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Al Qaida codes discovered
The Washington Times ^ | April 5, 2002 | UPI Wire

Posted on 04/05/2002 3:33:07 AM PST by buzzyboop

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:52:23 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan, April 5 (UPI) -- Investigators said Friday they have found some code words in an al Qaida hideout that could tell them more about terror suspect Osama bin Laden's whereabouts.

Senior Pakistani security officials told United Press International the codes were found in a building in Faisalabad. Last week, a joint FBI and local police team arrested one of bin Laden's key aides, Abu Zubaydah, and 18 other al Qaida suspects from the same building.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: codes; southasialist; terrorwar; ubl; whereaboutw

1 posted on 04/05/2002 3:33:07 AM PST by buzzyboop
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To: buzzyboop
Friday: Dawood and Abu Kamel

Well, I’m no cryptographer, but this appears to be some sort of menu. Perhaps who was assigned cooking duties that day too?

Owl _ Eagle
“Guns before butter.”

2 posted on 04/05/2002 3:40:36 AM PST by South Hawthorne
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To: buzzyboop
"We found apparently incoherent sentences like, Friday: Dawood and Abu Kamel; Saturday: Osama and Anees, written on a wall inside a building in Faisalabad's Faisal Town area,"

Lets guess....Days for changing their underware? Who washes who's back? Who does the dishes and shopping?

3 posted on 04/05/2002 3:42:40 AM PST by SolitaryMan
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To: Owl_Eagle
Investigators said Friday they have found some code words in an al Qaida hideout that could tell them more about terror suspect Osama bin Laden's whereabouts.

Wonderful.... announce to the world (including Al-Qaeda) that you've gotten some of their code words (and list them) so they can change them. Stupid.

4 posted on 04/05/2002 3:43:22 AM PST by zandtar
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To: zandtar
Wonderful.... announce to the world (including Al-Qaeda) that you've gotten some of their code words (and list them) so they can change them. Stupid.

Beat me to it. Unless this is disinformation, this really should not be reported.

5 posted on 04/05/2002 3:47:16 AM PST by Praetorian
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To: Owl_Eagle
Relax.....This is disinformation..
6 posted on 04/05/2002 3:48:47 AM PST by bra
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To: Owl_Eagle
Why write it down?

Just tell Abu to get his butt over to the Kitchen.

7 posted on 04/05/2002 3:52:55 AM PST by Bogie
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To: buzzyboop
Friday: Dawood and Abu Kamel; Saturday: Osama and Anees

The two key words are "kamel" and "anees" and the rotation for who gets the daily treat.

8 posted on 04/05/2002 3:53:35 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The two key words are "kamel" and "anees" and the rotation for who gets the daily treat.

LOL

9 posted on 04/05/2002 4:29:22 AM PST by pt17
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To: buzzyboop
Don't worry. This is simply a queue for the sheep until they each get their own virgins.

"Hurry up boys, I'm wa-aiting! TEEHEE!"

10 posted on 04/05/2002 4:34:12 AM PST by Caipirabob
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Hysterical!
12 posted on 04/05/2002 4:38:45 AM PST by Quilla
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To: Yakboy
It could indicate death notices. Bin Ladin, who was rarely quiet a day after leaving Sudan in May 1996 (he was constantly on the phone, used faxes, and sent out broadsides attacking the US and Saudi Arabia) has not been heard from in more than four months. He is, most intelligence analysts assume, a greasespot in some cave somewhere in Afghanistan.
13 posted on 04/05/2002 4:39:10 AM PST by gaspar
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To: bra
Relax.....This is disinformation..

I don't know. The same elite media who has had members (in interviews) question if they'd alert US soldiers heading into an ambush in order to 'cover the story'. If they'd even consider watching US soldiers get killed so they could 'boost ratings' for their own career resume, why wouldn't they do this sort of thing?

Oh, and we're supposed to feel sorry for them if they get shot in a war zone.

14 posted on 04/05/2002 4:50:28 AM PST by zandtar
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To: zandtar
Wonderful.... announce to the world (including Al-Qaeda) that you've gotten some of their code words (and list them) so they can change them. Stupid.

But it could disrupt their ability to communicate for a critical period of time. They have their people scattered all over, most of them not very bright bulbs to begin with, afraid that their messages will be easily translated. That might even be better than having the codes and not letting them know about it.

