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North Cook County Conservatives Meet to Discuss Gun Laws (my title)
NCCC | 4/27/02 | Geoff Lowe

Posted on 04/29/2002 6:14:32 AM PDT by TheRightGuy

Subject: NCCC Meeting May 1

The Northern Cook County Conservation Coalition (formerly the ISRA
Northern Cook County Grassroots organization) will hold it's monthly
meeting on May1, 2002.

Our guest speaker will be Claudia Levin, who with her husband owns
and manages Maxon's Shooting Sports in Des Plaines. Claudia gave an
excellent presentation at the recent City Council meeting in Des
Plaines, resulting in a 7 to 1 vote against a Daley-sponsored gun
grab ordinance. Claudia will talk to us about the trials and
tribulations of being a responsible gun shop owner in Cook County,
talk about what goes into running a gun shop, and answer any
questions we may have. This will be a good meeting, so tell your
friends.

We'll be starting at 7PM Wednesday, May 1st at the Republican offices
at 4135 West Main Street, Skokie.
See you all there.

Geoff Lowe
Chairman


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Announcements; Constitution/Conservatism; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: banglist
I just had this email forwarded to me by Jerry, the NRA activist, who joined us at the Des Plaines FReep two weeks ago. I am planning to attend. Are any other Chicagoland FReepers interested?
1 posted on 04/29/2002 6:14:32 AM PDT by TheRightGuy
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To: bang_list
BANG! BUMP
2 posted on 04/29/2002 6:15:38 AM PDT by TheRightGuy
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To: Redwing9;ChicagoFarmer;lazamataz;Technochick99;Spintreebob;mini-14
Anyone interested?
3 posted on 04/29/2002 6:18:18 AM PDT by TheRightGuy
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To: sjackson;spydertim;pistias;chicagolady;a.j.armitage
Anyone interested?
4 posted on 04/29/2002 6:29:27 AM PDT by TheRightGuy
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To: TheRightGuy
Negative--finals don't permit. Shame, too. Sounds like a good time.
5 posted on 04/29/2002 8:04:42 AM PDT by Pistias
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To: lazamataz;technochick99;all
More bad news from the ISRA ....

CHICAGO POLICE OFFICERS WARNED ABOUT POSSIBLE GUN SWEEPS
CONTACT: Richard Pearson, Illinois State Rifle Association, (815) 635-3198

CHICAGO - April 29, 2002 - - The following was released today by the
Illinois State Rifle Association (ISRA):

The ISRA is warning employees of the Chicago Police Department (CPD) that
the department's Chicago Anti Gun Enforcement (CAGE) unit may soon swoop
down on their homes.

The warning comes after the release of CPD Notice 02-18, which directs CPD
employees to dispose of many of their personally owned firearms by May 1,
2002 or face the consequences.

Firearms subject to the disposal order include a previously published list
of so-called "assault weapons" as well as many of the rifles typically used
to hunt deer and other game in the state.

Issuance of CPD Notice 02-18 comes in the midst of a stepped-up effort by
Chicago Mayor Richard Daley to impose his personal gun control plan on a
statewide basis. Earlier this year, Daley blasted the Illinois General
Assembly for twice rejecting his extremist gun control package - pledging to
sidestep the legislature by using his local political muscle to institute
the package in one village at a time. Daley's first attempt at doing so
failed miserably on April 15th when the Des Plaines (IL) City Council
rejected a gun control ordinance introduced by Daley ally Alderman Don Smith
by a 7-1 margin.

The approaching May 1 gun disposal deadline is especially ominous in light
of questionable tactics being employed by the CAGE unit. The unit was
formed specifically to support Mayor Daley's efforts to run suburban gun
shops out of business and to create an illegal registration database of
law-abiding Illinois gun owners.

After several months of keeping tabs on the CAGE unit, the ISRA has come
into information on tactics that should send a shiver down the spine of any
freedom-loving American. Among such tactics are attempts to entrap gun shop
clerks into making illegal gun sales; inspecting and copying gun shop sales
records for households where more than one person holds an Illinois FOID
card and; visiting the homes of law-abiding gun owners and demanding to
inventory their firearm collections without benefit of a court order.

