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Arab Christian Clergymen Against Western Christians, Jews, and Israel (Translated Article)
MEMRI Translated from A selection of articles Listed below. | May 1, 2002 | MEMRI Editorial Translation Staff May 31, 2002

Posted on 06/12/2002 1:38:19 PM PDT by vannrox

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Translated articles referred to above:

[1] Palestine Television (Palestinian Authority), April 22, 2002.

[2] Al-Quds (Palestinian Authority), April 24, 2002.

[3] Al-Quds (Palestinian Authority), April 24, 2002.

[4] Al-Maydan (Egypt), April 22, 2002, as cited in Al-Quds Al-Arabi (London), April 24, 2002.

[5] Cited in Al-Quds Al-Arabi (London), April 29, 2002.

[6] Al-Ahram (Egypt), April 25, 2002.

[7] Palestine Television (Palestinian Authority), April 26, 2002.

[8] Al-Manar Television (Lebanon-Hizbullah), April 24, 2002.

[9] Palestine Television (Palestinian Authority), April 22, 2002.

[10] Watani (Egypt), April 21, 2002, as cited in Al-Quds Al-Arabi (London), April 23, 2002.

[11] Al-Maydan (Egypt), April 22, 2002, as cited in Al-Quds Al-Arabi (London), April 24, 2002.

[12] Al-Manar Television (Lebanon-Hizbullah), April 24, 2002.

1 posted on 06/12/2002 1:38:22 PM PDT by vannrox
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To: vannrox
Yea, right!!! Today's Jews kill Jesus, almost daily. Wonder what the world would be like if Jesus hadn't died on the Cross... And those Israeli Jews must be very powerful persuaders, what with it being so obvious they shouldn't be aloud to live and breath. Just allowing Jews to live proves they can minipulate "western opinion." Am I missing anything?
2 posted on 06/12/2002 1:50:14 PM PDT by Dixie republican
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To: vannrox
"The Church, the Pope, the Christians, and the New Testament clearly state that, according to Christian belief, the ones who killed Jesus are the Jews, and there is no way to deny or renounce this..."

Jesus -a Jew- was killed by the combined efforts of the Pharisees, the non-Jewish Judean monarchy, and the Roman procurator.

The "church" was all Jewish at first, that is, until the Apostle Paul's ministry to convert great numbers of gentiles.

According to this deluded gent, it seems to be a true Christian is to be anti-semitic.

3 posted on 06/12/2002 2:02:31 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr
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To: vannrox
"The Church, the Pope, the Christians, and the New Testament clearly state that, according to Christian belief, the ones who killed Jesus are the Jews, and there is no way to deny or renounce this..."

Jesus -a Jew- was killed by the combined efforts of the Pharisees, the non-Jewish Judean monarchy, and the Roman procurator.

The "church" was all Jewish at first, that is, until the Apostle Paul's ministry to convert great numbers of gentiles.

According to this deluded gent, it seems to be a true Christian is to be anti-semitic.

4 posted on 06/12/2002 2:03:21 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr
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To: vannrox
"The Church, the Pope, the Christians, and the New Testament clearly state that, according to Christian belief, the ones who killed Jesus are the Jews, and there is no way to deny or renounce this..."

Jesus -a Jew- was killed by the combined efforts of the Pharisees, the non-Jewish Judean monarchy, and the Roman procurator.

The "church" was all Jewish at first, that is, until the Apostle Paul's ministry to convert great numbers of gentiles.

According to this deluded gent, it seems to be a true Christian is to be anti-semitic.

5 posted on 06/12/2002 2:04:11 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr
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Sorry about the multiplicity. Connection or server(?) problems.
6 posted on 06/12/2002 2:08:52 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr
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To: Jagdgewehr
Sorry about the multiplicity. Connection or server(?) problems.

No, the Jews or Western Christians probably caused it.

7 posted on 06/12/2002 2:28:38 PM PDT by xJones
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To: Jagdgewehr
>The "church" was all Jewish at first, that is, until the Apostle Paul's ministry to convert great
numbers of gentiles.

Paul certainly did convert a number of gentiles, but he went first to those who were neither Jew nor Gentile.

"Gentile" simply means "not quite like us"; nothing more.  Mormons call non-Mormons "Gentiles".  Jews call non-Jews "Gentiles". The Lost Sheep of the House of Israel are simply a unique sub-set of Gentiles who are Israelites, but not Jews.

Matthew 10:5-6  Reads: These twelve Jesus sent out and commanded them, saying: "Do not go into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter a city of the Samaritans. But go rather to the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel . "

The Title House of Israel was assigned to the Northern Kingdom as part of their Eternal Heritage when the Davidic Kingdom split, and its members were never Jewish.  Therefore, this is NOT a command to go first to Jews.

The House of Israel later became The Lost Tribes of Israel who won their freedom from the Assyrians ~610 BC. These now over 5 MILLION Israelites spread quickly to the West and North where they became known to history as The CELTS . It was to these non-Jewish CELTS in Galatia, etc. that Jesus first sent his12 apostles.

The Northern Kingdom Israelites were not Jews, thus were Gentiles in the Jewish sense.  But they were not Gentiles in the Israelite sense, because they WERE Israelites.  This huge nation of Israelites was simply the The Lost Sheep of the House of Israel. They made up the bulk of the early Christians, and all the promises they received as Israelites were, and are, still good today.  Gods inheritance has no statue of limitations.

