Small American Muslim Village Disappears

The Fresno Bee ^ | 6/14/02 | Bethany Clough

[goodieD]

BADGER -- A handwritten sign on an isolated, winding section of Highway 245 advertised a yard sale Thursday. "Everything must go," it read.

Apparently, that included the people who lived there.

One woman and a collection of clothes, chairs and computer parts were all that remained of Baladullah, a Muslim village near the mountain community of Badger.

[goodieD]

Our local foothills have often been home to assorted religious groups, legitimate and otherwise. This makes me a bit nervous though. Like most of us on FR, I don't buy into the whole "Islam is a peaceful religion" nonsense. So I don't feel too good about having these people just roaming around the area.

[LurkedLongEnough]

Sequoia National Park is near there, no?

[goodieD]

not that far away.. we also have Kings Canyon nearby.

[Cachelot]

Regrouping when hit by too much attention. Coming soon to somewhere near you :)).

[Capt. Tom]

Now, just six months later, that spirit is nearly gone, and firm answers as to where the people have gone are hard to find.

Maybe they are on individual missions. - Tom

[Cicero]

It's interesting that they were in a lot of legal trouble well before 9/11, including one man arrested for smuggling firearms in March and another who shot a deputy sherriff in August. I would reserve judgment on the kidnapping business, because there are usually two sides to such family disputes. Still, no one can say that the authorities were overreacting after 9/11. How many small, rural communities are involved in two serious crimes such as gun-smuggling and murder of a law officer in the course of a few months?

[twntaipan]

How close is this place to a major city or to a nuclear facility?

It may be they don't want to be around when their brethren launch the next attack.

[Freebird Forever]

How close is this place to a major city or to a nuclear facility?

It may be they don't want to be around when their brethren launch the next attack.

The same thought occurred to me.

[aristeides]

I wonder if they depended on funding from Muslim "charities" which has now been cut off.

[hellinahandcart]

Small American Muslim Village Disappears

Now that's a neat trick; will the technology work on larger villages too?

[abner]

Why is there an Islamic Village in the foothills near Fresno?

This one...

[Delbert]

COOL!

[Hellmouth]

This makes Baladullah America's newest ghost town, and its first Islamic one. Ghost towns are cool bump....

[Minnesoootan]

Sounds like a good place to send in a scour team for a once over now that it is vacant....couple sniffin dogs,you know,see what turns up.

A Trans-Camero,old tires,old refrigerator,trailer houses.....sounds like camoflage to me! ;-)

[goodieD]

how close to a major city.. prolly 45 minutes from a half million sized city. No nukes nearby though.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Were these homegrown Islamaniacs or imported?

[gracie1]

I have an idea that their main source of funding was the charter school that was yanked out from under them in January. There was a lot of screaming and yelling in the media that the investigation was racially motivated and anti-islamic. But the truth is there has been a number of charter schools that the Board of Education has been putting the screws to over debt, attendance logs, employee background checks and all the other standards they must maintain.

If you get government money, the government will be on your case to follow their rules.

[gracie1]

No nukes, but the California Air National Guard with all manner of firepower is here.

[nunya bidness]

Interesting. All gone.

[Travis McGee]

Very, they have dispersed and gone into hiding.

Check your local mosque.

[Travis McGee]

I hope the FBI has taken our suggestion and gone out to their shooting ranges to dig up spent slugs and collect brass for future comparison use.

[Byron_the_Aussie]

...I don't feel too good about having these people just roaming around the area....

Right.

What do you suggest?

Internment?

[Byron_the_Aussie]

...I hope the FBI has taken our suggestion and gone out to their shooting ranges to dig up spent slugs and collect brass for future comparison use....

...after they do the same thing at your shooting range, Travis.

Unlike these people, you're actually on record as repeatedly stating anti-US government opinions, right?

[ZDaphne]

Thanks for posting this. I read it in this morning's Fresno Bee and WISHED I knew how to post it, but I didn't. This certainly bears investigation. Raises all sorts of red flags in my mind. Glad you followed thru. Good job! BTT

[ZDaphne]

Thanks for posting that link and giving us some prior history on the story, especially about one of these "peaceful" members of this community killing a Fresno County Deputy. We (Americans) can be pretty dumb, can't we?

[Travis McGee]

Unlike these people, you're actually on record as repeatedly stating anti-US government opinions, right?

Bullcrap you limp wristed swishy disarmed ozzie! I am a very strong advocate of adhering to the oath sworn by myself and every military man and police officer to defend the constitution of the United States against ALL enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC.

If you read it any other way, you are obviously on the side of the anti-constitutional would be tyrants. If any of them happen to work for the government, that's their problem.

[monkeywrench]

The lifestyle and beliefs of islamees is anti-US govt. Here, we express anti-CORRUPT US govt. Learn the difference.

[Righty1]

I am favoring interment.

