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Ban Handguns Now (VPC launches new web site)
Violence Policy Center ^ | March 28th 2002 | VPC press release

Posted on 03/29/2002 9:06:25 PM PST by Drew68

VPC Launches New Web Site, www.banhandgunsnow.org, in Conjunction With Release of Paperback Edition of Latest Book, Every Handgun Is Aimed at You: The Case for Banning Handguns

WASHINGTON, DC—In conjunction with release of the paperback edition of its most recent book, Every Handgun is Aimed at You: The Case for Banning Handguns (The New Press, 2001), the Violence Policy Center (VPC) today launched a new citizen-action web site, www.banhandgunsnow.org. Each year handguns claim more than 20,000 American lives in suicides, homicides, and unintentional shootings. The unique qualities that make handguns ideally suited for violent death and injury—concealability coupled with lethality—are illustrated daily in American homes and as far away as the Paris suburbs, where yesterday eight were killed and 19 wounded by a French citizen wielding a legally possessed handgun.

Josh Sugarmann, VPC executive director and author of the book, states, "The single bloody thread that runs through our nation's gun death and injury crisis is the easy accessibility we allow our citizens to the most lethal categories of firearms, with handguns at the top of the list. After each horrific shooting a predictable pattern emerges, we quickly look for a loophole to be plugged, a limited law that could be better enforced, or other `common sense' solutions, while never stepping back to look at the big picture: the free flow of guns—and in particular handguns—in our nation. America's gun violence problem will not be solved by licensing and registration, trigger locks, or lamentations over the evil in men's hearts. Tragic shootings are America's future until we eliminate handguns, the tools that make such violence possible."

The new VPC web site—which contains studies, analyses, survey data, and useful links—will be updated continuously. Banhandgunsnow.org is launched with the recognition that more than 30 percent of the American public supports a ban on handguns, with this number rising to as high as 50 percent in the wake of horrific shootings like 1999's Columbine massacre. Adds Sugarmann, "Our goal is simple: to engage and activate dedicated gun control supporters. Banhandgunsnow.org will give voice to gun control advocates who have grown weary of limited half-measures that may offend few, but fail to accomplish much."

Every Handgun is Aimed at You: The Case For Banning Handguns covers a wide range of issues in 10 chapters, including: An Introduction to Handguns; The History of Handguns; Handguns and Suicide; Handguns and Self-Defense; Handguns and Crime; Handguns and Women; Handguns and Youth; Handguns and Minorities; Handguns in Public; and, The Case for Banning Handguns. The book is available at bookstores nationwide.


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KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; handguns; joshsugarmann; liberalidiots; sarahbrady; vpc
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I didn't think a "Barf Alert" was necessary since this is a VPC press release and the title pretty much gives away that it has a Barf Factor of 100%

I hope this hasn't been posted. I did a search on "handguns" and couldn't find this article.

Bon Apetite!

1 posted on 03/29/2002 9:06:25 PM PST by Drew68
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2 posted on 03/29/2002 9:07:27 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Kalashnikov_68
America's gun violence problem will not be solved by licensing and registration, trigger locks, or lamentations over the evil in men's hearts.

Well, we agree there. Bravo on the no licensing and registration! And the lamentations don't work, you gotta keep evil ones in jail, whether you lament evil or not.

3 posted on 03/29/2002 9:12:19 PM PST by coloradan
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To: Kalashnikov_68
Every Handgun Is Aimed at You

Not the ones I'm holding.

4 posted on 03/29/2002 9:13:17 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
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To: Kalashnikov_68
Each year handguns claim more than 20,000 American lives in suicides, homicides, and unintentional shootings.

Anybody know how many lives are SAVED by handguns each year?

5 posted on 03/29/2002 9:13:26 PM PST by copycat
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To: Kalashnikov_68
The gun banners have finally shed the pretense that all they seek is "reasonable" gun control. They want to ban private ownership of guns period as their book and new web site make clear.
6 posted on 03/29/2002 9:16:13 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: Kalashnikov_68; squantos
Handguns and Self-Defense;

I don't the VPC's book will have a very long chapter dedicated to that subject.

