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Michael Jackson Bowled Over by Exuberant Fans - "I love these people."
yahoo.com ^ | Jun 14, 2002 - 2:12 PM ET | Paul Majendie

Posted on 06/15/2002 3:26:48 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: demkicker
Regarding your claim that: "Millions of females would do anything to be with him. These females are not just fans, they want to be with him to date him, and go to bed with him." You need to consider who these females are. To say they are naive would be too kind... Stupid is more appropriate. M.J. is a FREAK and there isn't a masculine bone in his body. That's a fact. Wake up and deal with it.

For your information, many(most?) men do not care that much how "naive or stupid" a woman is, to get into her pants, as long as her outward appearance is beautiful and buxom, though admittedly artificial.

That's a fact.

Wake up and deal with it.

41 posted on 06/15/2002 7:23:32 AM PDT by waterstraat
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To: waterstraat
Just who do you think is smarter, M.Jackson or you?

I am. Because I know enough to live with myself every day not having to mutilate myself because I'm so pathetic I NEED attention from women (and men) who hang off rich people like ticks on a dog. It's clear what your values are: money and fame. Sure, I'd like to have money. But I do not want fame. I'd rather be rich and anonymous than rich and famous. And for the record, my IQ is 167. And I have one woman who thinks I'm hot, which is enough for me. What anybody else thinks (good or bad) is unimportant. So by my value system, I am smarter. If money and success are what it's all about to you, then likely nothing I say will have any effect on you whatsoever. That's OK. I've known people like that before. Sociopath is one term for them.

By the way, you neglect to mention that Michael Jackson has a hell of a lot of people that hate him, and want to do grievous bodily harm to him. How 'smart' is it to attract psychos who would injure him or his family? That's pretty self-centered, actually. He's not Jesus, for Pete's sake! Richard Ramirez(the Night Stalker), and Charles Manson, each of them have many female admirers. If that makes them better than I am (or any other FReeper on this thread), then I'd like to see who's responsible for your value system.

I've been here for a year and a half, and you have provoked my most angry post ever (directed at a member, that is, as opposed to directed at Daschle or bin Laden). Maybe that notion will give you a sense of the power you seem to be in love with.

42 posted on 06/15/2002 7:37:42 AM PDT by TrappedInLiberalHell
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
That should read 'each of them has'.
43 posted on 06/15/2002 7:40:29 AM PDT by TrappedInLiberalHell
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To: waterstraat
It was not Pricilla Presley,

You're right. My mistake. It was her daughter who sold her ass.

it was the daughter of Elvis Presley that was in love with, and who married M.Jackson,

ROFLMAO!

Those who think that the only child of Elvis Presley needs "something else" to become a celebrity, is grasping for straws.

Right. She has had SOOO much luck making and selling a album on her own,and had her name and photo in the news almost every day. Right.

Both Lisa and M.Jackson proclaimed many times that the marraige was not a sham, that they loved each other, that they had sex as husband and wife,

Haven't Bubba-1 and Bubbette! said the very same thing? Seems to me like even Tipsy Gore said Goober was "one hell of a lover" when people started to hint he might be a little light in the loafers. Oh yeah,Bubbette! really IS the smartest woman in the world,and Bubba-1 never cheated on his living wife.

and Lisa never was with any other man as long as she was with M.Jackson.

Anybody ever ask her about the chimp?

Lisa Presley could have nearly any man in america,

Wrong. She is only average looking and seems to have no talent at all.

but she chose M.Jackson because of his unsurpassed sex appeal.

Forget your sarcasm tag?

44 posted on 06/15/2002 7:41:03 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: sneakypete; Thinkin' Gal

Anybody ever ask her about the chimp?

"The chimp is mine."

45 posted on 06/15/2002 7:45:39 AM PDT by dighton
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To: waterstraat
He is not "a known child molestor and rapist".

Yes,he is. To anybody with a single grain of common sense,anyway.

