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Catholic Bishop Lynch: Confusing The Bank Account For Loaves And Fishes
The Tampa Tribune ^ | May 24, 2002 | Daniel Ruth

Posted on 05/24/2002 5:40:19 AM PDT by Rum Tum Tugger

May 24, 2002

``Hey, if I could get that kind of deal, I'd wear a Speedo for the bishop,'' cogently observed one wag at the end of the bar.

Unfortunately for the aforementioned wag, a building contractor himself, given the fact he was, shall we say, at a certain age in life and somewhat physique-challenged, the Speedo gambit quite likely would not have had the desired marketing effect on his business.

Much has been made of the revelations Bishop Robert Lynch has funneled more than $30.3 million worth of construction business toward a company owned by his pal David Herman, 40, the past few years, which in and of itself is no big deal until you realize the builder is receiving a 10 percent commission on no-bid diocese projects, considerably higher than the customary 3 percent profit common in the industry.

Normally even that sort of largess given to a vendor would be nobody's business, if say private sector Corporation A wanted to pay a 10 percent commission on a construction project undertaken by Builder B.

Devil May Care

But this is the Diocese of St. Petersburg, an institution largely dependent on the goodwill and charity of parishioners who are asked every Sunday to give generously to their church.

And in light of a diocesan payoff to former Lynch public relations flack Bill Urbanski, who received a $100,000 settlement in the wake of sexual harassment accusations against the bishop, his eminence's devil-may-care attitude toward inflated building costs funded by parishioner donations may give rise to a new beatitude: ``Blessed are Bob's traveling companions, for they may inherit the checkbook.''

A $100,000 payoff to a former church employee is one thing. But millions of dollars in no-bid construction contracts may smack of charity run amok, hardly due financial diligence.

Herman, a triathlete like Urbanski, has accompanied Lynch on his numerous trips to San Francisco, Key West, Bermuda, Israel and Rome.

According to Urbanski, Lynch often asked Urbanski whether he thought Herman was an Adonis. Croesus seems more like it. Besides, the guy is a triathlete. What do you expect him to look like? Sgt. Bilko?

Double Standards

In any event, if you had a sweetheart gig with the diocese that had brought $30 million into your company, if Lynch wanted you to take a trip with him to Buffalo - in January - what would you do?

Buy gloves.

No one has disputed that Herman's construction company has delivered quality work. Goof grief, for that much money, it better.

Rather, the broader issue is Lynch's stewardship of church funds to award a close friend lucrative no-bid construction deals, a policy in direct conflict with individual parish construction projects to solicit several proposals from vendors before work begins.

If a parish pastor has to consult with a church council made up of laymen with experience in the business world regarding important financial decisions, why should the bishop, who controls tens of millions of dollars, not be held to the same standard?

As we've learned from recent stories regarding everything from sexual abuse in the church to Lynch's own travails, once you get your own staff and miter you're pretty well accountable to no one within the hierarchy of the institution.

Even that was probably just fine with most of the faithful until disclosures began to erupt and folks began to learn that when it comes to abusing children, the power structure can't figure what the policy ought to be.

And when it comes to money, at least this bishop views the church bank account as an extension of the loaves and the fishes.

At the moment Bishop Warbucks is in the midst of a massive campaign to raise $60 million to fund a host of construction projects, pulling in about $21 million so far.

With $40 million to go, local Catholics have every right to ask Bishop Trump how much of the money is (or will be) earmarked for Herman's company, and if he expects his flock to help support his dinner and traveling companion without soliciting bids from other firms.

A little confession on this question is certainly good for the soul.

It would be even better for the bottom line.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bishop; bishoplynch; catholic; diocese; lynch; scandal
Bishop Lynch's problems seem to grow daily. Are there any Bishops in the Catholic Church who can be trusted or who aren't arrogant old fools? Please show me some. I haven't found them.
1 posted on 05/24/2002 5:40:20 AM PDT by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: Rum Tum Tugger
Bishop Lynch has been accused of sexually harrassing a male employee. He paid the employee almost $150,000 of Diocesan funds to keep silent, but it all hit the fan in March.

