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"Well-behaved women..." Opinions wanted.
iPlayOutside.com ^ | 4/16/02 | D Parks

Posted on 04/16/2002 11:06:41 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666

On a recent visit to my brother's house in Charlotte, NC, I saw the following on my sister-in-law's car:

My question is exactly what does the "Well-behaved women rarely make history" statement suppose to mean? Any opinions on this out there?


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KEYWORDS: bumpersticker; history; liberal; women
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In case you had not guessed, my sister-in-law is a little on the liberal side...
1 posted on 04/16/2002 11:06:41 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
She's jealous of Monica.
2 posted on 04/16/2002 11:09:04 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
BTW, does she always park here mini-van on such a steep grade?
3 posted on 04/16/2002 11:09:49 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
It means: "I can behave as poorly as I want and when someone calls me on it, I shall say it is my political statement."
4 posted on 04/16/2002 11:10:12 AM PDT by Under the Radar
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To: the_devils_advocate_666; texaggie79; dead
It means that women that are not well-behaved make history more frequently.
5 posted on 04/16/2002 11:10:42 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Sir Gawain
See my #2.
6 posted on 04/16/2002 11:11:15 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
I think she means for women to get ahead, make waves. Being a conformist doesn't get you anywhere or remebered. I guess she means be a Hillary.
7 posted on 04/16/2002 11:14:08 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
Man, where is the "Love Your Mother" bumper sticker with the picture of the Earth?
8 posted on 04/16/2002 11:14:25 AM PDT by FreeTally
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
I tend to agree with this. It is also true of men, by the way. History is made by those who aren't afraid to make waves. Women are singled out here because they are traditionally have been more encouraged to be "well-behaved" than men have.
9 posted on 04/16/2002 11:14:28 AM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: johniegrad
BTW, does she always park here mini-van on such a steep grade?

All misbehavin' women do.

10 posted on 04/16/2002 11:16:40 AM PDT by Cian
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
Lady Thatcher was very well behaved.
11 posted on 04/16/2002 11:16:53 AM PDT by otterpond
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
There is no way this is a womans vehicle...the bumpers aren't all smashed in.
12 posted on 04/16/2002 11:17:55 AM PDT by DancesWithTrout
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
"Well-behaved women rarely make-up history."

I think she is defending the honor of Doris Goodwin....

13 posted on 04/16/2002 11:19:30 AM PDT by JohnGalt
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
I hope she's a nice wife to your brother!!!

When I see bumper stickers like that, I imagine the woman behind them probably orders her husband around like a servant.

14 posted on 04/16/2002 11:19:47 AM PDT by RooRoobird14
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To: FreeTally
She's also missing "HATE IS NOT A FAMILY VALUE".
15 posted on 04/16/2002 11:20:24 AM PDT by StockAyatollah
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To: otterpond
And Mother Teresa. Very well behaved, very loved, and she really made a difference.
16 posted on 04/16/2002 11:21:15 AM PDT by NEWwoman
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
The first example that comes to my mind is Jean d'Arc. Or the english version: Joan of Arc. She made history in a big way by misbehaving(as they saw it at the time) so badly, that they burned her alive to make an example.

But in this case, I think this bumper sticker is meant as a mean spirited criticism of the 1950's american style housewife steriotype. I don't care for the bumper sticker at all.
17 posted on 04/16/2002 11:21:25 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: StockAyatollah
She's also missing "HATE IS NOT A FAMILY VALUE".

LOL!!! Forgot that one.

And "PRACTICE RANDOM ACTS OF KINDNESS AND SENSELESS BEAUTY"

18 posted on 04/16/2002 11:21:37 AM PDT by FreeTally
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
Bumper Sticker seen in Topeka:

"My wife says I never listen to her....or something like that."
19 posted on 04/16/2002 11:21:56 AM PDT by AdA$tra
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To: FreeTally
And the one that says "Visualize world peace."
20 posted on 04/16/2002 11:22:31 AM PDT by Xenalyte
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
it means "whores" get noticed more...................hehehe
21 posted on 04/16/2002 11:23:12 AM PDT by angcat
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
She's saying that bitches and witches are people she prefers to study and idolize.
22 posted on 04/16/2002 11:24:38 AM PDT by Tralfaze McWatt
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To: otterpond
and brilliant, in many ways her economic policy predated RR
23 posted on 04/16/2002 11:25:41 AM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: johniegrad
No, the picture was just taken at a 45-degree angle... that would be 45 degrees to the left.
24 posted on 04/16/2002 11:25:41 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
Yeah, well, my guess is Womyn who drive maroon FORD WINDSTAR's don't make much history either.

My favorite bumper sticker?

EARTH FIRST. We'll strip mine the other planets later.

25 posted on 04/16/2002 11:26:07 AM PDT by xsrdx
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
Women who follow the traditional roles of wife and mother (well-behaved) rarely are famous/found in the history books. Conversely, women who are in the history books rarely were happy in traditional roles of wife and mother only. They could be considered mis-behaved, since at the time, a wife's place was at home with her children, not in a political position or researching science or math, or writing professionally, or any other "manly" pursuit.
26 posted on 04/16/2002 11:26:13 AM PDT by dagny taggert
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
Well-behaved or not, never ever put a woman in position of authority.
27 posted on 04/16/2002 11:26:59 AM PDT by gunshy
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To: Xenalyte
and the one that says "Visualize whirled peas."
28 posted on 04/16/2002 11:32:18 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan
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To: otterpond
Lady Thatcher is a well-behaved women who made one hell of a lot of history.
29 posted on 04/16/2002 11:32:27 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: FreeTally
No wackoe lefist woman's bumper is complete without THE original womyn sticker (BARF):

"A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle."

