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In Seminaries, New Ways for a New Generation
The New York Times ^ | March 25, 2002 | LAURIE GOODSTEIN

Posted on 03/25/2002 4:54:18 PM PST by PadreL

MUNDELEIN, Ill., March 22 — In the next three months, 43 men who have trained here at the nation's largest Roman Catholic seminary are to be ordained as priests. They include a former soybean farmer, an astronomer, a former minor league baseball player and a Vietnamese-American who feels a debt to the church that saved his refugee family.

This class of seminarians has been selected and shaped in radically different ways than the generations before it. The seminarians have been subjected to Rorschach tests and criminal background checks, and interviewed about their dating history and sexual orientation.

Throughout their training, they have had to worry not only about their grades, but also about surviving regular evaluations from fellow students, psychologists and laypeople, each of whom, with enough critical comments, could have derailed their march to the priesthood.

Seminaries now offer courses on topics once considered taboo — sexuality, addiction and the struggle to be celibate. Seminarians study the history and theology of celibacy in the Catholic tradition, talk about it in confidential sessions with their spiritual directors, and listen to priests share their own struggles to keep their vows.

The talk at Catholic seminaries today is about the need to produce a new breed of priest: spiritually prepared and psychologically and emotionally mature. After nearly two decades of scandals involving sexual abuse by priests — in some cases priests who preyed upon their seminary students — some Catholic leaders concluded that seminaries themselves were part of the problem. Now they are trying to make seminaries the solution.

Among those in the forefront has been this school about 35 miles northwest of Chicago, the University of St. Mary of the Lake, also known as Mundelein Seminary, which agreed to grant a reporter access to its seminarians and administrators for wide-ranging discussions.

In more than two dozen interviews here, students and faculty members said they were grief-stricken over the church's latest sexual abuse scandals, and also angry. Not at the bishops who protected the abusers, but at the priests who, as one student put it, "have brought us all down."

They said they expected that wherever they went in their Roman collars, they would be suspect. Yet the students expressed a confident idealism that they would be the priests who restore the trust broken by the previous generation.

"I think we're going to see a whole different priesthood in this next generation," said Deacon Burke Masters, 35, the former baseball player, who will be ordained in June in the Diocese of Joliet. "The guys here are solid, we're talking openly about these issues, and we've been prepared well."

It used to be that the road to the priesthood was a straight march beginning in parochial school, through a high school seminary, a college seminary and finally a graduate-level institution like Mundelein, which is run by the Archdiocese of Chicago. Unless he displayed some egregious academic or behavioral failing, a candidate was promoted from one institution to the next, and had become a priest by the time he turned 24 or so. He may not have known himself very well, but he and his family were usually known by the bishop or priests in the diocese.

When I was in college, we just moved up," said the Rev. August Belauskas, Mundelein's vice rector and dean of admissions. "No one asked me personal questions about relationships or my family or even why I wanted to become a priest."

These days, many of the men who show up at bishops' offices saying they want to be priests are unfamiliar faces. They have already had careers and life experiences, and on average they are in their early 30's.

Take the first-year seminarians at Mundelein, 48 of them sitting in the Rev. Robert Barron's introductory course "Doctrine of God." They included a 911 operator, an obstetrician-gynecologist, an actor and two prison guards. Only a few had come to seminary the old way — straight from college seminaries. Seven were from other countries. Two were Catholic converts.

Given this diversity, the screening starts in the chancery office. A candidate must first be vetted in his diocese, which is expected to pay his tuition, and then go through a second admissions process in the seminary. Forty-six bishops from around the country send their candidates to Mundelein, one of 51 American seminaries. From then on, the road to the priesthood is full of false starts, obstacles and scrutiny.

"We ask them things nobody ever asked me," Father Belauskas said.

Among the questions: Are you sexually attracted to young people? Have you fathered a child out of wedlock? Do you frequent gay bars or singles bars?

A yes to any of these questions automatically disqualifies a candidate, as does a positive result on the mandatory H.I.V. test, Father Belauskas said.