David Herman is a very good looking guy who moved with Lynch from the east coast of Florida to St. Petersburg when Lynch became Bishop.

Lynch likes to take Herman on trips to Key West and San Francisco. Need I say more?

2 posted on 05/24/2002 5:44:47 AM PDT by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: Rum Tum Tugger
Or perverts. According to Urbanski, Lynch often asked Urbanski whether he thought Herman was an AdonisMen don't ask such questions. "Cooter, do you think Big'un over thar is an Adonis? Huh, do ye?"
3 posted on 05/24/2002 5:44:48 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Rum Tum Tugger
I can name two - that I know personally - Bishop Baker of Charleston and Bishop Dorsey of Orlando.
4 posted on 05/24/2002 5:45:02 AM PDT by csistrueblue
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To: Rum Tum Tugger, dead
Rum, do you think dead's is an Adonis?
5 posted on 05/24/2002 5:46:13 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Rum Tum Tugger
This year's BAPA has seen pledges of less than 50% of Lynch's goal. Weekly collections at my parish and others are running about 30% lower than normal.
6 posted on 05/24/2002 5:46:48 AM PDT by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: AppyPappy
Rum, do you think dead's is an Adonis?

Bishop Lynch probably does. :-)

7 posted on 05/24/2002 5:48:36 AM PDT by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: csistrueblue
Thanks. I'll check them out.

It's good to know that the Bishop of Orlando is a good man. I knew Bishop Grady before I was a Catholic, and he seemed to be a standup guy too.

8 posted on 05/24/2002 5:50:25 AM PDT by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: Rum Tum Tugger
Lynch has said that if the people in his Diocese lose confidence in him, he will resign. Fat chance!
9 posted on 05/24/2002 5:52:02 AM PDT by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: Rum Tum Tugger
Last Monday night the Pastor of Christ The King Church in Tampa held a townhall meeting. I understand that it got fairly rowdy.

The first story about Herman had been in Sunday's Tampa Tribune.

The attendees decided to take a vote regarding whether Lynch should resign. A show of hands was reported to be overwhelmingly in favor of his resignation.

I doubt that there will be any more townhall meetings in the Diocese of St. Petersburg.

10 posted on 05/24/2002 5:55:13 AM PDT by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: Rum Tum Tugger
Good for Christ the King - I applaud their "spunk"!
11 posted on 05/24/2002 6:00:45 AM PDT by csistrueblue
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To: csistrueblue
I applaud their "spunk"!

The Bishops hate "spunk"! (stealing from Lou Grant)

Unfortunately, while most Catholics reportedly are disturbed by the state of the Catholic Church, most Catholics haven't yet developed spunk.

12 posted on 05/24/2002 6:05:14 AM PDT by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: Rum Tum Tugger
Click on this link to see, finally, a right response to the Bishop's managerial style. THIS should be posted in every Church in America

Bishop's Duties

13 posted on 05/24/2002 6:11:29 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: Catholicguy
excellent - I will share this with others - chris
14 posted on 05/24/2002 6:15:01 AM PDT by csistrueblue
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To: Catholicguy
I'm going to forward that to the Bishop's Communications Director. Thanks.
15 posted on 05/24/2002 6:17:09 AM PDT by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: Rum Tum Tugger
Are there any Bishops in the Catholic Church who can be trusted or who aren't arrogant old fools? Please show me some. I haven't found them.

Unfortuntely the majority are the same as that other group of arrogant corrupt power hungry types- POLITICIANS
16 posted on 05/24/2002 6:17:34 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: Rum Tum Tugger
Unfortunately, while most Catholics reportedly are disturbed by the state of the Catholic Church, most Catholics haven't yet developed spunk.

They are in a bind as long as the bishops and the church control and have civil ownership of the schools they send their kids to.
Only alternative is the worthless public schools
The parishoners have to find a way to gain ownership and control of the schools

This is the MAIN PROBLEM
17 posted on 05/24/2002 6:21:35 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: uncbob
Only alternative is the worthless public schools Wrong - we are orthodox Catholics and we homeschool - about 40 homeschool catholic families here in the upstate of South Carolina!
18 posted on 05/24/2002 6:25:22 AM PDT by csistrueblue
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To: uncbob
They are in a bind as long as the bishops and the church control and have civil ownership of the schools they send their kids to.