15 posted on 04/05/2002 5:05:06 AM PST by powderhorn
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To: gaspar
He is, most intelligence analysts assume, a greasespot in some cave somewhere in Afghanistan

Yep, since before Dec 13th.

16 posted on 04/05/2002 5:12:41 AM PST by ASA Vet
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To: bra
Relax.....This is disinformation..

I realize this was probably meant for zandtar and Praetorian, but I was mulling over the likelihood of there even being the word “Dagwood” in Pashtun. I can’t imagine that they’re chuckling over the latest hijinks of Blondie or Mr. Dithers, or making gigantic sandwiches. So, I think these are just some random words to illustrate the complexity of what they’ve found.

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

17 posted on 04/05/2002 5:18:07 AM PST by South Hawthorne
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To: buzzyboop
"We found apparently incoherent sentences like, Friday: Dawood and Abu Kamel; Saturday: Osama and Anees, written on a wall inside a building in Faisalabad's Faisal Town area," one Pakistani security official told UPI."

"My uncle took the message and he wrote it on the Wall."....Johnny Rivers.

18 posted on 04/05/2002 5:30:00 AM PST by blam
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To: buzzyboop
That's nice. Now Al Qaida will simply start using a new code and any intelligence value from the one found will be lost ...
19 posted on 04/05/2002 5:36:36 AM PST by Junior
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To: SolitaryMan
Days for changing their underware?

That is "Days for Swapping their underwear...

21 posted on 04/05/2002 6:15:32 AM PST by Don Corleone
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To: buzzyboop
Investigators said Friday they have found

Why?

22 posted on 04/05/2002 6:45:46 AM PST by lepton
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To: powderhorn
But it could disrupt their ability to communicate for a critical period of time.

Short term. But long term, you sit on it and don't announce it to the world. You use those code words to break other code words, and harvest the information to the point you're translating their messages. That would outweigh any "possible" disruption of communications.

23 posted on 04/05/2002 6:48:06 AM PST by zandtar
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To: zandtar
Announce to the world that you have the codes? Exactly, stupid isn't it?
24 posted on 04/05/2002 6:54:01 AM PST by CPT Clay
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To: blam
Ahem...in the interests of accuracy, that's Chuck Berry, not Johnny Rivers. Johnny's cover of Memphis is one of the first songs I loved.
25 posted on 04/05/2002 6:57:44 AM PST by jwfiv
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To: SolitaryMan
Who washes who's back?

Hop in any big city cab and you'll know this isn't so. These animals don't bathe.

26 posted on 04/05/2002 7:04:05 AM PST by Musket
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To: Don Corleone
....ohhhh geeeezzzzee, trying to get that picture out of my mind!!!!!
27 posted on 04/05/2002 8:18:18 AM PST by GrandMoM
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28 posted on 04/05/2002 9:01:48 AM PST by Free the USA
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To: buzzyboop
This is funny. So Alqaida now is a degenerate alchemist sect. The FBI will have to be trained in transmutation. Hope they find the gold.
29 posted on 04/05/2002 9:08:16 AM PST by RightWhale
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To: buzzyboop
Kilroy was here.
30 posted on 04/05/2002 9:53:23 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: buzzyboop
Investigators said Friday they have found some code words in an al Qaida hideout that could tell them more about terror suspect Osama bin Laden's whereabouts.

Other code words found.

Sleeps with the fishes.
Dirt Nap.
Room Temperature.
Frolics with Virgins.
Pushing up Poppies.

You get the idea.

31 posted on 04/05/2002 10:09:12 AM PST by Mike Darancette
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To: zandtar
Bingo! Imagine in WW2 if the Brits announced when they had captured an Enigma machine or we announced when we broke the Japenese diplomatic or naval codes.

The presstitutes are morons.

32 posted on 04/05/2002 10:47:05 AM PST by Leto
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To: zandtar
Short term. But long term, you sit on it and don't announce it to the world.

I tend to agree with this assessment. There would be a very limited number of reasons for announcing to the enemy that their code had been broken.

1.)If a temporary destabilization could produce a decisive victory in the short run (unlikely).

2.)The codes were really not that valuable in the first place. Announcing that (useless)enemy codes have been broken might lower the moral of the enemy (a little more likely).

3.)The enemy already knows that their codes have been compromised...what the heck, might as well get something out of it, even if it's just a PR boost.(very likely).

4.)We have some really, really, really stupid people in control of the war effort (maybe).

33 posted on 04/06/2002 8:25:33 AM PST by powderhorn
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