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Is This The Real Noah's Ark, Found At Last? The Mystery Of The "Ararat Anomaly"
TooGood Reports ^ | 4/15/02 | Isaiah Flair

Posted on 04/16/2002 12:12:59 PM PDT by Good Tidings Of Great Joy

It may be exactly what millions of people believe that it is. If so, it is the greatest archaeological find in centuries.

Its official name is "The Ararat Anomaly".

An independent correlation of maps of the region with information released in 1995 by the United States Defense Intelligence Agency places the Ararat Anomaly at "approximately 39 42' 10" N 044 16' 30" E at an elevation of approximately 14-15,000 feet and approximately 2.2 KM horizontal distance west of the summit".

It is located by the Ahora Gorge, near the summit of Mt. Ararat, in Turkey. Turkey, in turn, is bordered by the Black Sea and the Mediterranean Sea.

The October 2001 American Journal of Archaeology attested to massive flooding in the region 7,500 years ago, noting that the Black Sea was "abruptly filled by waters from the Mediterranean when the Bosporus was cut by rising world sea levels."

Mt. Ararat itself is of volcanic origin, glaciated and covered with ice and loose rocks. Expeditions, while not impossible, are dangerous due to frequent avalanches. Indeed, an avalanche in 1840 destroyed a 500-year-old monastery, which had in turn preserved many of the artifacts that had been discovered in the area.

The weather is also treacherous. Mt. Ararat is a magnet for thunderstorms. The resulting inclement weather often impedes progress towards the summit. On the other hand, locals say that the storms result in beautiful rainbows.

Kurdish rebels tend to shoot at foreigners seeking to explore Mt. Ararat, a not-unimportant fact which has dissuaded many from pursuing the facts about whatever it is up there.

On June 17, 1949, a United States Air Force plane flew a then-classified aerial photographic mission over Mt. Ararat. The pilot, to his surprise, recorded two images of the Ararat Anomaly — a linear, oddly symmetrical shape approximately 600 feet in length, with roughly 90 feet of that length protruding clearly from out of the snow and ice.

Whatever it was appeared to be damaged.

The pilot also recorded three pictures of a second anomaly, smaller, and similar in shape, nearby. It was speculated that something had been split in half, or more exactly into a 2/3 part and a 1/3 part by one or more of Mt. Ararat´s frequent avalanches. The smaller part may have, according to more recent United States Government satellite images of the Ararat Anomaly, slipped into the Ahora Gorge.

The Ahora Gorge is a full mile wide, and reportedly miles deep. It may hold quite a few answers.

These findings were accentuated by the pictures taken between October of 1999 and the summer of 2000 by the Ikonos 2 Satellite, which resolves images as small as one meter across.

From the 1949 pictures, per the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) analysis thereof released in 1995, there are from the front of the surviving 2/3, now known as the Ararat Anomaly, three giant, prong-like structures, akin to what might be found in an ancient marine vessel. Similar structures were similarly identified in images of the smaller anomaly, the 1/3 of the original that may be lost to the depths of the Ahora Gorge.

Nearby, on Parrot Glacier, French explorer Fernand Navarra found a five-foot long piece of carefully hand-crafted wood.

Published reports confirm that the hand-crafted piece of wood found by Navarra was submitted to the National Museum of Natural History in Paris, France, the Forestry Institute of Research and Experiments of the Ministry of Agriculture in Madrid, Spain and the Department of Anthropology and Prehistoric Studies at the University of Bordeaux in France.

The age of the hand-crafted piece of wood was determined to be in excess of 5,000 years old.

The site where it was found was only a few hundred meters from the site of the 1949 U.S. Air Force pictures.

However, Navarra was unaware of those pictures when he submitted his discovery: those pictures remained classified until 1982. Navarra independently made his discovery in the same area on July 5, 1955.

And then, finally, there is the interesting report of proto-Sumerian pictographs found on a rock from a cave near Mt. Ararat´s Ahora Gorge, as reported in the National Geographic Society's publication, Research & Exploration, Vol. 10, No. 4, 1994, p. 484.

The pictographs refer to the covenant of the bright bow and add "let man and woman go forth and procreate".

The pictographs, collectively, are known as the "Ahora Covenant Inscription".

Notwithstanding all of that... the central question, of course, is whether what has been officially recognized as "The Ararat Anomaly" is — or was — a boat.