That's a concern of mine. I'm moving my girls from an excellent private school to a Catholic school for the next school year. As I see the contributions to the Church declining, I am concerned about the effect that will have on Catholic schools. I know that funding for schools will be the first thing the vindictive Bishops cut. Those trips to San Francisco and Key West cost a lot.

19 posted on 05/24/2002 6:32:45 AM PDT by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: Rum Tum Tugger

Bishop Robert Lynch
20 posted on 05/24/2002 6:37:20 AM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: Rum Tum Tugger
my own remark:

What we have here is a failure to excommunicate!

21 posted on 05/24/2002 6:40:35 AM PDT by gortklattu
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To: csistrueblue
Wrong - we are orthodox Catholics and we homeschool - about 40 homeschool catholic families here in the upstate of South Carolina!

Well I quess the other 200,000 kids are SOL
22 posted on 05/24/2002 6:41:36 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: uncbob
No - the comment is registered so that Parents know that - they have more than two alternatives! Besides there are many Catholic Schools - that are not Catholic! My homeschool - is very Catholic - and my wife and I take seriously our responsibility to "raise a child in the way he should go" .
23 posted on 05/24/2002 6:44:41 AM PDT by csistrueblue
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To: gortklattu
absolutely hilarious - I will plagiarize your comment!
24 posted on 05/24/2002 6:45:27 AM PDT by csistrueblue
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To: Rum Tum Tugger
Informal vote chides bishop

The new Bill, the old Bill

25 posted on 05/24/2002 6:45:27 AM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: Rum Tum Tugger
Lynch Defends Decision On No-Bid Contracts To Friend

Bishop Lynch's Letter to Contributors

26 posted on 05/24/2002 6:56:00 AM PDT by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: Catholicguy
When was the last time any prelate admitted a blunder, sin, mistake, act of irrationality, unless it had already been discovered and publicly held against him and the admission was simply a face-saving ploy?

This, from your article, is the heart of the matter.

Arrogance is as unattractive in a cleric as it is in a politician, even more so.

These goofy apologies issued by presidents and popes for "sins" hundreds of years old are embarrassing.

27 posted on 05/24/2002 7:05:07 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: AppyPappy
Funny you should mention me. I'm sitting at work in my Speedo, getting ready for Memorial Day Weekend at my local Bishop's beach house.
28 posted on 05/24/2002 7:38:06 AM PDT by dead
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
Nice tan.
29 posted on 05/24/2002 7:56:24 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
These goofy apologies issued by presidents and popes for "sins" hundreds of years old are embarrassing.

Agreed. I don't have it with me right now, but the Apostolic Administrator who is warming the Cathedra in Palm Beach Diocese of Florida until the Pope selects a new Bishop sent all of us a letter about the recent crisis. As many know, our last two Bishops were homosexual perverts who each were guilty of multiple molestations. The Very Rev Seamus Murtagh, the Ap. Admin. said in his letter that among many things being done to address the problem one is that priests are getting together to talk about their feelings.

Yep, that is just the response this crisis needs. Seminars about "abuse" delivered by Shrinks and conclaves of priests "sharing" their feelings.

I wish I had the letter with me so I could type out one particular paragraph. Everyone I have spoken with thinks that paragraph is insane.

I expect very little from our Bishops. They really do seem - so does the Pope, unfortunately - to think this situation can be "managed" with "norms" and procedures. Good Lord...

30 posted on 05/24/2002 8:46:57 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: Rum Tum Tugger

Riches of the Kingdom



Published: Apr 21, 2002

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TAMPA - A Nikon camera, a Bose radio, Nordstrom designer shirts, shoes, watches, sportswear: Bill Urbanski says Bishop Robert Lynch showered him with personal gifts during their unusual 4 1/2-year relationship.

