Posted on 05/20/2002 9:54:04 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
You are gagging on a gnat and swallowing a camel.
Let's use an example: My son was attacked by two students. The normal punishment is suspension but they couldn't suspend the children because the parents refused the suspension because they worked. They tried to take away their recess but the teachers didn't have anyone to watch them in the classroom. So they told the kids not to do it again and told my son to stay away from the kids. They attacked another student. Same treatment. The school has no real way of punishing kids. If you know any good methods, they would love to hear it.
Private education would make this a mute point. Each parent gets to make the choice of how their children are educated in a free society.
I choose to have other things happen which do not involve physical touching on my children. You are free to choose otherwise.
Perhaps you would like a system which would allow parents in government schools the ability to formally cede their parental rights to physical punishment to government employees on a person by person basis. Merely speculation.
You are gagging on a gnat and swallowing a camel.
I have no idea what this phrase means.
This is called assault.
If you know any good methods, they would love to hear it.
It should be refered to the police for criminal action.
All I know is that yes, I have spanked my progeny with my hand and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. When I was in public school until the great busing pograms began in 1970, corporal punishment was swift and sure and the schools were better for it. Nowadays, public school teachers I know lament the lack of control in the classroom and of course have no discipline but detention and suspension. Private schools I attended had serious corporal punishment and there was no exception unless in a wheelchair or something of that nature or being a girl.
The boys run rough-shod on them... and the teachers at school.
The parents should be the one to met out punishment, not the schools.
If the child is warned to be quiet and behave... and does not, he/she should be removed from school.
2 bad kids left to disrupt a class will stop the learning process for all.
It's a no-brainer and had worked for over 100 years... prior to the last 20.
We don't agree on what things are big and what things are small it seems. I think you have it precisely backwards.
My children's rights to be secure in their person and my rights to raise my children without other people physically assaulting them are big things IMO.
You already said they turned around and did it to another student yet you are saying it is not a safety issue?
Neither do I. So I can surmise that you also think that I should cede to some government employee the right to HIT MY KINDERGARTENER? That is what this is all about, the right to hit 5 yr olds? They used to make us wear dunce caps and sit behind the piano.
"Okay so I don't have kids of my own"
Okay another ditzy dame...
I don't got no anklebiters either but I know what a hellraiser I was when I was young enough to hold down, and I for damn sure deserved every a$$-whack I got. Any kid o' mine is going to get the almighty devil beaten outta him when occasion dictates. That's the only way most kids learn.
Every anti-spanker I've met seems to have one of the following rationales:
1. History of abuse in immediate family.
2. Some liberal hoity-toity white-linen idea that inflicting pain to get your point across is uncouth, violent and primitive.
3. "Spanking??! What kind of kinky b@st@rd ARE you! [SMACK]" ;)
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