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Explorer Thor Heyerdahl, 87, Dies
AP, via Newsday.com ^ | 19 April 2002 | DOUG MELLGREN

Posted on 04/19/2002 3:19:18 AM PDT by Vigilant1

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:20 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

OSLO, Norway -- Thor Heyerdahl, the Norwegian explorer who crossed the Pacific on a balsa log raft to prove his theories of human migration, has died at 87.

Heyerdahl, whose book "Kon-Tiki" on the daring 101-day voyage sold millions of copies, stopped taking food, water or medication in early April after being diagnosed with a terminal brain tumor. He died Thursday night in his sleep at home in Colla Michari, Italy, said his son, Thor Heyerdahl Jr.

Heyerdahl had been hospitalized near there in late March when he became ill over the Easter holiday.


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KEYWORDS: anthropology; archaeology; egyptians; explorer; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; heyerdahl; history; kontiki; maldives; obituaries; obituary; ra; reed; sumerians; thor
When other anthropologists mired in the conventional wisdom sneered at Hyerdahl's theories as impossible, Thor put his life on the line and went out and conclusively proved that what he claimed could, in fact, have been done with ancient technology by simply doing it himself.

Bon voyage, Thor, we'll miss you.

1 posted on 04/19/2002 3:19:18 AM PDT by Vigilant1
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To: Vigilant1
Bon voyage, Thor, we'll miss you.

Thank you for saying that. He came to visit my parents, years ago when I was very small, and I vaguely recall meeting him. My Dad was a very skilled amatuer boat-builder, and they talked for hours. How & when they first met is lost to me, but I'll ask my Mom next time I see her.

2 posted on 04/19/2002 3:44:14 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: Vigilant1
Man! After what this guy has done I feel like a total wussy surfin the internet.
3 posted on 04/19/2002 4:14:04 AM PDT by Buffalo Bob
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To: Vigilant1
stopped taking food, water or medication in early April after being diagnosed with a terminal brain tumor. He died Thursday night in his sleep at home in Colla Michari, Italy,

I'm surprised nobody else commented on this. Here we have a case of a great man who is 87 years old,having to die a painful death from starvation because of archaic religious laws that prevented him from getting a doctor to show him the same courtesy we show dogs and cats.

4 posted on 04/19/2002 4:29:26 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: backhoe
YOU MET HIM?!?!?!?!?!?

As a child, in Cuba, I read the Voyage of the Kon Tiki, it was the greatest adventure book that I had ever read, still is today.

Smooth seas Thor, fare thee well.

5 posted on 04/19/2002 5:16:20 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Vigilant1
I have been an admirer of Mr. Heyerdahl for a short while. My conclusions on him: he just proved everyone wrong. Conventional wisdom...he was empirical wisdom.

Enjoy the view from above...

6 posted on 04/19/2002 5:54:03 AM PDT by mattdono
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To: sneakypete
Nothing prevented Heyerdahl from killing himself sooner. Holland, not too far from Norway, legalized euthanasia in November of 2000 and I'm certain had he wanted to he could have found a pharmaceutical cocktail to do the job sooner if he had wanted. He made his decision to refuse medication, food and water on April 9th, slipped into a coma on April 16th and died on the 18th. No one and or no law forced him to do what he chose to do.
7 posted on 04/19/2002 6:14:50 AM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: Luis Gonzalez
As a child, in Cuba, I read the Voyage of the Kon Tiki, it was the greatest adventure book that I had ever read, still is today.

Ditto... when I was 10 years old Kon Tiki really opened my eyes to what a great adventure reading can be...

8 posted on 04/19/2002 6:29:19 AM PDT by hangin' chad
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Luis, my Dad was an amatuer boat-builder of some renown ( an engineer by training, he grew up on Cape Hatteras in the 1890's and learned the trade from his Dad, who was the bar pilot of Nags Head/Diamond Shoals ) and for some reason "Tor" as my Mom still calls him, stopped by the house to visit. I was so small I only recall a "large" ( but they all were then! ) and friendly man. I still have a copy of Kon-Tiki, which I just tried to locate, but it's buried in a stack of stuff.

My Dad knew a lot of interesting & sometimes famous people, nearly all gone now, as is he- all I can say is "Smooth sailing, clear skies, and a steady wind to you, oldtimers- the world will not see your like again."

9 posted on 04/19/2002 9:00:45 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
Nothing prevented Heyerdahl from killing himself sooner.

He didn't know he had a unoperable brain tumor sooner.

Holland, not too far from Norway, legalized euthanasia in November of 2000

So what? He wasn't a Dutch citizen,so he couldn't apply for euthanasia. There is a whole process that has to be accomplished before this happens,including interviews with other doctors.

and I'm certain had he wanted to he could have found a pharmaceutical cocktail to do the job sooner if he had wanted.