``I looked at my wife once and said, `What am I wearing that the bishop didn't buy me?' '' Urbanski recalls today.

Lynch's lavish spending on the bishop's former spokesman and near-constant companion knew few limits, Urbanski says. As they drove from a parish north of Tampa one day, the bishop's wallet opened again.

``I was like, `I really wish I had a CD player in my car,' '' Urbanski says. ``Boom! We were in Circuit City, and he said, `I've wanted to buy you something. Pick it out.' ''

They ate lunch in top restaurants almost daily, dined in Tampa's best steakhouses and stayed in fine hotels on business trips - with the bishop always paying.

``The meals we'd eat, I've never eaten like that,'' Urbanski says. ``Appetizers, desserts, it was `Katy, bar the door.' ''

But the steepest tab from their friendship was a $100,000 severance that Urbanski, 42, collected from the Catholic Diocese of St. Petersburg last year after privately accusing the 60-year-old bishop of sexual harassment.

That money came from parishioners, bequeaths, investments and unrestricted accounts, says diocesan lawyer Joe DiVito.

``No parish was assessed any additional money,'' he says. ``No funds earmarked for the ministry were used.''

Compared with the estimated $1 billion experts say the church's growing pedophilia scandal has cost in settlements nationwide, the St. Petersburg case is small potatoes.

But it illustrates bishops' unlimited discretion in spending church money. Critics say it also shows how an avalanche of sex-related damage claims against Catholic clergy is draining the pockets of unsuspecting flocks.

``All the money comes from the pews,'' says Stephen Brady, head of Roman Catholic Faithful, an Illinois-based national watchdog group.

The Bay area's more than 372,000 Catholics, who ultimately paid to make the bishop's sexual harassment case disappear last year, knew nothing about the accusation or the payment until it was reported last month by The Tampa Tribune.

Lynch declined to say where the money for the gifts came from or whether the diocese has any policy governing such spending. But he confirmed he was ``generous'' to Urbanski in a statement issued through his new spokeswoman, Mary Jo Murphy.

``Bishop Lynch is a very generous man,'' the statement says. ``The gifts ... were ... between two friends on birthdays and special occasions throughout the year, as normally occurs between two friends. Some of these gifts were meant for the entire family. He is very close friends with the entire family and has also given gifts to Bill's wife and his children.

``As a matter of fact, he baptized both of their children. Bishop Lynch is also generous with his gift of time and spiritual counsel with all of his friends.''

Diocese Worth Millions

Generosity aside, bishops control a fortune in buildings and budgets within each of the nation's 194 dioceses.

Public records show Lynch's diocese owns real estate valued at more than $250 million spread over 73 parishes, 27 charitable institutions, 12 early childhood centers, 41 schools and two ``Spirit FM'' radio stations, 100,000-watt WBVM-FM, 90.5, and WLMS-FM, 88.3.

The diocese also funds campus ministries at Eckerd College, the University of Tampa, the University of South Florida and Saint Leo University, a Catholic liberal arts college north of Tampa where Lynch is a trustee emeritus.

The diocese will not discuss how much more it owns in stocks, bonds and other financial assets, nor will it say who controls diocesan spending.

Murphy says its money ``is strictly supervised'' by a finance council of laypeople ``knowledgeable in business and accounting'' and audited yearly by an outside accounting firm.

Auditing spending is not the same as controlling it, however, and Murphy would not discuss who has that authority in the St. Petersburg diocese. She said only: ``The business operations of the Catholic Diocese of St. Petersburg follow the normal policies of most large corporations.''

But Fortune 500 companies routinely disclose in their annual reports income, expenses and what their executives earn. Most dioceses do not.

Experts say diocesan spending is controlled by the bishops - that they collect and spend with little or no financial training or Rome-mandated accounting or auditing. They don't even answer to the pope about money, according to Vatican City Cardinal Edmund Szoka, Pope John Paul II's top financial overseer.

U.S. parishes rake in an estimated $7.5 billion annually, experts say, although donations nationally are falling and major deficits plague some major dioceses, including Boston, New York and Chicago.

