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Patriots Rally For America San Francisco version 4/20/02
21 April 2002 | CounterCounterCulture / Photographer: Syncro

Posted on 04/21/2002 9:36:20 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture

Patriots Rally For America – San Francisco version – 4/20/02

Today the main Freepers rally to counter the Palestinian/Anarchists/”Peaceniks” /whatever was in Washington D.C. There was a west coast version in the Baghdad-by-the-Bay (San Francisco).

The total attendance on our side was about 14-15. Freepers included…


And others not associated with FR that was disgusted with the leftist hate-mongers such as Mary, Darren, Carol, Ron, Joseph, a veteran, and my friend Pat. There were a few others whose names I didn’t write down.

Deeel-me-in (David), Pat, and myself commuted up from San Jose to voice our disgust with the opposition. Perhaps it was an omen, but we barely escaped getting sideswiped by a pickup truck that spun out of control on the I-280 freeway and ended up facing the other direction without rolling over by the time he or she stopped.

We arrived the civic center parking lot at about noon, our rally start point. Drango and mac_truck were all ready for us and somehow our patriotic garb gave us away. :-)

By about 12:20, we had our signage and bullhorn all set for Freeping in front of City Hall. The other side was doing a 2-mile march from Dolores Park to the Civic Center Plaza, across the street from City Hall. But there was already a large contingent of Palestinians and supporters across from us who weren’t doing the march. We could see many Palestinian flags as well as the various left-wing booths, soundstage, and of course buses.

Soon we caught them off guard with our pro-America/pro-Israel group that was about ten strong at this point. Once American Preservative and Syncro (a.k.a., Dr. Zoo) arrived, we gave them a good showing.

Our signs were decidedly pro-American, pro-Israel, and anti-terrorist/Arafat. The other side had the typical offensive signs equating or superimposing the swastika over the Star of David.

The media, KPIX-5 and Spanish language station KDTV-14, along with the San Jose Mercury News, covered and interviewed our unexpected group. Other stations had coverage too but probably followed the parade of fools and were too late by the time all hell broke loose at City Hall.

Early in our rally, the police captain came over to strategize with our group, fearing for our safety with our small numbers compared to their thousands in what the news coverage had described as the “largest march in twenty years,” which is saying something in lefty demonstration friendly San Francisco. The captain was friendly to us and we were equally concerned about our safety. He said if the other side was to get out of hand, which of course was probable, then our group would retreat inside City Hall until things calmed down.

By 1:45pm, the Paleswinians were about halfway across the street chanting inane and hateful slogans toward us and then the parade of fools veered left and headed for City Hall instead of the park. At that point the police officer gave us the sign to move back and then inside City Hall for our own protection. So the leftists trumped our First Amendment rights, not too unusual.

While we were huddled inside near the doors, there was a wedding inside the central part of the building, so we had to keep the noise down in the echoing building. The members were, I think, Japanese, so the police were able to use a little racial profiling to know which ones to let in the building in which ones to keep out.

We looked around and noticed Syncro was missing from our group but were relieved to see him outside playing the part of photographer, documenting the insanity close up.

After a while, the head of security inside City Hall was uncomfortable with our presence at the front and gave us options of either hanging out in the cafeteria downstairs or leaving out the back. About half of us split and the other confabbed downstairs. The catch was that we had to leave our signs off to the side at the front of the building, not being allowed to carry them inside.

So in the cafeteria, a.k.a., The Bunker, myself, Joseph, Pat, deeel-me-in, American Preservative, and eventually Syncro. Also in the bunker were other cops on break before they headed out to join the insanity outside. We could hear over their radios that an Israeli flag was being burned, which Syncro was able to catch on film.

After a while when it seemed too risky to go back out to finish our protest, we gathered back our signs and headed out the side door and stored them in Syncro’s Dr. of Phenomenology vehicle and, except for Joseph, went out for lunch at a Japanese restaurant and shot the breeze. By the time we got done, about 5pm, the leftist swine were taking down their soundstage and stuff, with the park looking like a mess, as usual. And so we live to fight another day against the hateful left in our closest call thus far.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Breaking News; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: arafat; firstamendment; hate; hitler; israel; law; mob; nazis; palestine; peaceniks; sanfrancisco; terrorism; war
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Sorry for the delay in posting. Headaches suck.

More pictures to follow...

1 posted on 04/21/2002 9:36:21 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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2 posted on 04/21/2002 9:45:33 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture
I take my hat off to all of you.

