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Pat Buchanan Predicts the Death of "Gringos"
La Voz de Aztlan ^ | 12/2/2002 | Ernesto Cienfuegos

Posted on 04/15/2002 10:36:02 AM PDT by A. Pole

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To: banjo joe
Dr. Yeagley will confirm what you just posted.
61 posted on 04/15/2002 6:40:26 PM PDT by junta
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To: Phillip Augustus
Hector doesn't even know the history he professes to know. San Francisco was named by an American. Under the Spaniards - and for 25 years, the Mexicans - it was Yerba Buena.

Like you said, he's - horrors! - more American then he thinks.

It's a Pocho/Mojado thing. HeHe. Poor Hector.

62 posted on 04/15/2002 6:40:31 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Junior
To his mind (and the minds of many on these threads) those ideals belong only to white folks and the rest of the world is comprised of grasping dirty little brown people whose very existence taints the ideals whites hold sacred. So which country, comprised of those "grasping dirty little brown people," espouses ideals that you think would be a good fit for America? Mexico? Venezuela? Maybe Argentina? Can you show for me a shining example of a fantastic non-white society that is thriving and owes its robustness to its own people?

Is there a non-white society whose masses are not desiring to relocate to America? If they were accomodated -- say we let every single one of them come over here immediately, starting tomorrow -- do you think there might be a danger of our country being swayed to the types of society from which they came? In other words, would Chavez as our communist leader work wonders in the U.S.?

And, just food for thought, what do you think of the idea of a more limited form of immigration policy, whereby we control the influx of immigrants, giving them time to assimilate into our culture, rather than throwing open the floodgates and just letting whomever decides to live here move here?

63 posted on 04/15/2002 6:47:23 PM PDT by Proud2BAmerican
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To: Arleigh
A people's genes influence their philosophies and ideals. There are recognizable differences in intelligence, temperament, sexual behavior and rates of maturation and fertility among the 3 major racial groups.

Sounds interesting. - Could you outline these differences?

64 posted on 04/15/2002 6:51:52 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: Proud2BAmerican
Argentina is actually about 90% white (non-mestizo).
65 posted on 04/15/2002 6:54:31 PM PDT by Phillip Augustus
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To: Torie
The article was designed as a polemic to annoy you. It clearly succeeded.

I looked at the dead's home page and dead's photo suggest that he is related to those Aztlan people. Have a look.

66 posted on 04/15/2002 6:59:05 PM PDT by A. Pole
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To: A. Pole
"Whereas people of color commit economic crimes for survival, white people are committing "spiritual" crimes because of depravity, decadence and other similar factors. Most serial murderers throughout history, including Jack the Ripper have been white"

??So YOU know who Jack the Ripper was???? Your quoted sentence above personifies your bigoted stupidity. (Look up the words you don't understand here.)

67 posted on 04/15/2002 7:14:30 PM PDT by ZDaphne
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To: A. Pole
Tell Pat He is wrong long live the gringo's not so long age i could not say gringo now i are one
68 posted on 04/15/2002 7:57:54 PM PDT by solo gringo
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To: Dutchy;all
thanks for the ping. Hope everybody has called or faxed their Senators and pinged them over the head on 245(i)(Amnesty) that they want to ram down our throats for slave labor and illegal votes.
69 posted on 04/15/2002 8:07:12 PM PDT by healey22
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To: Proud2BAmerican
Whenever these questions come up, I think about the fact that whites account for roughly a 10% minority of the world population and shrinking. And maybe I am aggrandizing things somewhat, but those white cultures are largely responsible for most of the things that make the modern world shine as a beacon to the rest of the world, else the world wouldn't want to come here, or be so influenced by what is here. Heathcare, education, agriculture, communications, technology, a culture of hard work and acheivement, have found new levels in this culture.

We are all only human, and regardless of our skin color, we can all look around this world and easily see profound trouble just about everywhere, in every race, color, and religion. Still when whites are gone, or pushed into the minority in every country, will the world really be better? Of course, I have the perspective of a white guy, so I just can't believe that it will be.

70 posted on 04/15/2002 8:45:25 PM PDT by spodefly
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To: delphine
What you mentioned are by products of the West. Even in the depths of despotism the countries of Europe were the West and countries not populated by westerners were not and now only bear a superficial resemblance to the West. Ask them yourself and see if these countries and their people think of themselves as "Western" beyond a few exportable consumer fads or political fads. Hell we probably are not the West anymore as well since we know spend are time spouting about multi-culturalism and all its hokum. As far as Mexico for the most part it helps refute your first part of your argument, and as for the second part they for the most part are superstitious primitives perhaps better suited to life centuries ago when monsters ruled the land.
71 posted on 04/16/2002 6:20:17 AM PDT by junta
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To: junta
Oh, my mistake, I thought we were talking about the unique facets of Western culture that are worth saving. If the free market, individual freedoms, the scientific method, and democratic rule are excluded, I see no way in which Western culture is superior to any other. The Greek traditions and Christianity are superior as a social context exactly because they allowed such progress.

Mexico, and the rest of Latin America, is overwhlemingly Catholic, not animist.

72 posted on 04/16/2002 8:27:22 AM PDT by delphine
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To: delphine
the free market, individual freedoms, the scientific method, and democratic rule

Other than Chile, where in Latin America do you find anything like these institutions?

And if they are so prevalent, why is 1/5 of the "western" country next door pounding in here any way they can?

73 posted on 04/16/2002 9:57:41 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: healey22
What amnesty?
Get off that tired horse. Talk about ridden hard and brought back wet!
74 posted on 04/16/2002 10:05:57 PM PDT by PRND21
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