8 posted on 03/29/2002 9:18:06 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
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To: Kalashnikov_68
That a boy Sugarmann, you just keep talking.
9 posted on 03/29/2002 9:19:08 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: Kalashnikov_68
Sounds like the standard liberal swill to me. Nothing fancy, just the standard contiuous montone monologue. Hoping to catch somebody's ear when they are weakest, or misinformed.

When the guns are gone, will they put a hold on axes, knives, hammers, garrottes, etc. Maybe even a hold on terrorist flown airplanes, eh the constitution!? Get my drift?

Sword

10 posted on 03/29/2002 9:20:18 PM PST by Sword_Svalbardt
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To: Kalashnikov_68
Josh Sugarmann? I don't think so.
11 posted on 03/29/2002 9:20:36 PM PST by Mark Turbo
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To: Dan from Michigan
Molon labe, Josh baby, molon labe.
12 posted on 03/29/2002 9:21:08 PM PST by Noumenon
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My comment to Josh Sugarman: "Come on over and get them."
13 posted on 03/29/2002 9:22:51 PM PST by mvpel
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To: Kalashnikov_68
This has got to be a joke, or a hoax. Time and time again, I have heard the major gun control organizations tell me that they are NOT gun-grabbers intent on outlawing gun ownership. All they want is "common-sense" gun control.

I mean, come on, ol' Josh Sugarmann and Sarah Brady wouldn't lie, would they?

14 posted on 03/29/2002 9:24:20 PM PST by timm22
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To: goldstategop
The gun banners have finally shed the pretense that all they seek is "reasonable" gun control.

YEP!

That's why I posted this. Normally posting something from VPC is like posting something from Democratic Underground. I mean really, what's the point? We already know from the source that it's going to be 180 degrees from reality.

But when I saw this --especially the title of the web site, I thought, "Finally! These SOBs come clean and admit their true agenda." Of course, we knew all along that this was their goal, but many Americans were saying that nothing was wrong with automobile-like registration.

This is going to hurt the VPC bad! Their agenda is clearly laid out for all to see. The NRA couldn't have asked for a better Easter basket of goodies.

15 posted on 03/29/2002 9:25:26 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Kalashnikov_68
VPC has ALWAYS called for a total ban.
16 posted on 03/29/2002 9:30:33 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: timm22
This has got to be a joke, or a hoax.

Nope. But they're going to soon wish it was.

I'll wager six months from now, the VPC does a major backpedal on this. With funds all but depleted, they'll announce that "we didn't really mean ban all handguns. Really, we didn't! It was just a figure of speech. Please believe us and fill our coffers. Pleaseeee...

17 posted on 03/29/2002 9:31:10 PM PST by Drew68
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To: copycat
I'll bet that 20,000 deaths is fuzzy math anyhow.
18 posted on 03/29/2002 9:31:32 PM PST by baseballfanjm
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To: Kalashnikov_68
Each year handguns claim more than 20,000 American lives in suicides, homicides, and unintentional shootings

1) I'd like to see a source for that.

2) If I have a handgun and shoot someone in a clear case of self-defense, it is still a "homocide". It's a justifiable homocide and I likely won't face criminal charges over it, but it's still by definition a homocide. Of course most people equate homocide with criminal act, so a person with no intellectual honesty might present a number of "homocides" without regard to whether or not they were justifiable as "proof" that guns are responsible for some number of crimes.
19 posted on 03/29/2002 9:35:44 PM PST by Dimensio
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To: Dan from Michigan
VPC has ALWAYS called for a total ban.

Are you sure? I was under the impression that they had tempered their message to the "reasonable licensing and registration" song and dance.

Aren't they in cahoots with Brady now?

20 posted on 03/29/2002 9:38:31 PM PST by Drew68
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To: big ern
The book is available at bookstores nationwide........I'll have to do my best to muck up all things dewey on my local book stores shelves this weekend if I find such seditious socialist pornography..........just fighting terrorism in my own way when I find it !

BTW Who funds these SOB's ?

Stay safe !

21 posted on 03/29/2002 9:40:28 PM PST by Squantos
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To: baseballfanjm
Well, to start with banning handguns wouldn't stop any suicides...taking pills is just as easy. And I'm sure a lot of those deaths are gangland deaths, where they wouldn't obey the ban anyway.

Meanwhile EVERY life saved by a handgun is a legitimate stat, and from my reading, there's a LOT more than 20,000 a year.