Homosexual orientation is not grounds for rejection, but participation in a gay lifestyle or gay sex is. Catholic teaching holds that homosexual orientation is not a sin, but homosexual behavior is. All priest candidates, no matter their sexual orientation, must convince the admissions interviewers that they have remained celibate for two years before they applied to seminary.

"What we look for is a person who is generally healthy," Father Belauskas said. "There's no pathology, their motivations are good, they're capable of growing spiritually and they display qualities of generosity, compassion, dedication and love of other people."

John Fain, a sharp 28-year-old, must have been a strong candidate when he applied in the Diocese of Lansing. He was already working as a director of religious education in a parish there. He is also a military officer — an ensign in a Navy program that trains military chaplains.

Nevertheless, like all other applicants, he had to sit for three interviews with seminary administrators and faculty, write an autobiography and submit letters of recommendation. He also spent a day taking a barrage of common psychological tests: the Minnesota Multi-Phased Inventory, the Thematic Apperception Test, the Rorschach.

"I went through more screening to get into the seminary than to get a security clearance in the military," Mr. Fain said over lunch in the dining hall with four other students, who laughed in agreement.

But none of these tests, psychologists say, can identify a potential pedophile or sexual abuser. Experts say that such problems often do not emerge until later, when someone is under stress, struggling with substance abuse or has access to children. Mundelein administrators acknowledge that their screening is not foolproof.

"We're not infallible," said the Rev. Thomas Baima, Mundelein's vice president and provost. "We can't know, and I pray to God every day that we don't miss something. But it's not going to be for want of trying."

Catholic leaders say they are well aware that they have had to become more selective just when the church is most desperate for new priests. The shortage has built over 40 years, while the Catholic population in the United States grew with an influx of Hispanic and Asian immigrants. In 1960, there were 54,682 priests serving 42 million Catholics, one for every 768 Catholics. By 2000, there were 46,603 priests serving 62 million Catholics, one for every 1,330 of the faithful.

Despite the shortage, diocesan vocation directors are not opening the door to every Catholic male who knocks. The Archdiocese of Chicago, which as one of the more successful recruiters can afford to be more selective, received 130 applications for seminary students last year and forwarded only 30 to Mundelein, Father Baima said. But even with its rigorous admissions process, Mundelein accepts almost everyone. In all, the bishops sent 80 candidates to Mundelein last year, and the seminary admitted 75. Sometimes those who are rejected apply to other seminaries, and sometimes they get in, Catholic officials said in interviews.

But being admitted to seminary is only the first hurdle. Seminary training lasts four years, and many students take a remedial year of "pre-theology." Many do not last. Mundelein has 224 students, and every year an average of 10 percent leave, Father Baima said — either on their own or because they are dismissed.

John Boucher, 37, was among the students who in interviews openly admitted that they were using their time at Mundelein to decide whether the priesthood was their calling. A mechanical engineer who left his job making Velcro products in New Hampshire, he is a first-year pre-theology student.

"I've always wanted to get married and have a family, and I still do," Mr. Boucher said. "This may sound overly dramatic, but I feel like I'm Abraham and I'm bringing Isaac up the mountain. Isaac is my future wife and children, and I'm asking God whether they should be sacrificed."

He said he had come to the seminary because "I was feeling I was living the wrong life." He said he wanted to devote himself to something more meaningful than making Velcro.

But still, he said, he was uncertain about celibacy. He talks it over in regular sessions with a counselor, a married layman provided by Mundelein. He acknowledged that in the Bible, God ultimately told Abraham not to sacrifice Isaac.

"If I leave this, I may go into education," he said.

In the past, most seminaries treated doubts about celibacy as a matter for private prayer and confession. Now it is openly discussed from Day 1 of orientation, and in courses and seminars every year.

Students and faculty members alike refuted the notion that more than half of today's seminarians are gay, an idea that gained credibility with the publication in 2000 of the book "The Changing Face of the Priesthood: A Reflection of the Priest's Crisis of the Soul" (Liturgical Press), by the Rev. Donald B. Cozzens, a former rector at St. Mary Seminary and Graduate School of Theology in Cleveland.