Why are you so certain of this? The man was 87 years old. It's not like he was out every night at rave parties.

He made his decision to refuse medication, food and water on April 9th, slipped into a coma on April 16th and died on the 18th.

Ok,so he was only conscious of his starvation for a mere week. I'm sure it was a REAL pleasant week,both for him and for his family.

No one and or no law forced him to do what he chose to do.

He obviously felt like his disease left him no choice,and the law DID prevent him from getting a drug coctail from a doctor that would work quickly.

10 posted on 04/19/2002 10:28:22 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: backhoe
bump...thanks for you post...it sounds as if you were very blessed with a father who attracted interesting friends and visitors to the home...and what a great place to grow up.
11 posted on 04/19/2002 6:17:30 PM PDT by hangin' chad
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To: dallas;tennessee_bob;riley1992;maxwell;BIGsigh
I thuppothe after his voyage he wath tho Thor he could hardly pith.
12 posted on 04/19/2002 6:21:57 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Buffalo Bob
I got news for you...
13 posted on 04/19/2002 6:22:23 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: sneakypete
I'm surprised nobody else commented on this. Here we have a case of a great man who is 87 years old,having to die a painful death from starvation because of archaic religious laws that prevented him from getting a doctor to show him the same courtesy we show dogs and cats.

I wonder, do you support assisted suicide?

14 posted on 04/19/2002 6:24:05 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
I wonder, do you support assisted suicide?

You can stop wondering,because I do.

15 posted on 04/19/2002 9:16:55 PM PDT by sneakypete
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To: sneakypete
So you think spaying or neutering would have helped?
16 posted on 04/19/2002 9:35:46 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
So you think spaying or neutering would have helped?

I'm willing to let you do your own family planning.

17 posted on 04/20/2002 12:04:53 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: hangin' chad
My Father was perhaps the most charismatic person I have ever known.... people were just "drawn" to him, and he could entertain for hours with witty, poignant, and funny stories of the rich, famous, and little-known but noteworthy people he knew from almost 95 years of living.

He was also gifted with what I call "clear seeing"-- he had an uncanny ability to cut through the smoke and haze of conflicting arguments and stories and see the truth with perfect clarity. Many, many times I though the old man was dead wrong about a person or an issue, only to find on gaining more information or living experience myself that he had been dead to rights all along.
Yes, I sure miss him!

I can only hope the he "sailed beyond the sunset" and he & "Tor" are hoisting a fine glass of Jim Beam or Wild Turkey in a better world than this one....

18 posted on 04/20/2002 3:10:13 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
I thuppothe after his voyage he wath tho Thor he could hardly pith.

Bwahaha...

What I meant to thay ith, I am deeply thaddened.

19 posted on 04/20/2002 10:43:51 AM PDT by maxwell
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To: Vigilant1
Thor wrote a book about his year long honeymoon on a very primitive island in the Pacific. She had to be some gal.

The one line that I remember was that plagues are mankinds foxes. Relating to the fact that as the lemming population increased in the artic the foxes had larger litters.

20 posted on 05/18/2002 12:50:44 AM PDT by Jim Thornley
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To: sneakypete
I'm surprised nobody else commented on this.

Nobody commented because Mr. Hyerdahl was not a dog or a cat. He probably wouldn't have taken the easy way out anyway. Why would he want to wimp out at 87 when he never did during the rest of his life?

21 posted on 09/05/2002 7:49:44 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
Nothing prevented Heyerdahl from killing himself sooner. Holland, not too far from Norway, legalized euthanasia in November of 2000

I doubt the Dutch allow this for non-citizens.

22 posted on 09/05/2002 6:26:20 PM PDT by sneakypete
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Why would he want to wimp out at 87 when he never did during the rest of his life?

"Wimp out"? You have no idea what pain really is,do you? You make these HorseHillary statements based on your religious superstitions,and you want the rest of the world to have to suffer along with you.

23 posted on 09/05/2002 6:35:43 PM PDT by sneakypete
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24 posted on 09/05/2002 6:36:18 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: sneakypete
I doubt the Dutch allow this for non-citizens.

So you think they would have prosecuted him?

25 posted on 09/05/2002 7:57:58 PM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: sneakypete
Christianity is not a superstition. It is quite rational.
26 posted on 09/05/2002 8:03:04 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Vigilant1
Thor put his life on the line and went out and conclusively proved that what he claimed could, in fact, have been done with ancient technology by simply doing it himself.

No doubt that Thor Heyerdahl's adventures were both interesting and hazardous.

But from an objective perspective, his "conclusive proof" is pure junk science.

Fabricating "evidence" is not "proof".

The only "proof" we can ever obtain lies in whatever archaeological artifacts and manuscripts we can recover.
Many things will never be known conclusively.

That said, Thor Heyerdahl: RIP. You made some entertaining documentaries.

