What is Creationism?

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[Youngblood]

Was he an "outie" or an "innie"?

[la$tminutepardon]

The game's afoot.... ... release the dogs.

[Hajman]

Who's Barry Manilow? ;)

-The Hajman-

[Poohbah]

Admit your heresy! You know the words to ALL of his songs! CONFESS!

[PatrickHenry]

Was he [Adam] an "outie" or an "innie"?

That's one of the enduring mysteries, along with the burning issue of whether he was circumcised. These are questions I leave to the celebate clergy, who are able to approach such matters in the proper state of mind.

[Hajman]

Admit your heresy! You know the words to ALL of his songs! CONFESS!

I confess! I confess! Now, who is he?

-The Hajman-

[longshadow]

I think it's related to the question of whether Adam was created with a belly-button. It is said (by those who deal in such issues) that he had one, because that's what a man looks like.

.....

The old Sourdough went down the row of grey-berds ruminatin'

With optics dim they peered at him, and pressed agin the gratin'.

In every face he sought some trace of our ancestral father;

But though he stared, he soon dispaired the faintest clue to gather.

Then suddenly he whooped with glee: "Ha-ha! an inspiration!"

And to and fro along the row, he ran with animation.

To Peter, bold he cried: "Behold, all told there are eleven.

Suppose I fix on number Six - say Boy! How's that for Heaven?"

"By gosh, you win," said Pete. "Step in. But tell me how you chose him.

They're like as pins; all might be twins. There's nothing to disclose him."

The Sourdough said: "'Twas hard; my head was seething with commotion.

I felt a dunce, then all at once, I had a gorgeous notion.

I stooped and peered beneath each beard that drooped like fleece of mutton.

My search was crowned..... that bird I found — ain't got no belly-button."

excerpted from "A Sourdough Story" -Robert Service

[longshadow]

on grounds of heresy regarding the origins of the Universe and for being a Barry Manilow fan.

Man, you really know how to hurt a guy.

[VadeRetro]

Hello? Mandy? Where are you? The Copa Cabana?
Listen, I know I don't write the songs
That make the whole world sing
But I do know one thing, Mandy
I just can't smile without you.
Forget about Lola.

Oh, wait a minute! That's Ray Stevens!

But I do sometimes find myself singing, "Somewhere in the Night."

[longshadow]

I love the smell of internecine theological squabbling in the afternoon...

Major Kilgore, is that you?

[BMCDA]

No problem. I hold them all simultaneously, as equals. Thus none is held to be superior to any others. I'm not taking any chances.

Hmm, that may work but this approach is nothing for me since I was born a Last Thursdayist and I will certainly die as a Last Thursdayist. (Actually I wasn't born since the world didn't exist before last Thursday. I was only created with the memory of being born)

So do you.

Thank you very much. Now I have to test it somewhere ;-)

[BMCDA]

Splinter cults are forever cropping up, based on alternate interpretations of the Cargo Myth, and a battle ensues for control. Many times, the splinter group goes off and starts their own village, worshiping in accordance with their interpretation of the myth.

LOL... and I just read a post on how religions evolve.

[Nebullis]

You do find the material for long-running threads!

[AndrewC]

I took you from the ends of the earth, from its farthest corners I called you. I said, 'You are my servant'; I have chosen you and have not rejected you.

I take it you also believe the Bible states that you can be at different places at the same time. the Revelation of St. John the Divine is one of the most allegorical books in the Bible.

And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 1:13And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. 1:14His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 1:15And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. 1:16And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

You spent some time in school and can't recognize figurative. I recommend you study some more.

[Physicist]

Who's Barry Manilow?

He's the creator!

Thus spake the Manilow:

"I've been alive forever,
I wrote the very first song..."

[Semper]

IF there is an infinite Source (God) from which comes our existence (in its likeness), how can there be a "creation" or start point? Infinite means without limit - no beginning and no ending, forever. We must have always existed and always will exist just progressing through different environments and experiences as we change or "evolve". How that process occurs would be based upon the timeless laws of a Principle which humans perceive as "God". What do you think?

Granted, it IS easier to contemplate Adams's belly button - or lack thereof.

[Semper]

Requesting a comment on post #56.

[Hajman]

IF there is an infinite Source (God) from which comes our existence (in its likeness), how can there be a "creation" or start point? Infinite means without limit - no beginning and no ending, forever. We must have always existed and always will exist just progressing through different environments and experiences as we change or "evolve". How that process occurs would be based upon the timeless laws of a Principle which humans perceive as "God". What do you think?

It's actually fairly easily resovable if you recognize the differences between independence on space/time (God), and dependence upon space/time (us). We would have a bit different (limited) perspective of things. God can exist in the infinite while we exist in the finite. And those two events can co-exist just fine. The infinite and finite arn't necessarily exclusive. Take fractals for example. Infinite length or surface area (3 dimensional fractals) in a finite space. You can also place an infinite 3 dimensional space in a finite 4 dimensional space. The problem is interesting, but certainally far from unresolvable.

-The Hajman-

[Nebullis]

It's actually fairly easily resovable if you recognize the differences between independence on space/time (God), and dependence upon space/time (us).

That's the argument used for creation. There's still a bit of a problem for the Christ figure, however. But I'm not a physicist.

[Hajman]

That's the argument used for creation. There's still a bit of a problem for the Christ figure, however. But I'm not a physicist.

However, it's the same style of argument used for other infinite/finite problems in math and multi-dimensional physics as well. So it's not limited to theologies.

I'm curious what you think the problem for Christ would be though. Personally, I'm not sure where the problem would lie.

-The Hajman-