Lansing report

3 posted on 04/21/2002 9:45:55 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan
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PICTURE GROUPING #2: The hatemongers


4 posted on 04/21/2002 9:49:01 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Way to go CCC et al. Glad the police were looking out for your safety.

Salute to the San Francisco FReepers.

5 posted on 04/21/2002 9:50:27 PM PDT by Diver Dave
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6 posted on 04/21/2002 9:54:14 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: American Preservative; deeel-me-in; Drango; mac_truck; Rogue Yam; Syncro
A you-were-there BUMP
7 posted on 04/21/2002 9:55:38 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: Dave Dilegge; Kristinn; Mama_Bear; austinTparty; Cool Guy; oldlizzie; Trueblackman; thunderdome
BUMP
8 posted on 04/21/2002 9:58:29 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture
I'm proud of all of you FReepers, who braved PC San Francisco. (I watched the demonstrations on the news - seemed like the usual one sided hate American crowd.)
9 posted on 04/21/2002 10:01:54 PM PDT by NEWwoman
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Demonstrators in S.F. march in support of Palestinians (San Jose Mercury News)
10 posted on 04/21/2002 10:02:03 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: Jim Robinson; CheneyChick; ladyinred; Saundra Duffy; mtngrl@vrwc; gracie1; SiFiPattie; Mercuria...

11 posted on 04/21/2002 10:10:33 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture
2-4-6-8, Arafat is full of hate Get your BS out of the US Take off your masks (in response to some of the cowards their covering their faces) Erase the hate No more holocausts No justice, no peace (at one point, both sides were shouting this in an awkward moment) Show us your green cards WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO San Fran Freepers!!!! Thankyou! Thankyou! Thankyou! You guys deserve the Free Republic Bravery Award!
12 posted on 04/21/2002 10:12:37 PM PDT by brat
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To: Dan from Michigan
Thanks Dan. Likewise.
13 posted on 04/21/2002 10:14:58 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture
THANK YOU SO MUCH CCC! : )
14 posted on 04/21/2002 10:15:58 PM PDT by American Preservative
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To: CounterCounterCulture; All
Article from www.sfgate.com
15 posted on 04/21/2002 10:18:48 PM PDT by American Preservative
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Leftist soundstage! What a disgrace to have that kind of scum in front of that beautiful building! Hope there is plenty of Greased Lighting cleaner on hand up there to disinfect the stench!
Great job, thanks for all you do!
16 posted on 04/21/2002 10:19:18 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Awesome! Glad you guys all made it home safely. Takes a lot of guts to mix it up with these terrorist supporters.
17 posted on 04/21/2002 10:22:24 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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Previous thread (pre-Freep): STOP THE WARPED! Sat. April 20th, San Francisco FReeportunity!
18 posted on 04/21/2002 10:22:29 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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From post #15 -

....A handful of counter-demonstrators carrying Israeli flags confronted the first arrivals at Civic Center Plaza. Marchers nearly surrounded the group until police intervened and took the pro-Israel group inside City Hall before dispersing them.

"It was for their own safety," police Capt. Alex Fagan said. "There are thousands of people here on the other side, and I couldn't guarantee their safety. So they made their point and then I asked them to leave.".....

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Guess the reporter missed the huge American flags we carried....but sure saw the two tiny Israel flags we also had! And, I guess the reporter didn't want to profile us as Americans (even though some of our FRiends were decked out in red, white and blue)!!

19 posted on 04/21/2002 10:28:58 PM PDT by American Preservative
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To: American Preservative
Guess they wouldn't recognize an American flag that wasn't on fire, eh?
20 posted on 04/21/2002 10:32:39 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture
You guys rock! Thanks for your report and thank you for taking it out to the streets. This is great!
21 posted on 04/21/2002 10:35:15 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: CounterCounterCulture
A+ report!

My report will not try to duplicate what you've said...Instead in a rather disjoined fashion I'll try to amplify and give a sense of some of my “feelings” in the best liberal tradition. When I first arrived I noticed the buses. Buses from around the State had bused in the anti war scum. The left was organized!

The pictures show some of the melee as the scum stormed the steps where we were protesting. We had two 70 year olds and a saint with a cane in our small group. But the pictures can’t show the danger we were in from the “PEACE” activist. 10,000 protesters were no match for the 60 officers in front of us and they penetrated the police lines in a span of seconds. Captain Fagen, the office in charge from the SFPD was wonderful and a credit to LEO’s everywhere. A true diplomat with a very difficult task. He instructed us before the event where to go if the crowds overwhelmed his officers. We had an escape route. Let me make it VERY clear if we had a solid wall behind us, there would have been bloodshed and broken bones. Discretion was the better part of valor as we made a strategic retreat into City Hall.