27 posted on 09/05/2002 8:06:52 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
I thuppothe after his voyage he wath tho Thor he could hardly pith.

Is that supposed to be funny?

28 posted on 09/05/2002 8:10:21 PM PDT by Quietly
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To: Quietly
Only to those with a sense of humor. Someone with hemorrhoids might be offended. Should I care? I think not.
29 posted on 09/05/2002 8:19:33 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
So you think they would have prosecuted him?

For what? For something that couldn't have happened because he wasn't a Dutch citizen,and couldn't fullfill the requirements?

30 posted on 09/05/2002 8:54:29 PM PDT by sneakypete
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To: sneakypete
"Wimp out"? You have no idea what pain really is,do you?

I had no idea you were clarivoyant. Could you please give me Saturday's lottery numbers?

It has been proven that providing terminal patients with enough painkiller to make them comfortable restores their will to live. Legalized euthanasia is not the answer. Revamping the archaic narcotics laws that allow the DEA to destroy any physician that they accuse of "overprescribing" narcotics to terminal and chronically in pain patients IS the answer.

Heroin is the most effective pain reliever ever invented, but its use is no longer allowed in legitimate medicine becaue of "War on Some Drugs" dementia.

Euthanasia is only the answer for people who love death.

31 posted on 09/06/2002 6:05:53 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I had no idea you were clarivoyant.

Now you know,so you won't have this excuse in the future.

Could you please give me Saturday's lottery numbers?

Yes,I could,but I won't. You're too snotty.

It has been proven that providing terminal patients with enough painkiller to make them comfortable restores their will to live.

Try to sell this HorseHillary to people who don't know better. There is a level of pain that can only be defeated by sedating the patient to the point where he don't even know what he is,much less if he hurts. People this heavily sedated have no idea if they are fire,much less if they want to live.

Legalized euthanasia is not the answer.

It IS a answer to people who want it,and who have no desire to bankrupt their families while putting them through a living hell,all for no good reason other than to satisfy the religious prejudices of others.

Revamping the archaic narcotics laws that allow the DEA to destroy any physician that they accuse of "overprescribing" narcotics to terminal and chronically in pain patients IS the answer.

I surely can't argue that the above IS ONE answer,even if it's not the only one. Who the hell cares if somebody in severe pain who is dying becomes addicted to the drug? What possible difference could this make?

Heroin is the most effective pain reliever ever invented, but its use is no longer allowed in legitimate medicine becaue of "War on Some Drugs" dementia.

Well,to be fair,I think it was banned from use long before the current insanity became so prevalent. I THINK that prohibition may go all the way back to the "Reefer Madness" days of the 30's.

Euthanasia is only the answer for people who love death.

This is a political/religious stance that has nothing at all to do with reality. Nobody loves death,and there is nothing to prevent healthy people from comitting suicide any time they want. The problem is with severely ill people who are in severe pain who no longer have the ability to do this for themselves,and who may be forced to suffer against their will due to these archaic laws. Euthanasia shouldn't be forced on anybody,but it SHOULD be a option for any terminally ill person who wants it. This is the ultimate "personal choice" issue.

32 posted on 09/06/2002 9:51:41 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: sneakypete
Thank you for your opinion, Dr. Kevorkian.

NEXT!?

33 posted on 09/06/2002 9:53:20 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
This is the ultimate "personal choice" issue.

Funny how "personal choice" always revolves around killing, isn't it? Abortion is a "personal choice." Euthenasia is a "personal choice."

And you say you don't love death.

34 posted on 09/06/2002 9:55:10 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: Willie Green
This man proved it could be done.

However, to prove that it actually was done, one needs to have the evidence you spoke of.

Thus, his voyages proved it could be done, which negates the impossibility argument. When people, including scientists, believe something is impossible, they will tend to go to great lengths interpret away evidence which tends to prove that it happened.

That is why you shouldn't dismiss his work as irrelevant.

35 posted on 09/06/2002 10:02:27 AM PDT by The Man
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To: The Man
Thus, his voyages proved it could be done, which negates the impossibility argument.

If he had failed and lost his life at sea, would that have proved it impossible?

No.

The "impossibility" arguement had no sound scientific basis.
It was merely a matter of conjecture on the laws of probablity that govern the struggle of Man vs. the forces of Nature.

Thor Heyerdahl's accomplishments were indeed remarkable and admirable.
But they are not "sience".

Similar junk science is pursued today, most vividly involving speculation regarding the method of constructing the Pyramids. Like many, I find the various clever approaches tested by archeological enthusiasts and broadcast on the Discovery or History channels to be fascinating and educational entertainment. But I don't regard it as "science". Proof will only come from hard archeological evidence, if such proof still exists.

36 posted on 09/06/2002 10:29:45 AM PDT by Willie Green
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