More specifically, a very, very ancient boat which set forth thousands of years ago, through torrential rains, into the deepening water of a great deluge, alighting on dry land after forty days and forty nights...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: ark; bible; boats; christianity; crevolist; defensedepartment; facts; faith; godsgravesglyphs; history; middleeast; mountains; mysteries; noah; noahsark; religio
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1 posted on 04/16/2002 12:12:59 PM PDT by Good Tidings Of Great Joy
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To: Good Tidings Of Great Joy
The flooding of Euxine Lake may have been impressive, but would it splash a boat 2.5 miles up onto the side of a mountain?
2 posted on 04/16/2002 12:16:36 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: Good Tidings Of Great Joy
pics?
3 posted on 04/16/2002 12:18:39 PM PDT by camle
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To: camle
There are only a few pics of the Ararat Anomaly. The Discovery Channel did a wonderful special on the anomaly, but it left a great many questions needing to be answered.
4 posted on 04/16/2002 12:21:57 PM PDT by RikaStrom
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To: camle
Try here
5 posted on 04/16/2002 12:23:25 PM PDT by RikaStrom
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To: RikaStrom

6 posted on 04/16/2002 12:25:36 PM PDT by RikaStrom
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To: camle
One last site.

The Search for Noah's Ark

8 posted on 04/16/2002 12:27:44 PM PDT by RikaStrom
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To: freedombelle
FYI
9 posted on 04/16/2002 12:28:17 PM PDT by tinacart
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To: RikaStrom
thanx teach, but I still don't see anything convincing. You, or someone else must eludicate me, but I need more resolution. if these cams can do one meter resolution, we should see a much more convinging image.
10 posted on 04/16/2002 12:30:23 PM PDT by camle
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To: camle
Here's one...

From: SPACE.COM

11 posted on 04/16/2002 12:31:33 PM PDT by in the Arena
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To: Good Tidings Of Great Joy
If it's Noah's ark, I'll eat my hat.
12 posted on 04/16/2002 12:32:02 PM PDT by Junior
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To: in the Arena
thanx. seen it. could be wierd rocks for all I know.

OK, OK! so I'm a skeptic. Doubting Thomas was too, and he went to heaven.

13 posted on 04/16/2002 12:32:30 PM PDT by camle
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To: camle
The lack of elucidation is what annoyed me with the special on Discovery too.

Here is another photo, not quite as bright as the one above. What really annoys me is that with the spy satellite capabilities we have, why can't we focus one of them on this anomaly for long enough to get a really good picture taken? Or perhaps they have, and choose not to release the picture. Who knows.


14 posted on 04/16/2002 12:34:15 PM PDT by RikaStrom
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To: lexcorp
Followed by "WWII Bombers found on the Moon."
15 posted on 04/16/2002 12:34:30 PM PDT by AdA$tra
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To: RikaStrom
well.. don't get me wrong, but I've seen quite a lot of thest pics in my travels, and still nothing to convinve me. Whilst some pics certainly would beg for a follow up, I remain unconvinced. but since I already et, my hat is safe for the moment:-)
16 posted on 04/16/2002 12:35:53 PM PDT by camle
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To: camle
I'm a skeptic also...

All these reports every few years peak peoples interest...someone's making money on this deal...

17 posted on 04/16/2002 12:37:40 PM PDT by in the Arena
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To: in the Arena
I gota a better idee - why not lets go ourselves and see? OR send someone who has their health, and vid the whole trip? Hmm... wonder if my finadvisor would allow me to do something this odd...
18 posted on 04/16/2002 12:38:59 PM PDT by camle
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To: lexcorp
If there were an ark, it would have been disassembled and the wood used in dwelling units, especially in a region where all the trees had been smashed into toothpicks and washed away.
19 posted on 04/16/2002 12:39:14 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: RikaStrom
why can't we focus one of them on this anomaly for long enough to get a really good picture taken?

You can order up an Ikonos image of anything you want. You just have to pay for it... It isn't cheap. And governments have more pressing interests.

AB

20 posted on 04/16/2002 12:40:17 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard
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To: camle
I agree with you, but if the means to answer the question is within our grasp, why can't we fly the handy dandy little satellite over the area and zoom in on the lens?

If you do get a chance, and the special comes back on Discovery Channel, give it a watch. It's rather interesting in a historical way. But I still want detailed pics. I am slightly curious. :-)

21 posted on 04/16/2002 12:40:37 PM PDT by RikaStrom
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To: RightWhale
Good point. The story told in Noah's Flood is pretty interesting. Recent research has found evidence of settlements on the ancient lake shore, now under the Black Sea.
22 posted on 04/16/2002 12:41:45 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: ArrogantBustard
Yep. According to what I have heard, they've already requested the pics from Ikonos, but I don't know what they actually showed.
23 posted on 04/16/2002 12:42:54 PM PDT by RikaStrom
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To: RikaStrom
in my younger and more vulnerable years, I read a book called "Noah's Ark - I touched it" by some dude, and got entranced by the subject. I'd dearly love to go, but alas I doubt I could do any serious climbing without mucho help.