At the same time I’m befuddled by the police’s unwillingness to support our right to “Free Speech”. I learned that my right was only as good as MY (and my co- FReepers) ability to defend it as the police weren’t about to stop the crowd. Lesson learned.

I had a great time.

22 posted on 04/21/2002 10:35:33 PM PDT by Drango
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From post #10 -

Demonstrators in S.F. march in support of Palestinians
By Sandra Gonzales
Mercury News

In what organizers called one of the largest showings of solidarity for Palestinians in this country, thousands of demonstrators descended on San Francisco streets Saturday, marching and chanting a rallying cry against Israeli and U.S. action in the Middle East.

They waved the Palestinian flag, sang and beat drums, and even did the tango as protesters urged peace in the region, not war.

The estimated 15,000 participants spilled onto the streets and blocked traffic as they marched more than two miles from Dolores Park to Civic Center.

The rally was largely peaceful. No major arrests or incidents of violence were reported by San Francisco police, who deployed more than 60 officers to patrol the rally. But there were a few tense moments.

As the first wave of marchers approached Civic Center for the rally, they pumped their fists and shouted down a group of about 12 counterprotesters who had been standing in front of City Hall, waving the American flag and voicing their support for the United States. To avoid any physical conflict, police wearing riot gear quickly ushered the small group of counterprotesters inside City Hall and stood in a single line blocking the entrance as the pro-Palestinian protesters chanted, ``Free, free Palestine,'' in cries that grew louder by the moment. The crowd eventually moved away from the City Hall steps as the rally at Civic Center began, with speakers demanding an end to Israeli occupation of the West Bank in what demonstrators called a U.S.-Israeli war against the Palestinian people.

The San Francisco rally, one of two major protests organized in the country Saturday, was sponsored by a national coalition that calls itself ANSWER (Act Now to Stop War & End Racism). The coalition was formed, its leaders said, in response to the war in Afghanistan and racist attacks against Arab Americans in the United States after Sept. 11.

In Washington, D.C., as many as 70,000 gathered for a similar protest.

Urging an end to aid to Israel, a spokesman for the group told the San Francisco crowd that the war could not go on without the billions of dollars supplied by the United States. ,p>``There is only one force on Earth that can stop it, and it's not the Democratic Party. . . . It's the people. . . . That's the only thing that's ever changed things in history,'' said Richard Becker, a spokesman for ANSWER, who also serves as western region coordinator of the International Action Center, a peace and justice organization.

Eman Desoukey of the American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee in San Francisco also stirred the crowd. ``We stand in fierce solidarity with our indigenous brothers and sisters who have been struggling bravely for 509 years of colonization of this land that we stand on today,'' Desoukey said.

Organizers said more than 40 buses brought people from around the state and as far away as Seattle and Salt Lake City to the event.

Though the primary theme of the rally was support of Palestinian rights, other causes abounded. Vendors sold bumper stickers and T-shirts and handed out fliers on everything from nuclear policy to Mumia Abu-Jamal, the death-row political activist and journalist. Suzanne Saliba, who was born in Ramallah, on the West Bank, was encouraged by the large gathering.

``Seeing everyone here from different nations makes me feel good. All I've been doing is crying. It just shows that a lot of people are disenchanted with what the U.S. is doing,'' she said.

Many in the crowd wore a black and white covering on their shoulders or heads to symbolize the Palestinian struggle, and others carried banners. Not all, of course, agreed.

Patricia Brickman of San Jose, one of the dozen who had gathered for the counterprotest, said she was there to support the United States and the its troops.

``It's really sad,'' she said, ``that they don't have a concept of what America stands for -- freedom.''

23 posted on 04/21/2002 10:41:51 PM PDT by American Preservative
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Good job facing the enemy!
24 posted on 04/21/2002 10:45:16 PM PDT by thunderdome
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Wish I could have been there, pal. You done us proud. Yahoo! Brave Freeper soldiers! For victory & freedom!!!
25 posted on 04/21/2002 11:16:28 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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To: CounterCounterCulture
ahhhh, i can see my home town hasn't changed much.
i don't miss the rats nest!
26 posted on 04/21/2002 11:19:09 PM PDT by rockfish59
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To: CounterCounterCulture; Drango; mac_truck; deeel-me-in; Syncro; Rogue Yam; thunderdome; Valin...
My comment - Yesterday 12 patriotic Americans had our freedom of speech of standing up for our country ~America~ (and for Israel) silenced (in a sense) because thousands of Leftist basturds could not tolerate us and our point of view here in America and only wanted their point of view heard and surged towards us...so the police suggested we withdraw.

