Jose Padilla as John Doe #2 theory gains as ties to Benevolence International are uncovered

CNN via whoisjohndoe2.com ^ | June 15, 2002 | John Berger

[spycatcher]

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BREAKING NEWS: Padilla Associate Nabbed By Feds In Florida, Had Ties To Benevolence International Foundation

If you've plodded through the Padiila-BIF-Terry Nichols stories (listed below) patiently, wading through the tedious speculation, wishing a real connection would emerge, well, your wait has ended! The feds have nabbed the missing link between the Benevolence International Foundation and Jose Padilla!

Who is John Doe #2 news and information clearinghouse

CNN - Feds arrest man linked to 'dirty bomb' suspect

[spycatcher]

Nice to see FReepers commended for the early work on making this connection. Previous threads and my comments on giving equal credit to Free Republic gumshoes... linked here

[Commander8]

I heard people talking about it on Michael Savage a couple days ago.

[JulieRNR21]

BTTT

[Andy from Beaverton]

[Fish out of Water]

fyi

[spycatcher]

Check out the Padilla "police sketch" posted on the FR link above. Pretty wild when you see his face as a sketch.

[Texaggie79]

Where is Michael Rivero when you need him.................

[spycatcher]

I guess the connections between Terry Nichols and Benevolence International now become the weakest link to firm up. The evidence of McVeigh's personal links to Iraqis are seen as strong in the Defense Dept.

Too bad the FBI didn't do their job in 95 when the trail was hot.

[Arkinsaw]

ping

[My Favorite Headache]

I love this. I really do. Because now we can stop all of the right wing did OKC Bombing crap...and start pinning to who financed it and was really behind it. When the first comparison came out on this...I said yep...there you have it. This is rich...VERY rich. Excellent work guys!

[Lady Jag]

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[spycatcher]

Berger is a blogger who created whoisjohndoe2.com because he's dived into this story, and the name of his blog is offensive to some.

[VA Advogado]

The answer will be simple to come by if the feds just tell us if Padilla was in jail during the OKC bombing.

[Mo1]

Check out the Padilla "police sketch" posted on the FR link above. Pretty wild when you see his face as a sketch

I just showed those pictures to my hubby and he said the drawlings look just like the guy

Then I took him the drawling was of John Doe #2 ..

The hubby's eyes just popped wide open

[Husker24]

The only flaw in this is that if I remember correctly John Doe #2 was described as a white guy. If youve seen Jose Padillas color pic. than you can obviously tell he isnt white. Other than that, he looks like a dead ringer.

[FReepaholic]

>>...Too bad the FBI didn't do their job in 95 when the trail was hot...<<

I'm not so sure that they didn't do their job.

I firmly believe that Clinton did not want to persue Middle Eastern terrorists throughout his terms. Perhaps they contributed to the DNC.

Clinton used the OKC bombing to further his own agenda. I'm sure he deiliberatley had the FBI suppress evidence of any ME connection.

[spycatcher]

Forget Rivero, we really need to get Mark Fuhrman on the case!

[Lady Jag]

Thank you. What's a blog or blogger?

[kimosabe31]

bump

[spycatcher]

From what I've been reading the John Doe #2 description was changed to being a white guy despite eyewitnesses saying otherwise. Once Reno got enough white guys in custody, then it was said JD2 never existed at all, and right-wingers and talk radio were the new enemy.

Same politics behind the new Clancy movie alterations

[Risky Schemer]

You have Freepmail.

[CIBvet]

No ... absolutely cannot be true ... because our loyal and honest Federal Bureau of Investigation and ALL the rest of our loyal Law Enforcement Agencies and assorted Federal Government BureaucRATS assured us that ONLY Timothy McVeigh and perhaps Terry Nichols were the ones guilty of blowing up that Federal Building in OKC.

Now WHY would ALL of them repeatedly tell the citizens of the United States such a BIG LIE ?? ... over and over and over and over ad infinim ???

Come on now, it's time to move on ... we've already executed the single WHITE SUPREMICIST MILITIA NUTCASE responsible ... let's just move along now and quit dredging up these cock-a-mamey, black-heli-conspiracies.

Next thing you know you'll be wanting to ask GW a bunch of tough questions about all those Fundamentalist wacko women and children the Feds and military viciously gassed and incinerated down in Waco, WHILE HE SAT IN THE GOVERNORS MANSION JUST DOWN THE ROAD, MUTE..

[VA Advogado]

So how is the OKC bombing tied to Benevolence International? You're still missing one link.

[Dog]

I just found this ....you all might want to spend a few minutes reading this...

Database

Skim down and read closely the April 5-11 LA Weekly and the April 19 Insight Online article...

[rwfromkansas]

I noticed the OKBIC website also noticed a similarity.

