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Heads-Up To Ashcroft Proves Threat Was Known Before 9/11
SFGATE (San Francisco Chronicle online) ^ | June 3, 2002 | Harley Sorensen

Posted on 06/03/2002 11:55:31 AM PDT by Plummz

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:40:20 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

They might have been surprised by the ferocity of the attacks, but the highest-ranking members of the George W. Bush administration knew before Sept. 11 that something terrible was going to happen soon.

Bush knew something was going to happen involving airplanes. He just didn't know what or exactly when. His attorney general, John Ashcroft, knew. His national security advisor, Condoleezza Rice, knew. They all knew.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911; ashcroft; condoleezariceton; espionagelist; fbi; hillaryclinton; terrorwar; wbush
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Well? Do you?
1 posted on 06/03/2002 11:55:32 AM PDT by Plummz
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To: Plummz
Ashcroft used to fly commercial, just as Janet Reno did. So why, two months before Sept. 11, did he start taking chartered government planes?

Because Ashcroft received personal death threats. But go ahead and make it part of your conspiracy theory. Why should the truth factor in to your "reporting"?

2 posted on 06/03/2002 11:59:02 AM PDT by SunStar
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To: *Espionage_list;*TerrorWar
Bump list
3 posted on 06/03/2002 12:00:17 PM PDT by Free the USA
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To: SunStar
Ashcroft demonstrated an amazing lack of curiosity when asked if he knew anything about the threat. "Frankly, I don't," he told reporters.
4 posted on 06/03/2002 12:00:20 PM PDT by Plummz
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To: Plummz
I knew too.
5 posted on 06/03/2002 12:01:20 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Plummz
It's funny how all these libs don't ask what Clinton knew and when he knew it! The Al Queida and Bin Laden didn't just materialize out of then air on Jan. 20, 2001, but you'd never know that from the liberal media!
6 posted on 06/03/2002 12:02:08 PM PDT by Alissa
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To: Plummz;GrampaDave;Howlin;MissMarple;rintense;kayak;homeschool mama
Is this the kind of thread where I'm now supposed to say..."Why, I'll NEVER vote for him again!"?
7 posted on 06/03/2002 12:02:52 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma
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To: Plummz
>>Harley Sorensen is a longtime journalist and iconoclast<<.

I have to admit my ignorance; I had to look this word up:

"iconoclast - 1. one who attacks and seeks to break down traditional beliefs and institutions or popular ideas and values."

Pretty pretentious title IMHO.

8 posted on 06/03/2002 12:07:46 PM PDT by SerpentDove
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To: Plummz
Why else would it have Ashcroft use a $1,600-plus per hour G-3 Gulfstream when he could have flown commercial, as he always did before, for a fraction of the cost?

Because he’s a government hump who, like all government humps, doesn’t mind spending our money for his luxury.

No need for a conspiracy, beyond the conspiracy of free-spending federal potentates.

9 posted on 06/03/2002 12:12:53 PM PDT by dead
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To: Plummz
Gee, wonder if the vilification of Ashcroft as a racist during his protracted confirmation hearings may have lead to any threats?? Hmmmm?

(Also wouldn't want to speculate on how this delay in his confirmation may have lead to any pre 9/11 lapses, 'cause that wouldn't be right)

10 posted on 06/03/2002 12:14:25 PM PDT by The G Man
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To: Plummz
Who could have known, or imagined, such horror, prior to 9/11?


11 posted on 06/03/2002 12:14:58 PM PDT by ppaul
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To: Plummz
Harley must get Rather to help him write his rant. It's been well known that specific threats had been made against Ashcroft, except to the managing editor of CBS News and this putz.
12 posted on 06/03/2002 12:15:00 PM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: Plummz
zzzzzzzzzzz
13 posted on 06/03/2002 12:15:34 PM PDT by Coop
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To: SunStar
Has it ever occurred to you that every government official receives death threats?  That's about as bogus an excuse as I've ever heard.

On July 5, 2001, according to a recent Washington Post article, the White House called together officials from a dozen federal agencies to give them a warning.

"Something really spectacular is going to happen here, and it's going to happen soon," the officials were told by the government's top counterterrorism official,
Richard Clarke.

Clarke considered the threat sufficiently important to direct every counterintelligence office to cancel vacations and get ready for immediate action, the Post reported.

How do you explain this away?  If we knew something was about to take place, why didn't we have contingency plans to protect the capital from attack by air?

I'll admit to a little skepticism regarding some of the Bush and Ashcroft should have known statements, but there are aspects of this that simply defy logic.

14 posted on 06/03/2002 12:16:03 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Plummz
Why is it that, when faced with compelling circumstantial evidence, the Clinton administration was still able to say that you couldn't "prove" anything, but with the Bush administration, any coincidental occurance is proof?

-PJ

15 posted on 06/03/2002 12:17:23 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too
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To: Plummz
Bush knew something was going to happen involving airplanes. He just didn't know what or exactly when.

So what exactly do they suggest he should have done?
An airplane.
How? No answer.
When? No answer.

Gee, that's enough to 'guess' 4 planes were going to be highjacked and flown into the World Trade Center, aye? What's wrong with Bush? He should have read their minds! He's president! Being psychic is mandatory for the position!!!

Of couse, using that logic, Clinton, who must have also been psychic to be president, also knew about the following before it happened and should have warned the people:

Addressing terrorism of Osama Bin Laden before the 1993 WTC bombing,
the 1993 trip to Somalia - in which our retreat after 18 deaths was perceived as weak by Bin Laden and the Islamic world ,
the 1995 US barracks bombing in Saudi Arabia,
the 1995 Philippine warning of terrorists hijacking planes to fly them into government buildings,
the 1996 Khobar towers bombing,
the 1998 US embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania,
or the 2000 USS Cole bombing.

'After' each,of course, President Clinton promised to bring the "cowards" to justice. By summer of 1996, Bin Laden had fled to Afghanistan.
You can also blame him for not taking the Sudanese government up on their offer to extradite Bin Laden.

Clinton knew!

16 posted on 06/03/2002 12:20:12 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: SunStar
The FBI did advise Ashcroft to stay off commercial aircraft. The rest of us just had to take our chances.

The thread of rational behind this is if the Fed's were under the impression that a more conventional hijacking was likely to occur, Ashcroft's presence on the plane would be a gigantic feather in the cap of the hijackers. It's hard to imagine that he would not have been singled out by hijackers and used as an additional bargaining chip.

17 posted on 06/03/2002 12:20:46 PM PDT by Allrightnow
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To: onedoug
Any one with at least 2 fireing neutrons in thier brain knew we were in for an attack. I was marveling that it had not already happened when it happened. We did know!
18 posted on 06/03/2002 12:21:16 PM PDT by wingnuts'nbolts
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To: Plummz
Ashcroft used to fly commercial, just as Janet Reno did.

Did she? Everytime I see this crap rehashed a nagging doubt says that Reno spent time on private planes also.

Of course, Hillary is well known for abusing Air Fed when running for her Senate seat. What did she care? The rubes were paying the bill.

19 posted on 06/03/2002 12:25:21 PM PDT by TC Rider
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To: Brad's Gramma
How should I know? Think (or don't) for yourself.
20 posted on 06/03/2002 12:28:36 PM PDT by Plummz
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