No figures are published on parish collections in Lynch's diocese. But a separate drive by Lynch this year seeks $8.5 million from local Catholics for the Bishop's Annual Pastoral Appeal, which raises money for diocesan schools, charities and ministries.

A previous drive in 2000 saw more than 26,500 donors give $4.2 million. Gifts averaged $167 per individual, up from $149 in 1999.

It's unclear whether local Catholics are giving less because of the Lynch- Urbanski case or the mushrooming pedophile scandal.

``It's too early to tell,'' Murphy says. ``We just don't know.''

No Demand For Accountability

Murky as diocesan finances are, bishops are under no pressure to make them clear.

Where pay is concerned, for example, the median salary for diocesan priests is $13,600, plus $16,000 in living expenses, says Sister Ellen Doyle, director of the National Association of Church Personnel Administrators, a consulting group that pushes ``just personnel practices rooted in gospel values.''

But no one tracks what bishops make.

``My impression is that most dioceses have a standard compensation plan that applies to all clergy no matter what,'' Doyle says. ``Everybody gets the same thing.''

Doyle says her association has not studied compensation in the St. Petersburg diocese.

Whatever his pay, Lynch lives in a church-owned waterfront home in the Harbor Isle area of northeast St. Petersburg valued in property records at $385,000. And he generates cash from ceremonial functions; officiating at these could bring Lynch $500 to $1,000, Urbanski says.

``He always told me that, at confirmations, he'd get an envelope with money in it,'' Urbanski says. ``He always said he gave one-third to the church, one-third to himself and one-third to his friends.

``No one would ever question him about spending,'' Urbanski added. ``As far as money was concerned, he lived high.''

Church reformers such as R. Scott Appleby, director of the Cushwa Center for the Study of American Catholicism at Notre Dame University, say the church could restore credibility bruised by the current scandals by becoming financially transparent.

Others, such as Charles Zech, a Villanova University economics professor who studies church finances, say church secrecy over money matters is as old as the millenniums.

``The Catholic Church is a top-down hierarchy,'' says Zech, who teaches courses on Catholic economics. ``Very few bishops have ever felt they owe anything at all'' to parishioners. ``The dioceses pride themselves on being nonaccountable.''

Many Catholics seem to accept that. Zech cites a 1994 study that found 38 percent of Catholics don't know how parish donations are spent.

Zech says that could change as younger Catholics demand to know where their money goes. ``They won't be as passive as their parents and grandparents,'' he says.

Gifts Came With A Price

Urbanski says he took the bishop's gifts over the years because ``he always set it up that it was a good thing, that this was for my family.''

In the beginning, Urbanski says, he was grateful. But eventually he came to feel pressured to spend time with the bishop when he would have preferred being home in south Tampa with his wife and two young children.

Urbanski's allegations against Lynch now are widely known.

A chiseled triathlete who grew up in a prominent Tampa family (his father was The Tampa Tribune's president), Urbanski ran a failing bicycle shop until Lynch hired him at $60,000 as diocese communications director, despite a dearth of experience.

He grew uneasy over what he saw as the bishop's unwelcome behavior: remarks about his physique, demands on his time, insistence on sharing rooms when traveling. Finally, he accused Lynch last September of sexual harassment.

When the story of the $100,000 settlement got out last month, the bishop admitted poor judgment but denied breaking his vow of celibacy. He said he sought counseling but offered no details.

Lynch managed the crisis carefully. He named three loyal subordinates - DiVito, Vicar General Brendan Muldoon and Chancellor Robert Gibbons - to review Urbanski's complaints.

They telephoned reports to Archbishop John Favalora in Miami; although the reason for this is unclear.

``He had no input,'' says Mary Ross Agosta, the archbishop's spokeswoman. ``He wouldn't have any jurisdiction in a personnel issue with the diocese.''

Nothing was put in writing, DiVito says. And nothing was disclosed publicly until Lynch learned the story was about to break in the Tribune. Then, he quickly called a news conference to detail his version of events first.