[Risky Schemer]

Yep, this would be hot. Everyone gets a little burned -- enough embarrassment to go around, both sides of the aisle. If the connection is valid, wouldn't be surprised to see this one kivvered up right quick.

Who knows, maybe it's why the case is being handled the way it is -- the connection is already well known on the inside.

[VA Advogado]

Got any information on:

www.whoisjohnhuang2.com

[Excuse_My_Bellicosity]

Thanks for posting the pics. Interesting "coincidence", eh?

[rwfromkansas]

What is Benevolence International and how is it connected to OKC?

[mrustow]

I have a confession to make. Jose Padilla cannot be John Doe #2, because ... I am John Doe #2!

[swheats]

Furhman's next book? "Murder From the Middle East"

[spycatcher]

A blogger is usually an individual writing a personal journal with links to news, etc, but that's overly simplified.

Mass media beware: the bloggers

All the News That's Fit to Blog

[Lady Jag]

That would be John Wayne.

[SpottedBeaver]

Here is another very interesting ping!

[spycatcher]

Great title! Fuhrman's next book is set to blow the Vince Foster case wide open, as he did the Martha Moxley case.

[Lady Jag]

Thanks, those were informative links. Here's a snip:

"Bloggers (from the words "Web log") write personal online diaries and commentaries. The best bloggers weigh in on social and political issues, report nuggets of information that the national media miss or suppress, and provide links to other bloggers with something sharp to say. Subjects that the mainstream press is skittish about..."

[Fred Mertz]

I don't see solid linkage here. Color me skeptical.

[Donald Stone]

You are right about that !!!

Ask OKC Submariner to post the statement made by the jury forewoman at the end of Nichols trial about the conduct of the FBI.

Too bad the FBI didn't do their job in 95 when the trail was hot.

[ValerieUSA]

I remember John Doe #2 being described as possibly someone with a mixed caucasian/Filippino ancestry or another white/brown combination. I don't recall him being described as white.

[Mike4Freedom]

Next thing you know you'll be wanting to ask GW a bunch of tough questions about all those Fundamentalist wacko women and children the Feds and military viciously gassed and incinerated down in Waco, WHILE HE SAT IN THE GOVERNORS MANSION JUST DOWN THE ROAD, MUTE..

Sorry but GWB was NOT the gov of Texas in 1993. It was a Dem named Ann Richards who permitted the Feds to use National Guard tanks in violation of Posse Comitatus by falsifying a drug connection that wasn't.

[swheats]

If only it would bring down the Clinton/Clinton organization. Kennedy thought he would never be caught.

It's good to see Furhman is a better investigator than an expert witness.

[spycatcher]

From the links on whoisjohndoe2:

"The second BIF/Chicago connection concerns Wali Khan Amid Shah, alleged to be a "key participant" in a Philippines-based plot to bomb 12 U.S. airliners in 1994, among other plots. What's interested about Wali Khan is that, in addition to BIF links outlined in the court filings, he was also rumored to have met with Terry Nichols, who with Timothy McVeigh was convicted of having committed the OK bombing. This theory is proposed and expounded at length in what sounds like a rousingly paranoid literary outing called Others Unknown: Timothy McVeigh and the Oklahoma City Bombing Conspiracy."

Notice the book though is well-written not by a paranoid, but Timothy McVeigh's lawyer

[spycatcher]

see above post

[null and void]

How did it come to pass that "white supremisist" Timothy McVeigh had a Fillipina wife?

Hint: Lots of Møøse Limbs in the Philipines)...

[backhoe]

For the curious & inquisitive-- here's what we have on the Oklahoma City Bombing...click the "OKCbombing" link to see it:

To find all articles tagged or indexed using OKCbombing, click below:
	click here >>>	OKCbombing	<<< click here
(To view all FR Bump Lists, click here)

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spycatcher, I mass emailed this to "the usual suspects"- let's see if we draw some traffic from it.

[HardStarboard]

>>>The only flaw in this is that if I remember correctly John Doe #2 was described as a white guy.<<<

My recollection is that he was described (at the time of the OKC bombing) as a darker skinned, swarthy individual of either hispanic or middle eastern appearance.

Not making any bets as to which of us is right on this one - but my recollection is pretty strong.

Anyone else out there remember how it came down then?

[TomGuy]

Next thing you know you'll be wanting to ask GW a bunch of tough questions about all those Fundamentalist wacko women and children the Feds and military viciously gassed and incinerated down in Waco, WHILE HE SAT IN THE GOVERNORS MANSION JUST DOWN THE ROAD, MUTE..

Your facts are a bit skewed. The Waco event happened April, 1993. Ann Richards (Dem) was Governor of Texas. GW Bush was not elected governor until November 1994.

[spycatcher]

I think the Fillipina was a "mail order bride" of Nichols not McVeigh. Notice that all his strange trips to the Phillipines after getting married *didn't* include his wife.