In light of the disposal order, Chicago police officers should be especially
concerned about the CAGE unit's tactics. The ISRA is aware of the case of a
Cook County Sheriff's officer who was questioned by the CAGE unit about a
used gun he legally transferred to a gun shop more than ten years ago.
Although the officer made every attempt to comply with the CAGE unit's
inquiry, the investigations team threatened the officer with the loss of his
job and pension. Despite having complied fully with the CAGE team, he found
himself on suspension.

The ISRA suspects strongly that the CAGE unit has been gathering information
on the gun buying habits of fellow CPD officers and that, after May 1,
officers who may have owned any of the firearms on the disposal list should
expect to undergo questioning by the CAGE unit.

"My advice to any CPD officer who has ever owned a gun on the disposal list
is to get a lawyer - a good one," commented ISRA president Richard Pearson.
"You may show up for roll call later this week just to find yourself on
indefinite suspension. Or, you may get a frantic phone call from your wife
or kids telling you that there are a half dozen big burly guys wanting to
come in and look at your gun collection. In any case, Mayor Daley plans to
make you pay for not sharing his views on gun control. I wish you luck,
you're going to need it."

6 posted on 04/29/2002 8:05:51 AM PDT by TheRightGuy
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To: Pistias
Negative--finals don't permit.

Is that your final answer?

7 posted on 04/29/2002 8:08:20 AM PDT by TheRightGuy
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To: TheRightGuy
Hang on for a tick: Daley is sending CAGE against members of the Chicago Police Department?

This man is either very, very stupid, or he is so powerful he has NOTHING to fear from ANYone.

8 posted on 04/29/2002 8:15:30 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Lazamataz
Daley is sending CAGE against members of the Chicago Police Department?

That's what ISRA says, he wants their personal stash.

9 posted on 04/29/2002 8:18:17 AM PDT by TheRightGuy
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To: TheRightGuy
Oy.
10 posted on 04/29/2002 9:00:26 AM PDT by Pistias
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To: TheRightGuy
Rathern than "bad" news, I think this is "good" news. Let the different divisions of police units split themselves into two factions. Daley's faction, and the anti-Daley faction.
11 posted on 04/29/2002 11:02:57 AM PDT by Mini-14
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To: Mini-14
Daley's faction, and the anti-Daley faction.

Perhaps they could have a shoot-off? ;^)

13 posted on 04/29/2002 11:12:53 AM PDT by TheRightGuy
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To: Lazamataz
. . . or he is so powerful he has NOTHING to fear from ANYone.

THAT is why I only refer to him as King Richie II.

14 posted on 04/29/2002 3:15:18 PM PDT by Mr_Magoo
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To: Lazamataz
I, Terry G. Hillard, Superintendent of Police of the Chicago Police 
Department, hereby promulgate the following regulations pursuant to 
Section 8-20-030(h)(3) of the Municipal Code of Chicago: 

Section 1.(a) In addition to the weapons defined as assault weapons in 
Section 8-20-030 of the Municipal Code of Chicago, the following weapons 
are defined as assault weapons because the design or operation of the 
weapons is inappropriate for lawful use: 

i. any of the firearms, or types, replicas, or duplicates in any caliber 
of the firearms known as: 

(1) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (all 
models); 

(2) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil; 

(3) Beretta AR-70 (SC-70); 

(4) Colt AR-15; 

(5) Fabrique Nationale FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC; 

(6) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12; 

(7) Steyr AUG; 

(8) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9, and TEC-22; and 

(9) any shotgun which contains its ammunition in a revolving cylinder, 
such as (but not limited to) the Street Sweeper and Striker 12; 

(10) any firearm having a caliber of .50 or greater; 

ii. a semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable 
magazine and has [one or more of the following]: 

(1) a folding or telescoping stock; 

(2) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the 
weapon; 

(3) a bayonet mount; 