8 posted on 06/12/2002 2:41:56 PM PDT by LostTribe
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To: Jagdgewehr
"Oh Mr. Bush, Are You Christian or Crusader?"

Notice how PROTESTANT EVANGELICALS are blamed for the CRUSADES!!!!!!!!!!

Again and again and again, the Vatican does the crime, and Protestants do the time in the history books and court of World Opinion. I actually know people who are so ignorant of history, that they blame Protestant Evangelicals for the Inquisition!!! And they use this to justify their hatred of Jesus Christ and His Word.

They do the same exact thing with the Catholic pedophillia issue. To them, it's Christianity and the teachings of Jesus who are guilty of victimizing children, rather than the corrupt Vatican. And the beat goes on.

9 posted on 06/12/2002 2:44:18 PM PDT by berned
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To: Jagdgewehr
"Oh Mr. Bush, Are You Christian or Crusader?"

Notice how PROTESTANT EVANGELICALS are blamed for the CRUSADES!!!!!!!!!!

Again and again and again, the Vatican does the crime, and Protestants do the time in the history books and court of World Opinion. I actually know people who are so ignorant of history, that they blame Protestant Evangelicals for the Inquisition!!! And they use this to justify their hatred of Jesus Christ and His Word.

They do the same exact thing with the Catholic pedophillia issue. To them, it's Christianity and the teachings of Jesus who are guilty of victimizing children, rather than the corrupt Vatican. And the beat goes on.

10 posted on 06/12/2002 2:44:19 PM PDT by berned
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To: vannrox
I'm Catholic educated, from grade school through high school, studied Catechism, went to Mass, read the Bible. I used to get into Bible discussions with the Jehova's Witness people who came around on Saturdays. We used 3 versions of the Bible - Douay, King James, and the one that the Jehovas use.

Nothing these "clergymen" are saying makes any sense. It is because of the translation, or is it because they are muddled Middle Easterners? Is it something in the water over there?

11 posted on 06/12/2002 2:48:39 PM PDT by etcetera
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To: vannrox
Dr. Babawi published another article in the Egyptian government daily Al-Ahram slamming his fellow Copts living in the West for their failure to support the Palestinians....

The only difference between the Coptic Christians in the West and their brethren in the Middle East is that those in the west are free, and those in the Middle East are living in a state of dhimmitude, in which only those who bow and scrape to the muslim antichrist, whether out of denial or conscious faleshood, are allowed to escape persecution. (Of course, if the muslim eats something bad for breakfast, he might persecute the dhimmis anyway.) The same applies, more or less, to the Christians in other communions that have both Western and Middle Eastern members.

Unfortunately, we have some Christians here in the West, including all too many denominational mis-leaders, who have adopted a dhimmi-like posture already, by playing the muslim apologist. It's as if they were lying down and BEGGING the muslims to conquer us!!!! I say NO WAY!!! Resist islamic world domination with all our might, pray God to arm us for the fight and make us worthy of victory, and also to bring feeedom to our Middle Eastern brothers and sisters in Christ, and free them from the yoke of dhimmitude!!!!

12 posted on 06/12/2002 2:51:30 PM PDT by Honorary Serb
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To: berned
Excellent point!
13 posted on 06/12/2002 2:58:08 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr
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To: vannrox
Well that picture of the Roman Catholic Vatican emmissary high fiving Arafat outside the Church of the Nativity said it all to me,whatever Religion todays Preachers and Priests are in have nothing to do with my God who isn't into treachery,bigotry,racism,sedition and liscentous ways,pefidry and the allmight dollar,f***ing people over for a Percentage thats a Judas thang.
14 posted on 06/12/2002 2:58:43 PM PDT by Governor StrangeReno
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To: xJones
No, the Jews or Western Christians probably caused it.

Quite so. I stand corrected.

15 posted on 06/12/2002 3:00:44 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr
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To: vannrox
These are people with a gun to their heads. I wouldn't take it as their real opinion.
16 posted on 06/12/2002 3:01:57 PM PDT by Salman
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To: Salman
These are people with a gun to their heads. I wouldn't take it as their real opinion.

RIGHT! muslim savages in Egypt do kill Coptic Christians and burn down their churches from time to time. And the sharia-influenced Egyptian "courts" turn a deaf ear to Coptic pleas for justice, as do the Egyptian muslim police.

17 posted on 06/12/2002 3:58:50 PM PDT by Honorary Serb
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To: Dixie republican
Oohh.. this roils me - and that's an understatement.

These so-called Catholic Palestinians annoy me to no end. It seems as though they have more allegience to their Palestinian "cause" and care less about being Catholic. You can make the Palestianian a Catholic but he'll always be a Palestian first I guess. Frankly, I don't trust them.

When the terrorists who took the Church of the Nativity hostage were let go there was a Franciscan friar (who appeared to be Palestinian) that followed them around flashing his big gold watch, designer sunglasses while he talked on his cell phone -- what was all that about?
18 posted on 06/12/2002 4:06:30 PM PDT by oline
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To: LostTribe
Where is the evidence that the Israelites who were taken into captivity by the Assyrians were (or became) Celts?
19 posted on 06/12/2002 4:12:59 PM PDT by GuillermoX
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