BOTTOM LINE...Banning handguns would cause more deaths than it saved.

FReegards...

22 posted on 03/29/2002 9:41:13 PM PST by copycat
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To: Kalashnikov_68
VPC - Total Ban, always has been.
Coalition to Stop Gun Violence - ALSO a total ban. They changed their name from "National Coalition to Ban Handguns" but still wants a ban.
"CSGV supports a ban on the importation, manufacture, sale and transfer of handguns and assault weapons, with reasonable exceptions for police, military, security personnel, gun clubs, and antique and collectable firearms stored in inoperable condition. Hunting weapons, such as shotguns and rifles, would be unaffected by these bans."

Brady Campaign - Formerly HCI. Pete Shields called for a ban a long time ago. They currently deny publically that they want a total ban. They do want a ban on 'assault weapons', 'saturday night specials' and want att generals to have total control over them, and to sue the gun manufacturers.........everything but. They were NOT renamed from the coalition to ban handgunes. That is CSGV. That doesn't mean they don't want one though.....

23 posted on 03/29/2002 9:47:02 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: baseballfanjm
I'll bet that 20,000 deaths is fuzzy math anyhow.

Actually, I'll buy this figure. Of course, I'd say about 18,000 of these are gang-banging thugs shooting each other and gang-banging thugs getting shot by the police, thus not really causing me to lose sleep in anguish over the "gun-epidemic" in America.

24 posted on 03/29/2002 9:47:47 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Dan from Michigan
Thanks for the info. It's hard for me to keep track of all these cretins. It's easy for me to get one group mixed up with the other. And like you pointed out, I'm sure all these groups secretly wouldn't mind a total ban and confiscation of all guns, and are probably applauding VPC for being so forthright. I'm certain they are paying close attention to VPC's efforts as so to test the waters on how far they can go in public.
26 posted on 03/29/2002 9:54:38 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Kalashnikov_68
Rodney the Rapist says: "Yes, we should ban handguns! After all, they were banned in England. And as a result, my line of work has become far less dangerous."

VPC Launches New Web Site, www.bancarsnow.org, in Conjunction With Release of Paperback Edition of Latest Book, Every Car Is Aimed at You: The Case for Banning Cars

WASHINGTON, DC—In conjunction with release of the paperback edition of its most recent book, Every Car is Aimed at You: The Case for Banning Cars (The New Press, 2001), the Violence Policy Center (VPC) today launched a new citizen-action web site, www.bancarsnow.org. Each year cars claim more than 31,000 American lives in suicides, vehicular homicides, and unintentional wrecks. The unique qualities that make cars ideally suited for violent death and injury—speed coupled with following too close—are illustrated daily on American highways.

Josh Sugarmann, VPC executive director and author of the book, states, "The single bloody thread that runs through our nation's car death and injury crisis is the easy accessibility we allow our citizens to the most lethal categories of machinery, with automobieles at the top of the list. After each horrific wreck a predictable pattern emerges, we quickly look for a loophole to be plugged, a limited law that could be better enforced, or other `common sense' solutions, while never stepping back to look at the big picture: the free flow of motor vehicles—and in particular cars—in our nation. America's car violence problem will not be solved by licensing and registration, the Club, or lamentations over the evil of alcohol. Tragic wrecks are America's future until we eliminate cars, the tools that make such violence possible."

The new VPC web site—which contains studies, analyses, survey data, and useful links—will be updated continuously. Bancarsnow.org is launched with the recognition that more than 30 percent of the American public supports a ban on cars, with this number rising to as high as 50 percent in the wake of horrific wrecks. Adds Sugarmann, "Our goal is simple: to engage and activate dedicated vehicle control supporters. Bancarsnow.org will give voice to vehicle control advocates who have grown weary of limited half-measures that may offend few, but fail to accomplish much."

Every Car is Aimed at You: The Case For Banning Cars covers a wide range of issues in 10 chapters, including: An Introduction to Cars; The History of Cars; Cars and Suicide; Cars and Self-Defense; Cars and Crime; Cars and Women drivers; Cars and Youth; Cars and Minorities; Cars in Public; and, The Case for Banning Cars. The book is available at bookstores nationwide.

27 posted on 03/29/2002 9:58:36 PM PST by VRWC_Member428
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To: Squantos
I'll have to do my best to muck up all things dewey on my local book stores shelves this weekend if I find such seditious socialist pornography

LOL!