Believers Stand By Catholicism

Zech cautions against comparing imperious church ways with public institutions where accountability reigns.

``The church has nothing like shareholders,'' he says. ``It's not a democracy. There's no one for the bishop to report to.''

Brady is among liberal Catholics who see this as reason to worry that loyal believers are being fleeced.

``The bishops have unlimited resources, by their fundraising capability within a captive Catholic audience,'' Brady says. ``When you control all the strings and you negotiate the settlement, you can spin it any way you want.''

As the diocese tries to shake the Urbanski-Lynch controversy, some parishioners are pondering more accountability. Many are furious with Urbanski and angry that details of the case are still spilling into the open.

As Zech notes, that's not unusual.

``Folks are much more connected to their own parish than to what the bishop is doing,'' he said.

Is that a mistake? ``It's just reality,'' Zech said.

Irish Catholic columnist Jimmy Breslin, who is writing a book on the wider church sex scandal, may typify believers' attitudes, despite snowballing reports of payoffs, secret settlements and legal claims.

``I don't believe much in the church, which is corrupt,'' Breslin told the New York Post. ``I have a great deal of faith in the religion, which is beautiful.''

(CHART) (C) THE CHURCH AND THE DIOCESE

The Catholic Church is the biggest nongovernmental institution in the United States. A top-down hierarchy with thousands of parishes, it collects $7.5 billion a year through 47,000 priests controlled by 375 U.S. bishops who answer largely to themselves. Here's how the five-county Catholic Diocese of St. Petersburg compares with national Catholic institutions.

Parishes: The United States has more than 20,000 parishes. Locally, there are 73.

Schools: The nation's biggest operator of private schools, the church has more than 2.6 million students in 6,900 elementary and 1,200 high schools. Locally, the diocese has 16,385 students.

Universities: Nationally, 670,000 students attend 230 Catholic colleges, such as Georgetown, Boston College and Holy Cross. Locally, the diocese donates to Saint Leo University, north of Tampa, where the fall enrollment was 9,936.

Health Care: Handling 17 percent of U.S. patients, the national nonprofit Catholic system includes 637 hospitals, 122 home health care agencies and 700 other services such as adult day care and senior housing. Within the diocese are five independently run health care organizations: St. Joseph's Hospital and St. Joseph's John Knox Village in Tampa; and St. Anthony's Hospital, St. Petersburg Free Clinic Medical Center and Bon Secours Maria Manor Nursing Center in St. Petersburg. Although the diocese runs Bethlehem Center Inc. in Largo for seniors, there are six other independently operated homes for the aged.

Charities: Soup kitchens, shelters, child care and refugee resettlement are run by 1,400 agencies in Catholic Charities USA, which took in $2.3 billion in 1999. Besides the local Catholic Charities, the diocese runs soup kitchens, homeless shelters, hot lines, legal service offices and counseling; 14 day care centers; and three homes for substance abusers, abused children and adults, ex-offenders, runaways, delinquents and pregnant women.

31 posted on 05/24/2002 8:54:54 AM PDT by Rum Tum Tugger
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The Tampa Tribune reports that the Diocese paid Urbanski $100,000 as a settlement. I think the amount paid to keep Urbanski quiet was more like $150,000.

First, Urbanski stopped working in August, 2001, but the Diocese paid him through March 31, 2002, so that he would have 5 years of service and become vested in the Diocese' Retirement Plan.

The value of the additional compensation paid to Urbanski for not working plus the present value of the vested pension benefit up the total to almost $150,000.

32 posted on 05/24/2002 8:59:28 AM PDT by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: dead
Hint: The potatoe goes in the FRONT.
33 posted on 05/24/2002 10:15:22 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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"potatoe"

Didn't realize that I had been corresponding with you, Vice President Quayle!

Plan to run again in 2004?

34 posted on 05/24/2002 10:19:44 AM PDT by Rum Tum Tugger
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Didn't realize that I had been corresponding with you, Vice President Quayle! Plan to run again in 2004

AS Chairman of the "What the Hell was Old man Bush thinking when he named Quayle V.P?" Committee, I have been authorised to speak on behalf of the inimitable Mr. Quayle: "I am to busy praising the virtues of MTV's Ozzy Osborne to think (tee, hee. Sorry, I always giggle when I say that)about running for anything..now, where are my golf clubs? Did Gerald Ford lock them in his truck again?"