I guess "peace" and "free speech" don't mean what they used.

IMO, AMERICA better WAKE UP...or non-Muslims in America may be "submitting" (Islam means "submission") to Mecca in the future.

Here are some pictures from www.sf.indymedia.org

Note: Slow loading. Need to scroll across - the pictures are large.
Note the second picture - The new "Streets of San Francisco" - coming to a city near you (?!)

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To all the FReepers and FRiends who made the effort to stand for America (and Israel) against the "peace-lovin'"
HATE-FILLED [fill in the blank] who "occupied" the San Francisco Civic Center, THANK YOU! : )
It was an honor to FReep with you. We tried!

Again, CCC, excellent report! Dr. Zoo....faaaabUlooooous! : )

27 posted on 04/21/2002 11:37:49 PM PDT by American Preservative
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To: *San FRancisco; Cool Guy; jrherreid; GodBlessAmerica; CounterCounterCulture; .38sw; 2Fro...
FReeping report-ping.

The new Streets of San Francisco?!

Wake up America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

28 posted on 04/21/2002 11:44:16 PM PDT by American Preservative
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Thanks Triple-C...grate report!

One of the saddest thing to see there was chubby young boys with an icecream in one hand and a sign which they probably didn't even understand in the other.

And these girls:

If only these brainwashed teenage girls knew that if they were in a Middle Eastern country they could be shot for appearing in public like this. They are using the right of freedom in this country to destroy those same rights.

The reporter from channel 2 was interviewing the Police Commander and I listened in.She asked if there were any arrests, and the Commander said yes there were several, but were just detainments for trespassing at City Hall.
She asked if it was worth it to report them , and he said no. I suggested that she report that several terrorist supporters were arrested and the Commander kinda swore under his breath...LOL

Shortly before the large group of terrorist/supporting marchers showed up and just after I was using the bullhorn to explain to the crowd across the street just where their "Palistinian" state was, a reporter from Channel 14 (Spanish TV) interviewed me for about 3 minutes.
Afterwards I wondered who would hear this and understand it translated into Spanish...then it dawned on me that about a third of the people in California are from Mexico.

29 posted on 04/21/2002 11:45:31 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: CounterCounterCulture;American Preservative;deeel-me-in;Drango;mac_truck;Rogue Yam;Syncro
Thank You
God Bless You All
30 posted on 04/21/2002 11:46:14 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: American Preservative
That is neat that quote from Pat (post # 23)got into the paper.
31 posted on 04/21/2002 11:49:21 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: American Preservative
"Yesterday 12 patriotic Americans had our freedom of speech of standing up for our country ~America~ (and for Israel) silenced (in a sense) because thousands of Leftists..."

That is a sad commentary...when the police are outnumbered, they cannot stand up for the Constutional rights of Patriots, but protect the rights of those whose actions are geared towards destroying America and all it stands for.

32 posted on 04/21/2002 11:53:52 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: Syncro
:-)

Thank you, left coasters.

33 posted on 04/21/2002 11:57:51 PM PDT by LurkerNoMore!
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To: All
The new "Streets of San Francisco?"

("Muslim men at prayer" Posted by kevin on www.sf.indymedia.org on 4/20/02)

34 posted on 04/22/2002 12:02:55 AM PDT by American Preservative
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To: CounterCounterCulture
JUST A NOTE OF THANKS FOR THE GREAT PICTURES! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK sf!
35 posted on 04/22/2002 12:17:38 AM PDT by abigail2
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To: CounterCounterCulture
EXCELLENT pictures and report, CCC. You brave people make me proud!
36 posted on 04/22/2002 12:32:04 AM PDT by Humidston
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To: Syncro; Drango; kristinn; DaveDilegge; Dan from Michigan; Yehuda; mtngrl@vrwc
Yep. And if you've heard the reports from the other FReeps across our country, it is sad.