He was accused of doing such things. But M.Jackson was never convicted of anything.

Right. And the reason he paid the 12 year old boy who had been his "traveling companion" for a couple of years $16 MILLION in "hush money" would be????

He's queer and he's a child rapist. Welcome to reality.

46 posted on 06/15/2002 7:51:08 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: sneakypete
He's a NOTORIOUS Pederast.

He's a DEVIANT SODOMITE.

He's one heart beat away from an eternity in torment and flames.

And any woman who is attracted to him will have the opportunity to spend time without end with him where he is going.

47 posted on 06/15/2002 8:03:04 AM PDT by Jonathan
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To: sneakypete
Sneakypete, I'm afraid our comments are falling on deaf ears (or in this case, blind eyes). The person seems to insist that everyone is jealous of Michael Jackson and wants to be him. I think I wasn't completely grown up until I realized that there are people in this world who, whatever their protestations to the contrary, have completely closed minds. My own grandfather was one of them, and in fact, he was the very 'man' who woke me up to this fact. He also deepened my commitment to my values. Negative people CAN teach us. They teach us what not to do, and they show us what can happen if we carry certain 'values' to their extreme.

Wealth and fame does not equate with a person's intelligence and morality. Powerball winners are rich and famous. Alex Kelly was nouveau riche, and famous for rape. Some would have us believe that their wealth and fame make them smarter than I am. I fear for our country if that idea is widely held. If I really cared about money, I'm sure I could make a fair amount. If I really cared about fame, I'd do something to ensure it, like sending mail bombs or something.

Oh well, I've got a garden to tend to. It means more to me than having my mug on the cover of Rolling Stone, any day of the week.

48 posted on 06/15/2002 8:06:47 AM PDT by TrappedInLiberalHell
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To: Cincinatus' Wife;waterstraat

Richard Ramirez aka The Nightstalker

Even the Nightstalker had adoring fans. Heck, for that matter so did Chairman Mao, Adolph Hitler and Smiling Joe Stalin. I know that the Nightstalker was convicted of crimes, I'm not sure about the other three.

49 posted on 06/15/2002 8:19:14 AM PDT by csvset
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To: Jonathan
He's one heart beat away from an eternity in torment and flames.

Ahh,the fundie corner has now been heard from.

And any woman who is attracted to him will have the opportunity to spend time without end with him where he is going.

Ahhh,the fundie fruitcake corner has been heard from. You are now trying to claim that any woman who is attracted to him shares in his guilt? It's people like you who give the fundie nutcases such a bad name. I'll bet you get a woodie just thinking about people burning in a fire,don't you?

50 posted on 06/15/2002 8:32:02 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: Jonathan;dighton;Orual
He's a NOTORIOUS Pederast. He's a DEVIANT SODOMITE.

Headline of 2003(?): "Jackson, Upset by False Accusations, Converts to Catholicism. Will Enter Seminary"

51 posted on 06/15/2002 8:32:49 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
Sneakypete, I'm afraid our comments are falling on deaf ears (or in this case, blind eyes)

Yup. It's no different than trying to reason with a Cliotonoid or a Bush-Bot.

52 posted on 06/15/2002 8:34:24 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
knocked to the ground, huh? Will he need corrective surgery?
53 posted on 06/15/2002 8:35:26 AM PDT by willyboyishere
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To: dighton
What ever happened to aging gracefully?
54 posted on 06/15/2002 8:49:26 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: willyboyishere
knocked to the ground, huh? Will he need corrective surgery?

LOL! It sure looks like it!

55 posted on 06/15/2002 8:50:27 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: sneakypete
Wrong. She is only average looking and seems to have no talent at all.

Whoa... I can't speak to the talent question, but I've met Lisa Marie Presley once (with no makeup) and saw her at a very small Alanis Morissette gig on another occasion. I've met plenty of celebs, and many fall short in person of what they look like on TV or in magazines.

