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Long-Destroyed Fifth Planet May Have Caused Lunar Cataclysm, Researchers Say
SPACE dot COM ^ | 18 March 2002 ,posted: 03:00 pm ET | By Leonard David, Senior Space Writer

Posted on 03/25/2002 2:42:10 PM PST by vannrox

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To: vannrox

Maybe Planet #5 was too busy talking on its cell phone and drove into oncoming planets.


121 posted on 10/25/2005 3:22:54 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: BlueLancer

That red space suit is sure stylin' but it looks like it broke.

Good to see you posting again, buddy.


122 posted on 10/25/2005 4:55:03 PM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat [Quicquid peius optimo nefas])
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To: RadioAstronomer

Flapdoodle?

I don't recall hearing that term in my Astronomy 101 class.

I guess that is some of that high falutin PhD jargon, right Doc?


123 posted on 10/25/2005 4:58:40 PM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat [Quicquid peius optimo nefas])
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To: L,TOWM
Flapdoodle?

It was an appropriate response to an entire scientific discipline being made out to be frauds, cheats, and liars.

124 posted on 10/26/2005 4:53:24 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Fred Nerks

Sorry. The evidence does not support this assertion.


125 posted on 10/26/2005 5:29:51 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Boomer Geezer

"THIS is Ceti Alpha V!"

126 posted on 10/26/2005 5:38:32 AM PDT by Sloth (You being wrong & me being closed-minded are not the same thing, nor are they mutually exclusive.)
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To: RightWhale
Why did it explode?

Perhaps Jupiter's gravity ended up ripping it apart? That's been my theory about the asteroid belt, that it's the remains of a planet that couldn't handle the relationship with Jupiter. I don't know how that fits into this theory in the article.

127 posted on 10/26/2005 5:46:48 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (You nonconformists are all the same.)
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To: RightWhale; ovrtaxt

A model of early solar system formation (and there is evidence supporting such) describes that metal, such as Nickel-iron, rock, and ice condensed out from the accretion disk created as our solar system formed. The metals condensed out first (this is why many of the asteroids are Nickel-iron) Followed by rocky material and ice. These tiny particles then collided creating small boulders and asteroids.

Once these small asteroids and boulders have enough mass, gravity becomes the driving force. Thusly the planets and moons are formed. However, since Jupiter is so large and the total mass of the asteroid belt is so tiny, the material forming the asteroid belt never was "allowed" to form a small planet or moon because of the gravitational perturbations from Jupiter. Remember the asteroid belt has less mass than 1 tenth of our moon.

Finally the solar wind from the newly formed star (our sun) would blow all of the remaining gas into interstellar space leaving us with the planets, moons, comets, asteroids, etc. circling our little star.

Note: This is a really simplified version. There is much (volumes of data) I did not include.


128 posted on 10/26/2005 6:26:46 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: RadioAstronomer

Thx. Did not know that the mass of the asteroid belt was so low. I guess my theory is gone with the wind.


129 posted on 10/26/2005 6:32:23 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (You nonconformists are all the same.)
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To: Southack

You need to reread all my posts here on this thread. I believe I have answered all of your assertions.


130 posted on 10/26/2005 6:33:25 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: ovrtaxt
Thx

You are most welcome. :-)

131 posted on 10/26/2005 6:34:57 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: RadioAstronomer



The author is quoting from literature, not making assertions. You may if you wish, direct your comment to Democritus, Anaxagoras and Aristotle, Appolonius of Rhodes and Plutarch would no doubt also be pleased to hear from you.

What is it about ancient literature, myths and legends you find so threatening?


132 posted on 10/26/2005 2:04:03 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand islam understand evil - read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf see link My Page)
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To: Fred Nerks
What is it about ancient literature, myths and legends you find so threatening?

In this case I don't find them threatening, just wrong.

133 posted on 10/26/2005 4:48:34 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: RadioAstronomer

Sorry. The evidence does not support this assertion.
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The author is quoting from literature, not making assertions. You may if you wish, direct your comment to Democritus, Anaxagoras and Aristotle, Appolonius of Rhodes and Plutarch would no doubt also be pleased to hear from you.
What is it about ancient literature, myths and legends you find so threatening?
....
In this case I don't find them threatening, just wrong.
....
You mean to tell me you believe the ancient sources were liars, mistaken or...the author misquoted?


134 posted on 10/26/2005 5:02:21 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand islam understand evil - read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf see link My Page)
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To: Fred Nerks
You mean to tell me you believe the ancient sources were liars, mistaken or...the author misquoted?

Mistaken.

The tools we have these days to study the Earth, solar system, and universe were not even dreamed of back then must less utilized.

135 posted on 10/26/2005 5:06:47 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: medved
"Click Image Above for Full Size NASA Images"

NASA is a major producer of little red X's

136 posted on 10/26/2005 5:23:34 PM PDT by norton (This is not about the DIA or the CIA. This is about CYA...)
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To: RadioAstronomer

"The memory of a world without a moon lives in oral tradition among the Indians. The Indians of the Bogota highlands in the eastern Cordilleras of Colombia relate some of their tribal reminiscences to the time before there was a moon. “In the earliest times, when the moon was not yet in the heavens,” say the tribesmen of Chibchas..."

So, the Chibchas of the Bogota highlands must have had acces to the writings of Hippolytus, Lucian and Censorinus thus becoming persuaded to be equally 'mistaken'?

I don't know what to believe. 'The tools we have these days' or the evidence of the lying eyes of observant people such as quoted by ancient Greeks, Romans, Hebrews and 'Indians' of South America.

The greatest 'tool' we have is inside our cranium. I'm keeping an open mind. I do this in memory of Bruno and Immanuel Velikovsky.


137 posted on 10/26/2005 5:29:59 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand islam understand evil - read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf see link My Page)
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To: norton

Medved has long been banned from this forum. Look at the thread date.


138 posted on 10/26/2005 5:34:31 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: RadioAstronomer


proud?


139 posted on 10/26/2005 5:43:02 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand islam understand evil - read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf see link My Page)
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To: Fred Nerks
I keep an open mind as well. However, the evidence is overwhelming that the Moon has been with us for billions of years. Also the ideas put forth by Immanuel Velikovsky in his book “Worlds in Collision” were shown to have been in error.
140 posted on 10/26/2005 5:43:09 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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