concerned with nuclear material had to say about the matter:

Between 1957 and 1965, 100 kilograms of uranium 235 disappeared from a nuclear scrap recycling plant in Apollo, Pennsylvania. The material was weapons grade and suitable for making more than one bomb. The president of the firm was reported to have close ties with Israel. The mystery was never solved.

There's an interesting pathology with your kind, and some day I'll do a paper on it. I think I'll call it "The Great Reverse Cargo Cult: How Eevery Brick And Nail In Israel Is Stolen In America". Interestingly, the Nazis also does admit that the Jews have brains to spare, but they insist that every Jewish invention is somehow stolen from them. Must be why their heads are so darned empty, the joos stole ther brains ;))).

[ValenB4]

"There's an interesting pathology with your kind, and some day I'll do a paper on it. I think I'll call it "The Great Reverse Cargo Cult: How Eevery Brick And Nail In Israel Is Stolen In America". Interestingly, the Nazis also does admit that the Jews have brains to spare, but they insist that every Jewish invention is somehow stolen from them. Must be why their heads are so darned empty, the joos stole ther brains ;))).

My kind?! Haven't you read what I put in the other posts on this thread? About how I said that Israel must be protected, about how its borders make no sense? There's no way to have a rational discussion with you. There are many Jews in Israel who don't believe that the current policies are the right ones. Are they also Nazis and anti-Semites? Creating monsters out every questioning voice is a severe form of paranoia. What do you think is the ultimate way to solve this problem?

[Cachelot]

My kind?! Haven't you read what I put in the other posts on this thread?

Sorry, when you hang around Nazi sites for arguments against Israel, you automagically nullify anything you say. Now, if you had anything but prppaganda in mind, you wouldn't be running around with this kind of stupid stuff like "breakins" and "stolen equipment" and yadda, yadda, yadda. You'd have looked at the facts (and there's nothing credible that points at breakins or any other misdeed by Israel) - and avoided putting both your feet in your mouth at the same time and with considerable force.

[ValenB4]

This is crazy. I admitted freely where I was wrong. I had originally thought it was Peach Bottom. But the LA Times is not a Nazi site (perhaps a communist site). But you also disregard where I defend Israel. Again I ask, what is the manner in which you think this problem should be solved?

[Cachelot]

I admitted freely where I was wrong

Yes. But only about where this break-in thing was supposed to have taken place.

In fact, when looked at, the whole thing you served up appears to be made out of whole cloth, and the "substitute" is on a Nazi site. Does the word "credibility" mean anything to you?

[B-Man]

"His curve is towards the obscene publication of unbridled slander and innuendo and wide ranging, farflung speculation. No journalist, he. Bottom of the barrel scum."

Good to see you zionist neocons can construct rational arguments rather than just namecalling. Keep it up. The more you open your collective mouths the more hollow rings your cause.