(4) a flash suppressor or barrel having a threaded muzzle; or 

(5) a grenade launcher; 

iii. a semi-automatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable 
magazine and has [one or more of the following]: 

(1) an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the 
pistol grip; 

(2) a barrel having a threaded muzzle; 

(3) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles 
the barrel, and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the 
non-trigger hand without being burned; 

(4) a manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the pistol is 
unloaded; and 

(5) a semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm; 

iv. a semiautomatic shotgun that has [one or more of the following]: 

(1) a folding or telescoping stock; 

(2) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the 
weapon; 

(3) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of five rounds; or 

(4) an ability to accept a detachable magazine. 

(b) Except as otherwise may be required by Section 8-20-030 of the 
Municipal Code of Chicago, "assault weapon" does not include: 

i. any firearm that; 

(1) is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever or slide action; 

(2) has been made permanently inoperable; or 

ii. any semiautomatic rifle that cannot accept a detachable magazine 
that holds more than five rounds of ammunition; or 

iii. any semiautomatic shotgun that cannot hold more than five rounds of 
ammunition in a fixed or detachable magazine. 

Section 2. These regulations take effect May 01, 2002. 

Promulgated This 18 day of March, 2002 
Terry G. Hillard 
Superintendent of Police 

15 posted on 04/29/2002 5:17:55 PM PDT by Mr_Magoo
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To: Mr_Magoo
link
16 posted on 04/29/2002 5:20:39 PM PDT by Mr_Magoo
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To: TheRightGuy
Thanks for the bump.

Will not be able to make it...

17 posted on 04/29/2002 8:01:26 PM PDT by RedWing9
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To: Mr_Magoo

Do you suppose this would qualify?

18 posted on 04/30/2002 6:11:20 AM PDT by TheRightGuy
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To: Mr_Magoo
a semi-automatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has [one or more of the following]:

(1) an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip;

So all 9MM pistols... Looks like it only misses revolvers.

19 posted on 04/30/2002 7:17:33 AM PDT by RedWing9
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To: Mr_Magoo
(10) any firearm having a caliber of .50 or greater;
(4) a manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded

Good to see they’re finally banning blackpowder weapons as well as single shot TC Contenders and Encores in all calibers.

I feel safer already.

20 posted on 04/30/2002 9:18:00 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: RedWing9
Not all. Those that the mag. slides into the grip are "allowed". Only the ones that the mag. mounts in front of the trigger assembly are now banned.
21 posted on 04/30/2002 9:30:15 AM PDT by Mr_Magoo
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To: Mr_Magoo
(10) any firearm having a caliber of .50 or greater;

I thought that any firearm with a cartridge of .50 or greater caliber was classified as a destructive device, which is a BAFT no-no. Specifically, I remember one of the BAFT charges against the Branch Davidians was that they had a Boys British anti-tank rifle, which exceeded the caliber of the legal 50 BMG, and was an unlicensed destructive device.

It is a shame that people get so hungup on firearms as evil creatures with lives of their own, that they don't view them as just chunks of metal and hold those that use, or abuse them responsible for their own actions. Oh course to be a good democrat, one must believe in victimhood. It was the gun that caused the crime, not the criminal.

22 posted on 04/30/2002 11:25:17 AM PDT by Robert357
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To: Robert357
Let me rephrase my above comment. Metal cartridge Caliber in excess of .50 is considered destructive devise, such as say a a .55 Cal Boys Anti-tank rifle. A 50 BMG chambered bolt action or semi-automatic firearm is ok to own (in most states at the moment).
23 posted on 04/30/2002 5:12:53 PM PDT by Robert357
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To: Mr_Magoo
Not all. Those that the mag. slides into the grip are "allowed".

I disagree...

a semi-automatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine

A glock has a detachable magazine and would therefore be illegal. The use of the word 'and' in the sentence also disallows those with detachable magazines outside of the pistol grip. Nowhere is it stated that pistols that have magazines in the pistol grip are "ok".

24 posted on 05/01/2002 6:36:51 AM PDT by RedWing9
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