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UN SEEKS GLOBAL TAXATION AT MONTERRAY: $1.7 Trillion per year
The Washington Times ^ | 3/18/02 | Bruce Bartlett

Posted on 03/18/2002 7:10:24 PM PST by DrLiberty

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:52:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Today the United Nations convenes a major conference in Monterrey, Mexico, on the need to sharply increase foreign aid. President Bush will be heavily pressured to go along when he addresses the conference Friday.

The plight of the developing world cannot be exaggerated. Poverty, disease, unemployment and a general sense of hopelessness affect most of the world's population. It is impossible not to be moved by their condition and want to help.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: globaltax; tobintax; un; worldgovernment
Although the article doesn't report this, the major item on the agenda is to push through what was formerly called the Tobin Tax (Tobin has recently passed on), which would tax all international financial transactions.

This would be a taxation beyond the ability of the American people to control. All these monies would pass thru UN institutions, and the estimated amount YEARLY that is being proposed equals $1.7 Trillion, only slightly less that the current budget for the United States of America.

Can you imagine how much LIBERALISM and SOCIALISM will be pushed on us through The United Nations if this is allowed to go forward? The UN will finally have its own military and will become a de facto world government, as it always was intended to be.

Will our President George Bush stop this, or will he cave in?

1 posted on 03/18/2002 7:10:24 PM PST by DrLiberty
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To: DrLiberty
Although the article doesn't report this, the major item on the agenda is to push through what was formerly called the Tobin Tax (Tobin has recently passed on), which would tax all international financial transactions.

This would be a taxation beyond the ability of the American people to control.

Hmmmmmm.... My gut reaction is against taxation by the UN.

OTOH, Willie Green doesn't engage in international financial transactions, therefor the tax wouldn't apply to me.

AND a tax on international financial transactions would tend to hinder international financial transactions, THUS HINDERING GLOBALISM!!!

Hmmmmm.... I'm gonna hafta think more about this one!!!

2 posted on 03/18/2002 7:19:01 PM PST by Willie Green
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To: DrLiberty
He shocked us with is endorsement of alien amnesty. He won't, however, permit this to happen. If he does, even I (die-hard supporter and campaigner for Bush) will finally re-assess my vote the next presidential election. That said, I'm confident he won't go for this nonsense.
3 posted on 03/18/2002 7:24:17 PM PST by fire and forget
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To: fire and forget
They'll keep trying until they get a President and Senate that will agree to this tax. The only solution is US withdrawl from the UN.
4 posted on 03/18/2002 7:26:31 PM PST by chadmaster
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To: chadmaster
Either that or the UN retreats into a strict role of diplomacy in which it might, although somewhat redundant, actually do some good. Emphasis on might since diplomacy was essentially the function of the UN's ill-fated and impotent predecessor, the League of Nations. The UN as presently constituted is a dysfunctional, socialist body that can only harm the interests of America and all mankind. I'm all for our withdrawal from membership and its eradication, but not even the most conservative of our leaders seem willing to openly advocate that.

I expect that would change once the populace of this nation had a sudden paradigm and saw things as they really are, resulting in a dramatic reconstitution of Congress. That's what we labor for. That's why we're here.

5 posted on 03/18/2002 7:38:31 PM PST by fire and forget
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To: fire and forget
*bump*
6 posted on 03/18/2002 9:01:41 PM PST by DrLiberty
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To: DrLiberty
Perhaps there is one place in NYC where a small suitcase nuke would make an improvement
7 posted on 03/18/2002 9:07:32 PM PST by Governor StrangeReno
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To: DrLiberty
The UN brand of the New World Order....now funded. That would be a very bad move for America!
8 posted on 03/18/2002 9:26:57 PM PST by hove
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To: DrLiberty
Clean
Resize
Prime
Fill
Seat
Crimp
Practice...and get ready...
9 posted on 03/18/2002 9:37:11 PM PST by Buffalo Bob
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To: Willie Green
OTOH, Willie Green doesn't engage in international financial transactions, therefor the tax wouldn't apply to me

Oh Willie Green, I'll bet you pay for more international transactions than you think.

