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1 posted on 04/19/2002 12:42:27 PM PDT by vannrox
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To: vannrox
Immanuel Velikovsky is dead. Let him rest in peace.
2 posted on 04/19/2002 1:15:10 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: vannrox
We're dooomed... DOOOOOOOOooooommmed...

Wall Street Journal: "World Ends Tomorrow - Markets Plunge in Heavy Trading"
New York Times: "World to End Tomorrow - Details and Analysis on Page 13"
U.S.A. Today: "We're Outta Here!"
Washington Post: "World Ends Tomorrow - Women and Minorities Hardest Hit"

Actually, on a somewhat more (or less) serious note...

The energy corresponding to Turco's data is 1.4 1025 erg, approximately the same liberated in the explosion of five hundred hydrogen bombs of one megaton (500 MT); the energy corresponding to Ganapathy's data would be 1000 MT. Estimates as low as 10 MT or 30 MT have also been given (Ben-Menahem [103], Deacon [104]), while La Violette [105] again argues for energies in the range 250 - 1000 MT. An important effect of the Tunguska atmospheric explosion, analyzed by Turco et al., may have been the production of large amounts of nitric oxide (up to 30 million tons), leading to a strong depletion (30%) of the stratospheric ozone.

I read, in a book on the event, that the ratio of radiated energy to mechanical ("blast") energy which was calculated of that event, is *only* possible in a nuclear event - that *no* chemical reaction or ordinary mechanical explosion could have produced the effects found at Tunguska.

4 posted on 04/19/2002 2:12:01 PM PDT by fire_eye
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To: vannrox
First impression: there is no such word as catastrophical.
5 posted on 04/19/2002 2:12:58 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: vannrox
Thanks for the post, gonna bookmark.
7 posted on 04/19/2002 9:23:48 PM PDT by jwfiv
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To: vannrox
I am always suitably impressed at the ability of the educated tin-foil crowd to predict our impending doom with footnotes. The scale of devastation from these scenarios is always beyond our technological capability to deal with, threat and aftermath. If they are right we die off in large numbers. If they are wrong we die off in large numbers from something else. C'est la vie ou c'est le mort. My fear is palpable and unavoidable. Bartender! Could I get another Heineken?
10 posted on 01/02/2003 11:34:48 AM PST by Movemout
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Brian Marsden's "Catalogue of Cometary Orbits"..as of 1997..added to since that time...lists roughly 1,548 comets for which sufficient data exist to compute orbits...91 from the extremely scanty historical data that has come down to us from the period before the 17th Century..the rest from cometary passages recorded during the last 3 centuries.
What science really knows about comets..in other words...derives from data on an incredibly narrow sample of cometary behavior as observed from our tiny corner of the universe...in 3 centuries.
As per the article...planetary gravametrics do influnce the behavior of comets and the fragmented break up of supers which now circle in ellipses around the sun..or in ellipses around the outer solar system.
Recent study has found out that comets outgas at an unpredictable rate...most noted when heading away from the Sun.
The outgassing..like your Appollo or Space Shuttle's thrusters used for postional adjustment...in the case of the comets...they begin to barrel roll and shift postion like rocket boosters were being fired....the outcome...their postional ellipse changes....the movement changing thier angle..and time.
studying return dates of comets reveals this gravametric/thruster shifting..which equals time values...meaning that a miss by 500,000 klms and a certain number of hrs ..maybe come a close call later..and possibly an impact.
Comet Hale Bopp showed up out of nowhere...having not been seen for an estimated 4,000 yrs.
some comets with orbits of 12,000-90,000 yrs could theoretically appear out of the night sky...at any time..without warning.
The "Cape effect"..the violent outgassing of the comets reveals they can shift their orbits..making mapping them a guess.
Since the first optical confirmation of the existence of giant comets in the Kuiper belt in 1992 no such object has yet been seen to fragment.
Ordinary comets,which are intimately related to the giants in every respect are frequently observed to break apart..relasing swarms of debrie...like "MIRVed" intercontinental missile warheads.
One example was comet Biela..which had a computed orbit that came within 20,000 miles of the Earth.
Discovered in 1826....its return was calculated..retarding influence of Jupiter and Saturn incorporated.
In 1832 it missed by one month.
In 1846 something happened...it appeared in 2 seperate pieces...like 2 race horses 16,000 miles apart.
Now it has dissapeared...its fragments hanging around out their somewhere.
From 1885 to 1892 spectacular meteor showers were seen...in some locals 160,000 shooting stars...
Today the debrie of comet Biela returns annually as the Andromeda meteor shower.
12 posted on 01/02/2003 1:35:38 PM PST by Light Speed
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17 posted on 05/19/2005 8:55:07 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Tuesday, May 10, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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To: NoCmpromiz

ping, I think..


18 posted on 07/22/2005 10:28:17 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (Deja Moo - The feeling you've heard this bull before...)
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from 2002:
Catastrophism

19 posted on 07/22/2006 10:17:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Wednesday, June 21, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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