30 posted on 04/16/2002 11:32:49 AM PDT by RooRoobird14
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
Missing:
"I Believe Anita"
"You can't hug your kids with Nuclear Arms"

which reminds me... if women ran the military, would missiles be shaped differently?

31 posted on 04/16/2002 11:32:56 AM PDT by MrB
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To: Xenalyte
And the one that says "Visualize world peace."

Or it's sarcastic brother:

Visualize Whirled Peas

32 posted on 04/16/2002 11:33:31 AM PDT by Johnny Gage
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
How about "rude self-centered bitches die lonely".
33 posted on 04/16/2002 11:33:35 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: ElkGroveDan
ack.. you beat me to the "punchline"

Rock on...

34 posted on 04/16/2002 11:34:20 AM PDT by Johnny Gage
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To: KSCITYBOY
Apparently, you male oppressor you, you haven't seen the sticker that says BITCH - Babe In Total Control of Herself. (I don't have the heart to point out the inconsistency of capitalizing "in" but not "of.")
35 posted on 04/16/2002 11:34:47 AM PDT by Xenalyte
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
Here ya go: Women who put stupid bumper stickers on their cars never make history.
36 posted on 04/16/2002 11:35:09 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: angcat
it means "whores" get noticed ..hehehe

Monica, Hitlary, Donna Rice and numerous other bimbos whose name I have fortunately forgotten. The average wife, mother and homemaker is not likely to get even 15 minutes of fame or infamy, whichever.

37 posted on 04/16/2002 11:35:13 AM PDT by scholar
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
I've observed that the majority of great people in history are not "well behaved", usually neglecting their own families in favor of their focus, and/or are addicts, abusive, lawbreakers, philanderers, or have some other seriously objectionable attribute.

Unfortunately, the bumper sticker in question encourages such atrocious behavior - without noting that only a minute fraction of such amoral people do in fact make history (and many of those the wrong kind). Ask the car's owner if she wants her daughter to take that advice to heart and become a drug-addled 'ho.

38 posted on 04/16/2002 11:35:19 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
I live in Charlotte - and also have a sister (in Reston, VA though) who may subscribe to the same theory. I saw her reading a popular book called "Bitch: In praise of the difficult Woman" - or something to that effect. The theory is, nice women get walked on - and bitches get what they want.

It may often be true - but what they fail to consider - is WHO they may be getting whatever from. Most self-respecting REAL men have had it with bitches - especially the new breed, leaving only wimps to service them.

39 posted on 04/16/2002 11:35:57 AM PDT by guitfiddlist
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To: FreeTally
Or my favorite "PRACTICE RANDOM ACTS OF VIOLENCE AND WANTON DESTRUCTION"
40 posted on 04/16/2002 11:37:00 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: StockAyatollah
One that I don't think we'll ever be seeing on her vehicle is "Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my gun".
41 posted on 04/16/2002 11:38:00 AM PDT by jpl
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To: Sir Gawain
A MAN NEEDS TO FISH LIKE A WOMAN NEEDS A BICYCLE

or

PRACTICE BRAINLESS ACTS OF RANDOM STUPIDITY

42 posted on 04/16/2002 11:38:24 AM PDT by glock rocks
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To: ctdonath2
Ask the car's owner if she wants her daughter to take that advice to heart and become a drug-addled 'ho.

First, I don't think I'll be asking her that question. But it is interesting to note that she now has 3 daughters with the oldest currently a home-schooled four-year-old. I pray for my bother...

43 posted on 04/16/2002 11:40:25 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: scholar
The average wife, mother and homemaker is not likely to get even 15 minutes of fame

Maybe not to the general public. A good mother, however, gets a lifetime of praise and devotion from her family. Goes for husband, father and provider as well.

15 minutes of fame passes quickly, and nobody gives a s*** afterwards. Trust me.

44 posted on 04/16/2002 11:40:49 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: RooRoobird14
No wackoe lefist woman's bumper is complete without THE original womyn sticker (BARF):

"A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle."

Followed by its rejoinder: "A man needs a woman like a fish needs a gill net."

45 posted on 04/16/2002 11:43:14 AM PDT by guitfiddlist
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
My question is exactly what does the "Well-behaved women rarely make history" statement suppose to mean?

She's at minimum a feminist and at worst......

You did say she was married to a man didn't you?

46 posted on 04/16/2002 11:43:26 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
I don't think I'll be asking her that question.

Perhaps you should. Those girls will see that sign on a regular basis.

"Mommy, what does this say? what does that mean?"

47 posted on 04/16/2002 11:43:38 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: ctdonath2
Bump for all the wonderful women (and men) who do His work quietly every day. REAL women (and men) don't need the approval of pop culture.... empty bitchy trendy whiny windbags do.
48 posted on 04/16/2002 11:46:04 AM PDT by WALLACE212
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
The same can be said of men. Rarely at the time someone is making history are they considered conventional or well-behaved. Seriously.
49 posted on 04/16/2002 11:46:10 AM PDT by mconder
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To: FreeTally
Man, where is the "Love Your Mother" bumper sticker with the picture of the Earth?

Yeah, and where's the "Choose Death" sticker too?
50 posted on 04/16/2002 11:47:34 AM PDT by chriservative
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