Father Cozzens pointed out that many of the priests accused of abuse targeted not prepubescent children but adolescent boys. His book furthered the discussion of whether a preponderance of immature homosexual men in the priesthood helped give rise to the sexual abuse scandals.

In an interview in the rector's office, a trio of Mundelein's top officials said they believed that the root cause was not homosexual priests, but a seminary system that was once closed and unaccountable to the outside world.

They have set out to change that, said Mundelein's president and rector, the Very Rev. John F. Canary, who has thought about the issue more than most. Ten years ago, as vicar for priests, Father Canary was responsible for rooting out sexual abusers in the Archdiocese of Chicago.

The cure, he said, is openness and accountability. His seminarians serve internships in parishes and hospitals. Afterward the staff and parishioners send evaluations to the seminary. Seminarians have cars and are free to come and go. They are counseled by psychologists who are laypeople. And if they should experience or detect abuse on the part of their peers or faculty, they know they should report it to their advisers.

"Where systems are turned in on themselves, like in orphanages, problems can occur. When you have open systems, it's a healthier environment," Father Canary said. "These seminarians understand much better than we understood when we were ordained the professional responsibilities that are entrusted to them."

At the request of his students, Father Canary appeared in the dining room last Thursday night to talk about the scandal gripping the church. For over an hour he responded to their anguished questions about pedophilia, whether bishops covered it up, and how they can be certain it won't happen again. At the end, he passed out copies of the Chicago Archdiocese's policy on sexual abuse, a document he helped write and a model used across the country.

The session helped comfort the students, who this week return to their home dioceses for Holy Week anticipating that parishioners will put the same questions to them.

"We are confident and unafraid," said Jerry Arano-Ponce, a third-year seminarian from the Diocese of Kansas City, "because we know we are being better formed than priests were 30 or 40 years ago."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: catholicchurch; catholiclist; priesthood
An interesting article. It may have been posted already, if so, I am sorry.

Pray for priests.

1 posted on 03/25/2002 4:54:18 PM PST by PadreL
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To: father_elijah; Antoninus; aposiopetic; Salvation; ELS; nina0113; Steve0113; el_chupacabra...
Bumping. Let me know if you want on or off the list. Click my screen name for a description.

patent

2 posted on 03/25/2002 5:00:06 PM PST by patent
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To: PadreL
I meant to post this earlier but didn't get to it. I don't think its been posted yet.

patent

3 posted on 03/25/2002 5:01:05 PM PST by patent
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To: PadreL
A good tone.
4 posted on 03/25/2002 5:02:41 PM PST by WriteOn
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To: patent;PadreL
Thanks for a breath of fresh air! It's really good to know that these future priests seem prepared and unafraid to tackle the problems.
5 posted on 03/25/2002 5:16:53 PM PST by grumpster-dumpster
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To: WriteOn
Bump
6 posted on 03/25/2002 5:19:15 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: PadreL
Good article. Thanks for posting.
7 posted on 03/25/2002 5:19:17 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: patent
Thanks for the ping, this really looks interesting! ;-D
9 posted on 03/25/2002 5:20:38 PM PST by Judith Anne
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To: patent
This looks like a good start on the basis of a quick read but does cause a concern.In this era of poor catechesis,conflicting theories of the genesis of homosexuality and this huge scandal I think it poor practice to admit persons with homosexual proclivities into the seminaries.

When the Church has cleansed itself which will take ten years at least,then in the light of truth the whole issue can be reconsidered. Until then it is not fair to the laity and even less to the priest,especially if his proclivity is known(and a two year history of chastity means that past relationships may be revealed by others). I feel ugly and mean saying this and I do believe the ones who are to be ordained probably should be but no more for ten years.

10 posted on 03/25/2002 5:28:54 PM PST by saradippity
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To: PadreL
I'm somewhat familiar with St. Mary of the Lake in Mundelein, because the religious orders of monks and nuns who are faithful to the Church--as opposed to the more liberal orders that are shriveling away because they have betrayed the spirit of their founders--meet there annually and have their headquarters there, I believe. I have been getting their newsletter for many years as a small way of showing support for them. I think it's a good place.