I'd go tomorrow if I could, tho...

24 posted on 04/16/2002 12:43:55 PM PDT by camle
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To: Good Tidings Of Great Joy
Dr. Stan Monteif had an interview about this a couple of days ago. His web site is www.radioliberty.com. The archive for his latest show is here. The interview is entitled "Richard Rives - Looking for Noahs Ark". You'll need realplayer.
25 posted on 04/16/2002 12:44:13 PM PDT by tang-soo
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To: Good Tidings Of Great Joy
No doubt the muslims will now claim it as a 'holy site' because some fourth cousin of the neighbor of mohammed's goat was 'martyred' nearby when he tried to steal a camel, which is OK since the camel belonged to a non-believing infidel. [reference Basilica of the Anunciation, Church of the Nativity, Temple Mount, etc.....]
26 posted on 04/16/2002 12:44:32 PM PDT by LA-Lawyer
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To: LA-Lawyer
careful with them camel jokes, son:-)

besides, you're spelling it wrong.

27 posted on 04/16/2002 12:47:29 PM PDT by camle
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To: LA-Lawyer
That's a good one. Actually, I think they will claim that Mohammed ascended to heaven (for the second time) from the site of the Ark.
28 posted on 04/16/2002 12:47:29 PM PDT by TomT in NJ
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To: RikaStrom; camle
Whoops, I lied. It was the History Channel.
29 posted on 04/16/2002 12:48:06 PM PDT by RikaStrom
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To: RikaStrom
history channel? that bastion of factual research and integrity?

that cools things down a bit.

I'm all atwitter. wonder if the "boss" would allow me a few weeks vaca to do some foreign travel...

30 posted on 04/16/2002 12:49:58 PM PDT by camle
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To: blam
bump to BLAM.
31 posted on 04/16/2002 12:51:02 PM PDT by LostTribe
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To: camle
history channel? that bastion of factual research and integrity?

ROFLOL

I know, but I did say it left more questions than answers. :-)

32 posted on 04/16/2002 12:54:02 PM PDT by RikaStrom
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To: RikaStrom
I wanted to buy the vids on the Jeep and the Cadillac, but at $24.95 each, that's at least 40% more that they're worth.
33 posted on 04/16/2002 12:55:33 PM PDT by camle
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To: RikaStrom
If our spy satellites can read a license plate or the text on a newspaper they surely can focus in and get photos that will end the controversy once and for all.

I also find it hard to believe that a wood structure over 2,000 years old and exposed to the elements would still be intact. Yes it happens. But what are the chances of this 1 particular structure surviving?

34 posted on 04/16/2002 12:56:25 PM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: Good Tidings Of Great Joy
I don't get it. What is new or newsworthy about this article? This anomaly has been known for a long time and no one has been able to get to it.
35 posted on 04/16/2002 12:59:58 PM PDT by limitedgov
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To: Phantom Lord
That was my thought too.

Although one question that was raised about how the structure could survive, if it was there to begin with, is if it was frozen in an avalanche. The possibility in that region is supposed to be fairly high for that sort of activity, avalanche/earthquake stuff.

Again, that came from the special, so I'd take it with a grain or two of salt.

36 posted on 04/16/2002 1:01:36 PM PDT by RikaStrom
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To: Good Tidings Of Great Joy
There are a number of practical issues that make this quite improbable.

1.) Mt. Ararat isn't actually mentioned in the old pre-biblical texts. IIRC, the literally translation is that the ark came to rest in "the mountains of Urartu"(sp?), which basically covers the (very large) entirety of that mountainous region.

2.) It is a very geologically active area and the mountain has violently "restructured" itself on numerous occasions in the last several thousand years, making it improbable that any structure on it would survive that long. More recent historical structures on the mountain have been routinely anihilated by this same geological activity.

3.) And perhaps most importantly, the continuous flow of glaciers scrapes the mountain clean from top to near the bottom on timescales that are measured in centuries, not millenia. Even if the ark was originally up there, it would be in a pile of toothpicks at the bottom of the mountain by now. Any structure up above the snow level would have to be young, on the order of a few hundred years old.