Let's see - how many incidences have there been? Marines murdered in Lebanon, WTC in '93, Somalia; Saudi Arabia(?), USS Cole-Yemen, New York, The Pentagon, Flight 93, and in September 2001 (after the New York, Pentagon, and Flight 93 massacres) President Bush told us to be kind and be respectful of all Muslims/Arabs in our country. O.K. Fine, Mr. President. Even though there were very few voices (there were a few, weren't there?) in the American Muslim/Arab community who condemned the massacres against our fellow citizens (and other countries' citizens, too), the majority of US said OK, we'll follow what the president is asking. And, the country had a sense of unitedness. The Left saw an opportunity - Stop the War. Stop "racism" against Arabs/Muslims - when America went to Afghanistan to seek justice. They started to "rally" in the streets. And very few pro-Americans went out to counter them. Well, as one who did go to a few FReeps to stand up for our side, I've noticed some things - they started small (remember Hitler started small) and the PLOers (imo) were a few and among the group. As time has gone on, (7 months!) the country has become divided, the PLOers have moved from the middle of the "protests" to being at the forefront and the "protest" pictures of belligerent, frenzied, ranting you used to see in foreign countries are now here on our shores and not even across the street, but at the door (as the pictures at City Hall showed). And their numbers have now grown so huge, that they feel they don't have to show us the same courtesy of holding a peaceful, law-abiding demonstration and let an opposing voice be heard, and the police are overwhelmed and can't help guarantee or safeguard OUR rights. (And, around the corner other Americans were taking for granted their freedom to go for a sunny Sunday drive with their families, unaware that a block away from them were THOUSANDS of a ranting, hate-filled, jealous, envious mob who would love to see an end to the American way of life.) So, where this is leading.....

So, that's my opinion. : ( If anyone has any suggestions of what to do.....

G*d bless America and Israel and both countries' soldiers and G*d help us.

37 posted on 04/22/2002 1:41:07 AM PDT by American Preservative
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BTTT for being out there. You guys did great and we are very proud! Slowly but surely we are making a difference. AGain, thanks and adding this thread to the Rally4America.org Rally Account page.
38 posted on 04/22/2002 2:07:16 AM PDT by VaMarVet
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BTT To the left-coast action!!!! Way to go!!!!!!!
39 posted on 04/22/2002 2:23:31 AM PDT by Neets
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Puttin' your life in danger is a rush, ain't it?

Kudos!

41 posted on 04/22/2002 5:00:03 AM PDT by BufordP
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To: CounterCounterCulture; American Preservative; CounterCounterCulture; deeel-me-in; Drango...
Glad to see y'all out on the left-coast, continuing to show how most Americans feel about our great country and those who protect it.


42 posted on 04/22/2002 6:00:08 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry
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To: Angelwood; sauropod; tgslTakoma; Doctor Raoul; Clinton's a liar
BUMP to some more of our D.C. heroes.
43 posted on 04/22/2002 6:29:51 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: American Preservative
Where is America in this invasion? Channel 2/Fox reported with a pali-sympathetic tone last night. It's like all that my grandfather and his peers worked and died for in WW2 is gone.
44 posted on 04/22/2002 6:50:00 AM PDT by thunderdome
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Great job in the face of so much hatred. The police always work out an exit route to safety and I'm glad you were able to make your point and then use it to retreat. The sorry state of our media is that no one cares or will point out that your 1st Amendment rights to freedom of speech and assembly were trampled while those of the leftist pro-Palestinians (many of whom may not even be citizens) were allowed free reign.

Again, thanks to all who braved the San Francisco counterprotest. FReep On!

45 posted on 04/22/2002 7:45:28 AM PDT by Angelwood
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To: American Preservative
Anybody have a guess how many of these people are here on h1-B or student visas?
46 posted on 04/22/2002 7:54:55 AM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: American Preservative
Who paid for all the buses? Where did the money come from?
47 posted on 04/22/2002 7:58:57 AM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: American Preservative
I've e-mailed Melanie Morgan...not enough time to get on the air and who's listening at 5am in the morning anyway? ;-)
48 posted on 04/22/2002 8:12:23 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture;American Preservative;deeel-me-in;Drango;mac_truck;Rogue Yam
CounterCounterCulture and Syncro at the same protest! Oh my gosh! That alone would have been worth the drive from Fresno to attend!

It's wonderful to read about and see pictures of you all representing the right side at this event on Saturday. It's one thing to do this in relatively conservative Fresno, but another thing altogether to do it in San Francisco. I am proud of all of you!

49 posted on 04/22/2002 8:41:42 AM PDT by mtngrl@vrwc
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Oops! Reply #49 should have been directed to you too!
50 posted on 04/22/2002 8:50:57 AM PDT by mtngrl@vrwc
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