For those who are interested, the seminary's web page is at http://www.vocations.org/.

11 posted on 03/25/2002 5:29:43 PM PST by Cicero
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To: PadreL
Thank you, Padre L. This is a fine article.
12 posted on 03/25/2002 5:36:19 PM PST by father_elijah
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To: saradippity
I feel ugly and mean saying this and I do believe the ones who are to be ordained probably should be but no more for ten years.

Then you'll be encouraging lying.

Ten years? You won't have any seminarians under 40.

13 posted on 03/25/2002 5:40:26 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: PadreL
One of the best priests I know (now he's in Chicago) was like this. He was a Financial Advisor, made good money, etc., for years. But he said he also felt the call. Finally, medicine got good enough (he has a heart condition) that he could join a seminary.

He's in his mid-40's. Just got ordained about 3 or 4 years ago. His sermons are phenomenal, he made my wife cry on a constant basis with them.

And yeah, when we had him over for dinner one time, he made the same comment I see in this article. "They're spoiling it for the rest of us." They being the homosexuals.

Go figure.

14 posted on 03/25/2002 6:14:56 PM PST by Mr. Thorne
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To: PadreL
Wonderful article. I pray that this comes true.
15 posted on 03/25/2002 6:49:19 PM PST by Salvation
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To: patent;maica;Freee-dame
Please put me on your ping list. Thanks.

(T.M., graduate of a Jesuit high school in 1975.)

16 posted on 03/25/2002 7:48:53 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: PadreL
Thanks so much for posting this article Padre! I read it this morning and e-mailed it to myself so I can send it to my brother in law when he gets his new cable internet connection! He has been saying for years that one big problem with celibacy in the Church has been that it has not been TAUGHT properly! Even when he was in the seminary in the late 60's, some of the professors were telling these young men not to worry about celibacy because the Church would probably be changing the rule soon. So a lot of young men were ordained believing something that was not true! HE knew it wouldn't be changed, but there were some who wanted desperately to believe it!

We have had several seminarians at our Parish during the past few summers, and most have been 'late' vocations. I like it that these men have some idea of how the real world works before they entered the priesthood. They have been professionals, but felt something missing and opened themselves to God's call. And they tend to be more Orthodox as well, which is a REAL bonus! Pray for vocations, folks, and for the priests we have now!

17 posted on 03/25/2002 8:14:46 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: dansangel
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18 posted on 03/25/2002 11:15:17 PM PST by .45MAN
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To: saradippity;dansangel
Homosexual orientation is not grounds for rejection, but participation in a gay lifestyle or gay sex is. Catholic teaching holds that homosexual orientation is not a sin, but homosexual behavior is. All priest candidates, no matter their sexual orientation, must convince the admissions interviewers that they have remained celibate for two years before they applied to seminary.

Celibacey is the issue here not homosexual orientation, a non celibate priest is the same either way. The lay people need to force the churches back to the straight and narrow, without the help of the conservative lay people the church will not be able to repair itself.

We are to blame as well as the nuns and priests. We have not made ourselves heard! It's always ,"well someone will do something" and then we sit back and complain when things go bad. Pointing your finger does nothing but point three fingers back at yourself. It's time to show yourselves to the church and to the world, being a real Roman Catholic is harder than you think it's something that needs to be lived everyday.