So I'm not holding my breath. The ark may be in that region, but the top of Mount Ararat isn't where you'll find it. The local conditions are dynamic enough that it wouldn't have lasted up there for several thousand years.

37 posted on 04/16/2002 1:06:00 PM PDT by tortoise
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To: Phantom Lord
If our spy satellites can read a license plate or the text on a newspaper they surely can focus in and get photos that will end the controversy once and for all.

Dude! It's all part of the Satanic-Atheistic-One-World-Government-New-World-Order that's out to hide all evidence of GOD! You see, their souls are already DAMNED, and they want company in the fiery furnaces of Perdition! If you deny this is the truth your ONE OF THEM!!!

A truly good conspiracy theory posting can be discerned from the number of exclamation points and capitalized words used therein.

38 posted on 04/16/2002 1:06:34 PM PDT by Junior
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To: Junior
Some people will believe anything

The linked photo sells real well in N.E. Thailand and Laos.

39 posted on 04/16/2002 1:13:54 PM PDT by ASA Vet
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To: RikaStrom
This is the photo in your post #14, lightened, cropped, and enlarged. Looks like an outcropping of rock to me, but what do I know?!


40 posted on 04/16/2002 1:34:06 PM PDT by Helen
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To: tortoise
I have always been intrigued by the number of people, language and country names in the area that have a phonetic similarity to the name Ararat: Ur(of the Chaldees), Iraq, Iran, Arabia, Armenia, Urdu, Aram(Syria), Arad, Arcadia, and of course Aryan. There are many more. I don't know if this is a racial memory associated with Ararat or if it is just a popular phoneme. Of course Ireland, Argentina, and Uraguay just confuse the issue!
41 posted on 04/16/2002 1:47:40 PM PDT by limitedgov
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To: Okiegolddust
Don't leave your cake out in the rain!
43 posted on 04/16/2002 2:24:44 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: Good Tidings Of Great Joy
I can't help but think any ark would have been scavenged for parts long ago. Those cut timbers would have come in handy to the first couple of generations out of the ark.
44 posted on 04/16/2002 3:13:45 PM PDT by Ahban
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To: RightWhale;LostTribe;Good Tidings Of Great Joy;RikaStrom
"The flooding of Euxine Lake may have been impressive, but would it splash a boat 2.5 miles up onto the side of a mountain?"

Not a chance. Let's go from another angle. If the Mediterranean Ocean was blocked at Gilbraltar during the Ice Age it would have likely dried out quite a bit and have had a greatly reduced water level for perhaps thousands of years.(Many communities/cities would have been built on the shore line). If and when the water broke through the 'plug' at Gilbralter (there is scouring on the ocean flood to support this idea) it would have begun a slow flooding of the coastal communities of the Mediterranean ocean.
There would have been thousands (maybe millions) of refugees streaming all over the place escaping their flooded coastal cities.
Word would have reached Noah that the whole world was flooding. At some point, the plug at the Bosporus would have blown and began to create even more panic and refugees and certainly confirmed the reports and rumors of a catastrophic flood.

Noah, in his wisdom, could see that the Black Sea was rising at one foot per day and probably estimated the height at which he had to begin to build the Ark (big, big,ship) so that he could complete it before the rising water reached the building site.....and that's why it's way up on the mountain. The water never reached it because the Black Sea and the Mediterranean reached equilibrium with the waters of the worlds oceans.

Another possibility is that Noah could have started building the Ark when reports of flooding in the Mediterranean began to arrive. The flooding of the Mediterranean could/would have changed weather/climate patterns and created the 'forty days and forty nights' of rain story recorded in the bible and an explanation for all the flooding that was apparent.

45 posted on 04/16/2002 3:16:30 PM PDT by blam
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To: RikaStrom
"The possibility in that region is supposed to be fairly high for that sort of activity, avalanche/earthquake stuff."

I would think that the higher up, the less the avalanche activity just because it would be colder. I'm thinking that the seasonal margins would see the most activity.

46 posted on 04/16/2002 3:27:19 PM PDT by blam
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To: Junior
If it's Noah's ark, I'll eat my hat.

This one? Watch out. It's spicy. But if not spicy enough for you, you can add this:

Bon apitite!

47 posted on 04/16/2002 3:35:56 PM PDT by mc5cents
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To: RikaStrom
I am more than slightly curious...and the fact that that area is known for it's brilliant rainbows is awe inspiring to me.
48 posted on 04/16/2002 3:48:34 PM PDT by ruoflaw
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