That $1.7 trillion isn't going to just appear from the ether. Who do you think is going to pay it? People who work pay for everything. The only way you can avoid the U.N. tax is to quit working and quit spending.

10 posted on 03/18/2002 9:39:15 PM PST by nicepaco
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To: Governor StrangeReno
Maybe we can achieve a better result politically. Maybe. It's sure worth fighting for, given what's at stake.
11 posted on 03/18/2002 10:03:06 PM PST by fire and forget
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To: DrLiberty
Will bet twenty bucks to a meadow muffin that Dubya folds.
12 posted on 03/18/2002 10:18:24 PM PST by edger
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To: Willie Green
OTOH, Willie Green doesn't engage in international financial transactions, therefor the tax wouldn't apply to me.

Wille Green doesn't use automobiles? Most oil is imported and that's an international financial transaction. Willie Green didn't pay for the computer he wrote that message on? Most of the chips inside were manufactured in Asia.

Anything crossing national boundaries, both imports and exports, will be effected by this. What's worse is that it will be outside the possibility of control and accountability to the US taxpayer.

13 posted on 03/18/2002 10:39:59 PM PST by altair
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To: DrLiberty
Just Say No! The UN must not be allowed to tax.
14 posted on 03/18/2002 10:41:58 PM PST by altair
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To: chadmaster
Question: Wouldn't it be unconstitutional to enact a Tobin Tax whose funds went to the UN, even if approved by the Senate? It's just like the International Criminal Court thing: If the Senate agreed on some treaty that allowed for a court higher than that of the US Supreme Court, it would never matter because it would be unconstitutional. The federal level of the US government is the highest level of government our citizens can ever be responsible to, PERIOD. Right?
15 posted on 03/18/2002 10:57:49 PM PST by Timesink
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To: nicepaco
The only way you can avoid the U.N. tax is to quit working and quit spending.

Or to buy "Made in USA" !!!

16 posted on 03/19/2002 4:58:32 AM PST by Willie Green
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To: altair; nicepaco
Anything crossing national boundaries, both imports and exports, will be effected by this. What's worse is that it will be outside the possibility of control and accountability to the US taxpayer.

I agree that it would be better if we exerted our sovereignty to implement our own revenue tariffs.
But what the heck, this tax is placed on globalists, not Americans.

17 posted on 03/19/2002 5:05:13 AM PST by Willie Green
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To: Timesink
Wouldn't it be unconstitutional to enact a Tobin Tax whose funds went to the UN, even if approved by the Senate?

No. The Tobin tax is placed on international financial transactions and occurs outside the jurisdiction and protection of our Constitution. It is a tax on globalists, not American citizens.

18 posted on 03/19/2002 5:08:53 AM PST by Willie Green
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To: DrLiberty
UN plans for global dominance left the realm of the academic long ago. By attending this meeting Mr Bush is legitimizing the idea that non-elected, non-US officials have sway over the United States. Especially by attending a meeting about TAXING US CITIZENS AGAINST THEIR WILL, it very much sends the WRONG message to the AMERICAN People.
19 posted on 03/19/2002 5:13:21 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: Willie Green
Huh? The tax is only against globalists? It won't hurt US citizens? How about if it takes our citizenship and sovereignty away and forces us into the global communism that everyone in the UN thinks is so cool?

Towards a Socially Responsible and Democratic System of Global Governance (Tobin Tax)

We are now witnessing the collapse of the fundamentalist liberal paradigm in the face of the obvious weakness of an unregulated capital market. It is essential that the world moves towards a socially just and socially responsible globalisation which secures a degree of equity both between and within countries. The requirement at this time is for the development at a supranational level, both regionally and globally, of those mechanisms of social policy that are no longer adequate if only existing at national level. The need is for:

· regional and global social redistribution
· regional and global social regulation
· regional and global social empowerment (of poor people and poor countries)
20 posted on 03/19/2002 5:22:52 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer
Huh? The tax is only against globalists? It won't hurt US citizens? How about if it takes our citizenship and sovereignty away and forces us into the global communism that everyone in the UN thinks is so cool?