35 posted on 05/24/2002 3:28:21 PM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: Rum Tum Tugger
Got my copy of the Bishop's letter today explaining why The Tampa Tribune is all wrong.

This year's BAPA pledges are less than 50% of the Bishop's goal. Payment of contributions to the Diocesan Capital Campaign have fallen off considerably. Weekly collections are down by as much as 30% in some parishes.

It's going to be interesting to see what Bishop's like Lynch do when the financial screws get really tight.

36 posted on 05/24/2002 4:30:15 PM PDT by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: Rum Tum Tugger
Thanks for posting the article about Lynch and his little boy toy. This guy is a crook, spending diocesan money on gifts for someone he's obviously enamored with, and living like a king.

Jesus had no place to lay His Head, and Robert Lynch takes his squeezes to expensive steakhouses.

I wouldn't give this SOB another thin dime.

I compare this fat ass to my bishop, Joseph Delaney, who only eats twice a day, drives a ten year old car, and can pack everything he owns in his car when he moves.

37 posted on 05/24/2002 4:41:12 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Rum Tum Tugger
Blackmailers 2
Bishops 0


38 posted on 05/24/2002 5:02:40 PM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: csistrueblue
Go for it, it's one of the few originals of mine....
39 posted on 05/27/2002 5:04:02 PM PDT by gortklattu
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To: Rum Tum Tugger;Sinkspur;Catholicguy;csistrueblue;gortklattu;SMEDLEYBUTLER
The following appeared in my Parish bulletin last weekend:

BAPA Parish Goal - $331,000

Pledges - $56,055

Pledges Received - $28,412 given by 158 donors with an average fit of $355.

Where are the other 4, 300 families? We need to hear from everyone in the Parish! The balance of our goal will be taken directly from our operating income during the coming year. ($274,945)

Some observations:

1. The laity are voting with their pocket books -- much more than I expected.

2. Our homosexual, corrupt Bishop Robert Lynch will get his cut no matter what, but he needs his money so he can continue taking his boy friends to Key West and San Francisco for weekend getaways. Why do Catholics put up with this?

3. The Bishop will be the last to suffer, but many valuable programs for children and the poor will be hurt significantly.

4. The story must be the same in most of the U.S. When the Bishops meet in June, they will be apoplectic. We're going to see some very arrogant behavior in June. The Bishops believe they have a right to be corrupt.

40 posted on 05/29/2002 4:24:32 PM PDT by Rum Tum Tugger
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The story must be the same in most of the U.S. When the Bishops meet in June, they will be apoplectic. We're going to see some very arrogant behavior in June.

These men have never answered to ANYBODY!

Once a priest is ordained, he can do just about anything and not be fired. I worked for IBM, a company that never fired anybody for the first fifteen years I worked for them, but even they saw the stupidity of that policy eventually.

Accountability is something no Catholic cleric really has to worry about. That goes in spades for bishops. These guys control all the money, legally, in a diocese, and can do whatever the hell they want.

They do NOT have to listen to you, or any other Catholic layman; they never have and they never will!

The only way you can express your outrage with a situation like this, is to withhold your donations. Instead of a check, put a note in the envelope telling the pastor how much you're putting in escrow, and it will be released to the parish when the bishop is gone or he agrees to some oversight. Until then, no matter how much it hurts your parish, nada!

And, once ever six months or so, I'd send an e-mail to the chancery, letting fat boy himself know how much this one Catholic layman is holding back.

You've got no choice. This arrogant SOB is not going to change or agree to be accountable to the people who pay for his expensive trips with his boy toys.

Don't let anybody tell you you're sinning, either. You're not. In fact, you're sinning if you keep enabling a decadent hierarch like Lynch.

41 posted on 05/29/2002 4:54:35 PM PDT by sinkspur
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