Actually a better remedy is to hide them. Grab one copy and stash it spine-out in the cooking section, another in the gardening section and so on. Then when someone comes in looking for it, the retailer will punch it up on his computer and see that he has 8 copies available but can't seem to find any of them. Thus the book doesn't get sold and it is unlikely he will order more copies. Do this in the library as well.

The liberals have been doing this to conservative titles forever --especially in college libraries. It is dirty but effective. We need to play just as dirty.

28 posted on 03/29/2002 10:05:36 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Kalashnikov_68
I was going to put em in the "gun" section........they'd never sell there :o)

Stay safe !

29 posted on 03/29/2002 10:19:06 PM PST by Squantos
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To: Kalashnikov_68
Guns serve the felons quite well. Why encourage everyone to have one???
30 posted on 03/29/2002 10:23:58 PM PST by Waco
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To: Kalashnikov_68
where yesterday eight were killed and 19 wounded by a French citizen wielding a legally possessed handgun

I don't know if they have a round limit over in France but I would assume this guy had to reload anywhere from 2 to 6 times for 27 shots (assuming 100% hit rate). Imagine if just one of those French victims had been armed.

31 posted on 03/29/2002 10:29:31 PM PST by hattend
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To: goldstategop
The gun banners have finally shed the pretense that all they seek is "reasonable" gun control.

Yep, pretty brazen and out in the open now. Time to start calling them liars every time they say it isn't about taking your guns...the proof is now in the open.

32 posted on 03/29/2002 10:31:26 PM PST by hattend
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To: timm22
I mean, come on, ol' Josh Sugarmann and Sarah Brady wouldn't lie, would they?

Sheesh. They wouldn't lie. They have just come to a new realization. They have grown. (Barfing)

33 posted on 03/29/2002 10:47:14 PM PST by Badray
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To: Waco
"Guns serve the felons quite well. Why encourage everyone to have one???"

Felons are not going to obey the law. They will be armed regardless of the law. That's what criminals do - they break the law, they commit crime. Gun control laws only serve to prevent the law abiding citizens the opportunity to defend themselves.

34 posted on 03/29/2002 10:53:37 PM PST by Badray
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To: Badray
Personally, I'm not too surprised. Liberals lied about their agenda in the past? Shocking. I wonder what brought about this little gem of honesty?Its also charming that they listed the "stormfront" website as a pro-gun special interest group. I wish these people would find something productive to do.
35 posted on 03/29/2002 11:27:51 PM PST by Threepwood
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To: Threepwood
Its also charming that they listed the "stormfront" website as a pro-gun special interest group.

I noticed that. They list it under "Pro-Gun Special Interests." Lovely. Then they list a bunch of physician groups under "Organizations Working to Reduce Firearms Violence."

Nice play on words.

Josh Sugarfag ("Man" doesn't belong in his name) is a punk.

36 posted on 03/30/2002 2:21:21 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Kalashnikov_68
Actually, I'll buy this figure. Of course, I'd say about 18,000 of these are gang-banging thugs shooting each other and gang-banging thugs getting shot by the police, thus not really causing me to lose sleep in anguish over the "gun-epidemic" in America.

IIRC, about half of the total is suicides. I don't have the source in front of me, I'll post it later if I get the chance.

37 posted on 03/30/2002 4:13:19 AM PST by TomB
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To: TomB
IIRC, about half of the total is suicides.

You could be right, but if we've got 10,000 people a year shooting themselves, then we've got a real problem on our hands and it ain't guns.

38 posted on 03/30/2002 4:25:47 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Kalashnikov_68
You could be right, but if we've got 10,000 people a year shooting themselves, then we've got a real problem on our hands and it ain't guns.

Once again the numbers escape me, but "gunless" societies such as Japan have much, much higher suicide rate than the US.

I guess if people want to off themselves, they'll find a way to do it.

39 posted on 03/30/2002 4:35:16 AM PST by TomB
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To: Kalashnikov_68
e-mail the VPC info@vpc.org
40 posted on 03/30/2002 5:04:27 AM PST by thepitts
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To: Kalashnikov_68
Japan has a higher suicide rate than the USA, and they achieve it without any guns. (So much for using Japan as an example of a gun-free society.)
41 posted on 03/30/2002 5:13:35 AM PST by ctdonath2
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To: ctdonath2
So much for using Japan as an example of a gun-free society.