Globalists aren't my fellow countrymen. I could care less if the global commies tax the living hell outa them. Communism has been proven to be a failed economic system that collapses under the weight of its own tyranny. This tax is the first step towards that collapse -- it encourages each nation to be more self-sufficient and less involved in international trade (in order to minimize tax obligations). As usual, the commies don't understand the implications of the taxes they seek to impose -- they are self-defeating!!!

This is fine by me!!!

"Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains."

--Thomas Jefferson to Horatio G. Spafford, 1814. ME 14:119

"We are infinitely better off without treaties of commerce with any nation."

--Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1815.


21 posted on 03/19/2002 7:24:01 AM PST by Willie Green
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To: chadmaster
19 January 2000 Senator Jesse Helms (R-NC) Speech to the United Nations Security Council ........................... this is a great speech addressing why we (USA) do not want to have anything to do with the UN. available on the website for the Center for Security Policy. www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org
22 posted on 03/19/2002 9:20:07 AM PST by iopscusa
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To: Willie Green
Please read The Charter for Global Democracy and tell me it won't effect you.

Principle number 3 demands an independent source of revenue for the UN, such as the "Tobin tax" and taxes on aircraft and shipping fuels, and licensing the use of the global commons. The "global commons" are defined to be "outer space, the atmosphere, non-territorial seas, and the related environment that supports human life."

Related environment can conceivably be the air you breathe. Do note that the west coast of the United States gets pollution blown across the Pacific from China, Canada has complained for years about acid rain coming from the south, etc. Communications satellites will require licensing of outer space.

23 posted on 03/19/2002 2:27:16 PM PST by altair
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To: altair
I support U.S. withdrawel from the U.N., NATO, WTO, NAFTA etc. etc.
RINO globalists oppose me on this.
It is fitting that the UN should tax the RINO globalists.
24 posted on 03/19/2002 2:53:07 PM PST by Willie Green
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To: DrLiberty;Willie Green;fire and forget;chadmaster;Governor StrangeReno;hove;Buffalo Bob;nicepaco...
U.S. spurns renewed calls for world tax (Bush says NO WAY to UN Global Taxation!)
25 posted on 03/20/2002 1:57:00 PM PST by Timesink
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To: Timesink
I knew he would when he announced his 5 billion dollar aid package. I still worry though. The UN will hold out for a "favorable" president. Our best bet is getting the Senate back under control - and keeping it.
26 posted on 03/20/2002 9:52:09 PM PST by chadmaster
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To: Timesink
Thanks for the link. Good information in this time when conservatives are in turmoil about the president they fought so hard to get elected (and the disaster they averted by preventing Gore from gaining the office). With CFR and alien amnesty causing so many to apparently jump ship, good news about our President's calls is nice to hear.

Bush needs to start reconnecting with those of us who sacrificed time and resources to get him elected and clearly spell out why he's doing what he's doing. He's the President. He knows a lot more than we do, and his superior knowledge is likely governing the courses he chooses. To the extent he can, he needs to convince us of that.

27 posted on 03/21/2002 2:34:22 PM PST by fire and forget
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To: DrLiberty,fire and forget,chadmaster,altair,iopscusa


28 posted on 03/21/2002 3:23:37 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Timesink
Cool. This is not the time to get wobbly.
29 posted on 03/21/2002 3:25:34 PM PST by altair
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To: Willie Green
It might hinder U.S. corporate globalism, but it would give the globo-socialists enough financial clout to easily take over the world - something they can't currently do without vast amounts of financial assistance and acquiescense from Western nations.
30 posted on 03/21/2002 3:29:03 PM PST by Melinator
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To: fire and forget
LOL. Good one.
31 posted on 03/21/2002 3:29:43 PM PST by Melinator
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