19 posted on 03/25/2002 11:34:02 PM PST by .45MAN
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To: sinkspur
There is a new breed of young orthodox priests and they are not homosexual.They follow the teachings of the Magisterium and are in union with the Holy Father.They will attract like men.They were aware of the sacrifices they were making and they will save the Church. That is as long as we don't make a couple of end runs introducing new "disciplines" or removing old ones.
20 posted on 03/25/2002 11:43:29 PM PST by saradippity
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To: sinkspur
Under no circumstances did I mean that a man who had openly declared his homosexuality, or acted on it,should be ordained. My statement was made about the ones who were psychologically profiled and perhaps been determined to have had homosexual tendencies.If they had never acted on them or supported homosexuality as normal and had been accepted despite the testing I think ordination would be acceptable. I would assume that any mature adult has wondered about homosexuality and thought about people's attractiveness. On a test would that register as a homosexual tendency? Who knows? I know I am not clear but these tests make a significant difference because they could be misused and,or designed poorly. I think this is a whole new wrinkle and needs to be reviewed carefully.
21 posted on 03/26/2002 12:02:36 AM PST by saradippity
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To: patent
Thanks for the ping... IMHO a person does not need to be enrolled in seminary to serve the Lord... I don't think this is what you were suggesting, but it is worth pointing out...

David

22 posted on 03/26/2002 2:53:37 AM PST by davidosborne
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To: PadreL
I'll pray for anyone who has a vocation, but I sure hope someone bothers to ask these seminarians whether they like gladiator films before they let them settle in.
23 posted on 03/26/2002 3:04:59 AM PST by ninonitti
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To: patent
Thanks for the ping. Already sent it to my family.

EODGUY

24 posted on 03/26/2002 4:03:30 AM PST by EODGUY
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To: PadreL
Nice post...thanks.
25 posted on 03/26/2002 7:38:12 AM PST by pgkdan
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26 posted on 03/26/2002 9:31:08 AM PST by Steve1789
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27 posted on 03/26/2002 9:37:07 AM PST by Fiddlstix
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bump for personal reference.
28 posted on 03/27/2002 10:40:06 AM PST by AdA$tra
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To: PadreL
BTTT!
29 posted on 03/27/2002 1:37:04 PM PST by Salvation
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To: PadreL
Thank you for posting this. It is a positive piece.

....students and faculty members said they were grief-stricken over the Church's latest sexual abuse scandals, and also very angry. Not at the bishops who protected the abusers, but at the priests who, as one student put it,"have brought us all down."

How refreshing that the students and faculty have got it right. They lay the blame at the perpetrators feet where it most assuredly belongs. It is a liberal tendency to focus blame on anything and everything but the criminal. Thus, the cover-up angle that the media has been hyping. The bishops merely responded, however wrong and misguided in hindsight, with the forgiveness and compassion they have been conditioned, as Christians, to give. It is the homosexual predators that are responsible for this scandal. It is heartening to see that future priests are aware of the facts.

30 posted on 03/27/2002 7:22:30 PM PST by St.Chuck
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To: PadreL
BTTT!
31 posted on 03/27/2002 7:28:44 PM PST by Salvation
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To: patent
bttt
32 posted on 04/01/2002 9:36:40 PM PST by pax_et_bonum
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To: PadreL
Great post! I would have totally missed this if you hadn't posted it here. Many thanks!

BTTT

33 posted on 04/29/2002 3:45:00 PM PDT by history_matters
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Roger Cardinal Mahony has been hospitalized with a blood clot in his lung.

May God be merciful to Cardinal Mahony and bless him, give him the Light of God's face, and keep him in peace.

May St. Catherine of Siena intercede for him, and may the Lord Jesus Christ of his great and divine mercy visit Cardinal Mahony with His healing presence and the light of truth and peace.

Please join me in saying the Chaplet of Divine Mercy for Cardinal Mahony this evening at 8:00 PM Eastern (or at whatever time you can this evening).

34 posted on 04/29/2002 4:30:42 PM PDT by history_matters
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To: PadreL; ultima ratio
BTTT!
35 posted on 07/29/2002 6:58:04 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: PadreL
BTTT!
36 posted on 12/11/2002 9:54:08 PM PST by Salvation
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To: PadreL; Admin Moderator
BTTT again.

Admin Mod,
Could this be transferred to the Religion Forum?
37 posted on 05/12/2003 7:51:55 AM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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Pray for priests.
38 posted on 11/02/2003 8:15:29 PM PST by narses ("The do-it-yourself Mass is ended. Go in peace" Francis Cardinal Arinze of Nigeria)
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