[COBOL2Java]

Islamic Rapture? If so which direction, I wonder...

[Byron_the_Aussie]

..if any of them happen to work for the government, that's their problem...

Does that include you, Travis?

On the one hand, supposedly writing some tough-guy Unintended Consequences rip-off, about the state's war against the citizen. Yet, here on this thread, fretting about whether the FBI are investigating this group- even though there's no grounds, to do so.

Whose side are you on?

[Byron_the_Aussie]

..especially about one of these "peaceful" members of this community killing a Fresno County Deputy...

...and where did it say the killer was a 'member of the community'?

[Byron_the_Aussie]

...I am favoring interment....

Surprise, surprise.

But the purpose of this website is to defend the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights. So you're on the wrong forum. Perhaps you might feel more comfortable atPyongyang Daily News Talkback?

[Travis McGee]

I am in support of America, that means I am for our Constution and against terrorists, who seem to be islamic radicals.

You are just a disarmed ozzie sheep waiting to have his nuts clipped off at the time of his fully armed government's choosing.

A content slave like you can't possibly understand Americans.

[Thinkin' Gal]

Visalia bump.

[Mark17]

I see he is at it again, Trav, why not just ignore the disarmed individual.

[The KG9 Kid]

[Travis McGee]

And not to mention: if it hadn't been for big mean Americans saving Oz in 1942, you would have been conceived in a Japanese Imperial Army "comfort house", and your daddy would be some nameless Japanese soldier on holiday in your beaten and defeated and conquered island nation.

[magellan]

This just proves Balkanism does not work in America.

[Byron_the_Aussie]

...I am in support of America, that means I am for our Constution and against terrorists, who seem to be islamic radicals...

Ha!

How would harassing these Muslims be 'supporting the Constitution', Agent McGee?

[Byron_the_Aussie]

...if it hadn't been for big mean Americans saving Oz in 1942, you would have been conceived in a Japanese Imperial Army "comfort house....

Blah, blah, blah.

Let's just stick to the topic for once, eh, Lon?

[Travis McGee]

But the purpose of this website is to defend the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights. So you're on the wrong forum.

It's you that seems to be on the wrong site you disarmed Ozzie slave.

[norraad]

Exactly! These are savages, no matter how you dress it up, they don't belong in or near America.

America is for human beings, human beings who are willing to join in with other human beings for mutual benefit.

Am I right or am I right?

[dighton]

Visalia bump.

Thanks.

If I'm not mistaken, the Badger site was Synanon's world HQ before Baladullah moved in. What next?

[Travis McGee]

You are the one who leaped from my logical suggestion that a radical Islamic training camp in California with it's own shooting ranges have it's lead collected, to suggesting that I am a worse threat than islamic terrorists. So you put the entire topic of guns and nations on the table.

IOW, bugger off you neutered disarmed Ozzie slave.

If you slink over to this website of a FREE Republic from your land of disarmed slaves, it should only be to thank your betters for saving your nation from the Japanese.

OTOH, you don't seem to mind subjugation and slavery much, so maybe you would not notice much difference today, except for the Japanese gestapo in charge and your own half Asian eyes.

[Byron_the_Aussie]

...except for the Japanese gestapo in charge and your own half Asian eyes....

Hey Trav, stay focused.

This is one of your Arab hate threads, remember?

[Byron_the_Aussie]

...to suggesting that I am a worse threat than islamic terrorists...

Well, sorry if that offends you, but I reckon your kind are often a worse threat, than Islamic terrorists.

I think the US can defeat Islamic terrorism, just as it defeated Soviet Communism and European Fascism. But what kind of victory would it be if the Constitution has to be thrown in the trash to accomplish it, as you're recommending? And as for basically saying the FBI, of Waco and Ruby Ridge fame, should investigate this rural religious community, despite there being no grounds whatsoever for an investigation- well, I just think you're a damned hypocrite. And no freedom lover, not by a long shot.

Should your planned book ever be listed at Amazon.com, I think a link to this thread would be quite an eye-opener in the review section. Potential book buyers need to know that the supposed pro-liberty author is more than happy to run to the Feds if the circumstances suit his prejudices.

[Righty1]

If you want to give away your country fine. We are going to defend ours. The constitution is not an arcane, obstruse, theoritical suicide pact. The main purpose of the U.S. Gov is to defend its' citizens rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. They have failed miserably because they are afraid of PC terrorust apologists like you! Why don't you move to SA where you to can go on TV and call Jews pigs, monkeys, and vampires. You are just another A-rabid death's head Mufti.

[goodieD]

Byron the Aussie eh? Are you here escaping the terrible rights violations your countrymen are now enjoying?

[Mo1]

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[FreedomPoster]

What do you suggest?

Internment?

Deportation? Frankly, I see little reason to allow Islamic vistors into the country. In fact, I can think of several thousand reasons why we don't need any.