Yep, but when did logic and facts ever mean anything to the "Ban Handguns Now" crowd?

42 posted on 03/30/2002 5:19:19 AM PST by Drew68
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To: copycat
Well, to start with banning handguns wouldn't stop any suicides...taking pills is just as easy.

They don't want to stop suicides, only gun suicides. You can tell that I'm correct because if they cared about nongun suicides, they would have cited the number. But they didn't.

And I'm sure a lot of those deaths are gangland deaths, where they wouldn't obey the ban anyway.

...Where there are already gun bans anyway, and even though many perpetrators are under 18 and therefore already are under a ban that is presently in effect.

Meanwhile EVERY life saved by a handgun is a legitimate stat, and from my reading, there's a LOT more than 20,000 a year. ... BOTTOM LINE...Banning handguns would cause more deaths than it saved.

Hey! What do you want from these people? They're the Violence Policy Center - do you actually think they seek nonviolence?

43 posted on 03/30/2002 5:43:45 AM PST by coloradan
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To: coloradan
Each year the government releases to parole hundreds of thousands of inmates. Guess what 62.5% go out and commit more crimes including homicides.

The 1991 Tennessee Recidivism Report studied nearly 4,000 early released felons who went out and committed 1,469 new crimes, including 22 homicides within two years. The State is just as responsible for those 22 people being murdered as are those early released felons who killed them.

A 1991 parole and probation report from the US Bureau of Justice Statistics found that 45% of State prisoners were persons who, at the time they committed their offense, were under conditional supervision in the community--either on probation or on parole. Probation and Parole Violators in State Prison, 1991: Survey of State Prison Inmates, 1991 Click Here

Based on the offense that brought them to prison, the 162,000 probation violators committed at least 6,400 murders, 7,400 rapes, 10,400 assaults, and 17,000 robberies while under supervision in the community an average of 17 months.

Based on the offense that brought parolees back to prison, these 156,000 offenders committed at least 6,800 murders, 5,500 rapes, 8,800 assaults, and 22,500 robberies while under supervision in the community an average of 13 months.

That’s 13,200 homicides, 12,900 rapes, 19,200 assaults, and 39,500 robberies for a total of 84,800 violent crimes that would NOT have been committed if these UNREGISTERED, UNLICENSED GOVERNMENT SUPERVISED felons had been in prison where they belonged.

44 posted on 03/30/2002 5:45:57 AM PST by GailA
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To: Kalashnikov_68
"After each horrific shooting a predictable pattern emerges" Yes, civil liberties decline and criminals are empowered. The pattern is abundantly clear in UK, Cananda, Australia and New Zealand. "while never stepping back to look at the big picture" Duh!
45 posted on 03/30/2002 5:50:24 AM PST by School of Rational Thought
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To: big ern
I'm sorry, ern, but I'm with the Violence Policy Center on this. After all violence against intruders has always pretty much been my policy, too.

They're not???

Never mind.

46 posted on 03/30/2002 5:57:58 AM PST by metesky
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To: Kalashnikov_68
10,000 people a year voluntarily taking themselves out of the gene pool is a very small number in a population of 280 million. It's just not statistically significant
47 posted on 03/30/2002 6:04:28 AM PST by metesky
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To: GailA
Using your numbers, that's 36 murders a day and 232 violent crimes a day.

Kind of dwarfs the 10 "kids" a day stat they like to throw around, especially when you figure out who most of the kids really are.

48 posted on 03/30/2002 6:04:58 AM PST by coloradan
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To: VRWC_Member428
LMAO to #27. Beautiful !
There has to be more deaths each year due to the automobile than guns. Alos, my handgun isn't pointed at anyone unless of course they happen to be coming thru my backdoor at 0300.
49 posted on 03/30/2002 6:41:13 AM PST by Mopp4
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To: Pissed Off Janitor
It doesn't matter whether or not this book or any other anti-freedom book has been debunked. Reporters for the media will treat it like gospel and quote from it whenever they do an article that is even remotely connected with guns.
50 posted on 03/30/2002 6:47:43 AM PST by TopDog2
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