Posted on 04/09/2002 11:31:41 AM PDT by JediGirl
When a child is born it is a miracle. In my view it doesnt make it any less a miracle because we know something about the mechanics that allowed the child to be born. Is God eliminated because we know about DNA?
Is God less of a God because He used a gradual process of evolution rather than waving a magic wand and suddenly bringing man from nothingness?
Love your SN too.
You are right in so many ways. What kills me is the creationists who refuse to allow for God to use whatever means possible to get to the point we are at today. They say evolution is blasphemy, when I say it is very arrogant to suppose how God works. Tell me, where did Cain's wife come from? He was expelled for killing his brother in one verse then the very next he has a wife. Where did she come from? Tell me of her people.
The people I don;t understand are the old earth creationists. They don't believe in the evolution of man, but do they believe in the evolution of other animals? I don;t think so. This point of view is the most disturbing. Do they think God just floats around with a wrist watch on and says, "OK T-Rex, it's your time to go" and then waves his magic wand and they all drop dead? Now it's time for the giant sloth to come into existence, waving the wand again. Poof, there are thousands of sloths spread out across an area.
I say that God can use any means possible, and it is pure arrogance to assume exactly what God is thinking.
P.S. If you are a Craetionist, I will not read your answer until you tell me where Cain's wife and her people come from.
Jer 2:27 Saying to a stock, Thou art my father; and to a stone, Thou hast brought me forth:
Evolution summed up in 2 little verses.
You cannot scientifically explain a created object. You can, however, disprove much of the darwin theory. Science looks only for one type of answer. If the Bible is right and God created Adam, how old was Adam when God created him? Was he a grown man or an infant? It's the old "Which came first the chicken or the egg" argument. If you only allow for the possibility that it was the egg then you might as well not ask the question "Where and how did life begin." It is a false theory based on scientists own standards. You cannot eliminate possibilities before you even explore the question unless you are motivated by something other than finding the truth. Science will not even consider that the first man was created with "age", no matter how many of their aging theories fail. It really is a matter of faith either way you look at it.
Personally, I don't care what you believe. I am offended that darwinists are so religious in their beliefs that they won't even allow a debate. One side will debate, one side won't. Hmmm.
I'm afraid I can't give you exact details, as it's been years since I read it, and my dog literally ate the book. (That was the same week he also ate the covers off one of my statistics books. It's quite something to discover a gold-lettered pile in your yard....)
However, I do remember my basic objections to the book. His analysis pushed very hard the idea that there is no racial component to intelligence. Unfortunately, Gould did not address the idea that the same evolutionary factors that drive physical racial differences, might also affect intelligence (which under evolutionary theory is an evolved physical trait).
Rather, he "proved" his point by pointing out the flawed testing methodology of those who claimed that there are racial differences in intelligence.
While that is a valuable service, it does not answer the mail on the underlying evolutionary question of racial differences in intelligence.
Again, I'm sorry I can't discuss specifics.
Creationists don't scoff at geology. Creationists scoff at the geologic column which is not a scientific contrivance since it ASSUMES evolutionary progression in its construction.
Evolutionists point to the geologic column as "proof" that macro evolution occurred, but the chart itself presupposes that macro evolution occurred in determining which layers belong on the bottom of the chart and which belong on the top. This is not scientific. Rather it is what happens when one discipline relies on another for support.
It is kind of like in the cartoons when Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd climb on top of each other until they are 30 feet in the air and realize they have no support, and then fall back down to the earth.
Why doesn't science use its analytical models, its computer simulations to take evolution to its logical next step and try to foretell what heaven is like. Or don't they believe in a kind of spiritual evolution? Perhaps they would be confronted with the questions they cannot answer: Why?
Sounds to me like we approach this from precisely the same viewpoint.
I, not being an Infinite Being, cannot presume to know through what means the Creator brought the universe to being.
steven jay gould, presuming vaingloriously to be a Being of Infinite Vision, however, is quite certain in the nonexistence of God and holds forth with The Greatest Certitude that evidence of evolution is proof that faith in God is folly.
I've read some of his work, I find his intellectual vision mypoic in the extreme, but what carries his work to marketability is an overweening pridefulness which evokes mental images of fleets of dirigibles supporting a vast fat head.
No, I dont KNOW how God made me and you, it is an act of faith that I believe. Just as gould beleives in the nonexistence of God through an identical leap of faith.
It is just amusing that he is too ignorant to recognize his religion as such.
This is a way of saying us normal folks can't possibly fathom what they're saying and how much smarter they are than us.
Sounded to me like Gould was saying it happened fast instead of slow. Does that pretty well sum it up?
Soon the NetGrammarPolitzei (NGRAMPO) will be allowed to view all facial recognization tapes and rule on correctness of grammar. (In all languages, including Spanish, Arabic, Chukchi, Roshani, and NaDene.)
Why?
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