Lisa Marie Presley is one of the most stunningly beautiful women you could ever hope to lay eyes on.




56 posted on 06/15/2002 9:03:47 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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57 posted on 06/15/2002 9:04:53 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: Orual
Thanks for the link. What odd balls. Thank God they have each other. Amazing Randi debunked Geller, right?
58 posted on 06/15/2002 9:10:25 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
It's clear what your values are: money and fame. Sure, I'd like to have money.

Those are not my values, but they are the values of most men. Most men devote the better part of their lives to making money, and spend most of their time either making money, thinking about how to make money, or on the material things that money buys.

So by my value system, I am smarter. If money and success are what it's all about to you, then likely nothing I say will have any effect on you whatsoever.

You may have better values, but that does not make you smarter. For your information, there is no correlation between how smart someone and their integrity.

By the way, you neglect to mention that Michael Jackson has a hell of a lot of people that hate him, and want to do grievous bodily harm to him. How 'smart' is it to attract psychos who would injure him or his family? That's pretty self-centered, actually. He's not Jesus, for Pete's sake!

Actually, if I remember right, Jesus had plenty of people that hated him, and wanted to do bodily harm to him. Again, there is no correlation between how smart someone is, and how many people hate you. Why are you criticizing someone who is the target of those that want to harm them? Blaming M.Jackson, Ronald Reagan, Jesus, John Kennedy as being self-centered, at fault, and for attracting others to do harm to them, shifts the blame away from the real evil doers, where the blame should lie.

I've been here for a year and a half, and you have provoked my most angry post ever (directed at a member, that is, as opposed to directed at Daschle or bin Laden). Maybe that notion will give you a sense of the power you seem to be in love with.

Your anger "directed at a member", is really a reflection of your own values and intelligence, not on mine.

I am not in love with money, fame, nor power, but I am informing you that millions of women are attracted to it, as well as being attracted to the physical appearance of M.Jackson.

The fact that you chose to get angry at me for just merely "telling" you of that fact, tells me of your true intelligence, your fairness, and your own personal values, or lack of. Maybe if you were smarter, you would instead be angry at the millions of women that are attracted to the M.Jackson image, and not on those that just inform you of it.

At least M.Jackson is making no secret of what he is doing to get what he wants. Anyone can plainly see what he has done to successfully get the huge following that he has. I knew Madonna, and her public image is also just as fakey as M.Jackson's, but she also got what she wanted thru that image. Their goal was to get money and fame, and yes, they were "smarter" than most people, since they were more successful at achieving their goals.

If you really were smart, you would search yourself to find out why you directed anger at me for pointing out the obvious. I can honestly tell you that I personally had nothing to do with how M.Jackson changed his appearance. I am not responsible at all. I also never gave him any money, nor did any of my relatives ever buy any M.Jackson material.

Perhaps, you should first find out if there are any females in your family, or among your own circle of friends and co-workers, that have ever bought any M.Jackson cd or recording, for themselves, or their daughters. Or are you afraid of WHO?? is REALLY supporting M.Jackson? It might surprise you.

59 posted on 06/15/2002 9:11:24 AM PDT by waterstraat
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To: Sabertooth
Whoa... I can't speak to the talent question, but I've met Lisa Marie Presley once (with no makeup) and saw her at a very small Alanis Morissette gig on another occasion. I've met plenty of celebs, and many fall short in person of what they look like on TV or in magazines. Lisa Marie Presley is one of the most stunningly beautiful women you could ever hope to lay eyes on.

You are very right!!! I am also glad that you are honest enough to say so.

Lisa is good looking, she has mucho money, she is the only child of Elvis Presley, she owns many Elvis items, she has fame, she has a nice house, she has friends and connections that are very powerful.

Although some won't admit it, I can tell everyone that there are many many many men who would want to be with her. There are very few men who would not call her back if she wanted to get friendly with someone.

60 posted on 06/15/2002 9:18:14 AM PDT by waterstraat
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