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Jose Padilla as John Doe #2 theory gains as ties to Benevolence International are uncovered
CNN via whoisjohndoe2.com ^ | June 15, 2002 | John Berger

Posted on 06/15/2002 11:59:45 AM PDT by spycatcher

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BREAKING NEWS: Padilla Associate Nabbed By Feds In Florida, Had Ties To Benevolence International Foundation

If you've plodded through the Padiila-BIF-Terry Nichols stories (listed below) patiently, wading through the tedious speculation, wishing a real connection would emerge, well, your wait has ended! The feds have nabbed the missing link between the Benevolence International Foundation and Jose Padilla!

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To: HardStarboard
Ambrose Evans-Pritchard made the case that Michael Brescia could well have been John Doe #2 in his book "The Secret Life of Bill Clinton".

Brescia was an olive-skinned Italian-American from Philly. Anyone know what ever happened to that theory?

151 posted on 06/16/2002 4:55:35 AM PDT by Victor
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To: KirkandBurke
Ambrose also made a case for Michael Brescia as JD#2....who would fit the description even better than Andy the German.
152 posted on 06/16/2002 5:01:43 AM PDT by Victor
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To: ccmay
The best example, and one of the most politically congenial from a FReeper's point of view, is Instapundit.

That's a FReeper, huh? I truly appreciate the info and am surprised that I hadn't caught on to blogging before. I've probably run into it and just didn't know what it was or that there was a term for it. So would that make Free Republic interbloggatory blogging?

153 posted on 06/16/2002 8:10:34 AM PDT by Lady Jag
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To: ccmay; sciencediet
Maybe we should have some permanent links on the front page to the best blogs for FReepers to check out. We need to roll with the times and not just change the graphics. It would lead to many more interesting articles to post.

A few more good blogs here...

The Corner on NRO

Right Wing News

Global News Watch

Little Green Footballs

You never know what nuggets you'll find. Like I just found Justin Raimondo reviewing his news sites: Take his ratings with a large grain of salt, but he sort of praises Free Republic...

"FreeRepublic.com is the original conservative news and discussion site, and it is still the biggest. But much of the elan is gone, and I fear that dear old FR shows definite signs of senility. Gone are the free-wheeling ways of the 90s, when Jim Robinson's virtual community of conservatives was, paradoxically, an oasis of freethinking revolutionary thought on the internet – and downright fun. Also addictive. But the post-9/11 FR is quite a different place. The free discussion of ideas that operated as a general rule – the exception being personal attacks leveled at founder, usually posted by a group of nutballs whose goal in life seemed to be harassing Robinson – has been replaced by a regime of "administrative monitors" who censor individual comments and often pull entire threads.

"However, the endearing chaos of the place is intact: FR is still very freewheeling within certain parameters (the new rules are enforced unevenly, if at all). A lot of the more independent souls among the longtime Freepers (as they call themselves) refuse to be driven away by an influx of nutballs and an awful lot of PWAs – posters with an agenda, usually involving a foreign country. We aren't just talking about Israel here, whose partisans actively campaign to ban anyone and anything deemed "anti-Semitic" (i.e. anti-Ariel Sharon) – India, believe it or not, also has its little amen corner on FR, which actively campaigns to push the line put out by New Delhi: Pakistan is supporting terrorism, all Ay-rabs are evil, and what is needed is an Indo-American alliance against the whole of Islam.

"The site has also undergone a redesign, one which I'm not sure I understand, but which somehow seems like a watered-down, albeit zooped-up, version of Classic FR. I may be an old traditionalist stick-in-the-mud, but, then again, I've never denied being a reactionary of the blackest sort: in any case, I usually hate redesigns, and so, I suspect, does everybody else but the designers themselves: that's one reason for Drudge's enduring success. He's never changed the stark Courier typeface that looks pecked out on an old Royal. It goes with the hat."

154 posted on 06/16/2002 8:47:19 AM PDT by spycatcher
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To: spycatcher
Sorry, last para:

"..Yes, change is usually evil: or, at least, it is nowadays. I know another change I'm not looking forward to, and that is the demise of FR, where they've been posting material from Antiwar.com since before the Kosovo war. For news junkies like me, FR is still one of the best sources on the internet. Not only that, but Jim Robinson is still being pursued relentlessly by the evil Los Angeles Times and the quintessence of evil, otherwise known as the Washington Post, for alleged "copyright infringement" – because FR members post articles from these publications and then discuss them online. But a simple search for articles from both newspapers posted, in their entirety, on other sites – such as the left-liberal Commondreams.org – turns up thousands of similar violations of their precious copyright. So why pick on FreeRepublic.com and its wheelchair-bound founder, suing them for millions and trying to put them out of business? Check out the Free Republic Defense Fund – because your favorite site could be next."

He has a review of Lucianne's site too

155 posted on 06/16/2002 8:51:15 AM PDT by spycatcher
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To: spycatcher
Time Magazine has chose Padilla as person of the week.
156 posted on 06/16/2002 9:09:24 AM PDT by TexKat
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To: spycatcher
Wow. You have no idea what you are doing to a news and reading addict. This is fascinating. I have had to make a new Favorites folder, Blogs, and bookmarked those sites you listed.

I don't think I'd be the only one who would appreciate it if you might make it separate post so we can discuss it and learn more about Blogs?

157 posted on 06/16/2002 9:33:39 AM PDT by Lady Jag
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To: spycatcher;Joe Montana;Okc Submariner;Uncle Bill;rdavis84
Bump !!!!
158 posted on 06/16/2002 10:54:20 AM PDT by Donald Stone
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To: spycatcher
Actually, the FBI has been far from "incompetent". They've been more along the lines of galactically stupid and bordering on treasonous in their Keystone Kops inability to follow accepted investigative procedures and their willingness to submit to political whoring for their administrative masters.

McVeigh isn't the only OKC player that should have been executed. Some of them are still in FBI drag.

159 posted on 06/16/2002 11:00:52 AM PDT by Thumper1960
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To: Andy from Beaverton
It's him awright
160 posted on 06/16/2002 12:03:41 PM PDT by bert
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To: spycatcher
I've read thru 159 posts and most seem to say it's possible. Very few insist they know for sure it's true. What bothers me though, is that I am seeing a lot of posts from people who I don't recognize, name calling, and insisting this isn't the guy. Why? Reminds me of the anthrax "nothing here", tune awhile back. CD
161 posted on 06/16/2002 12:11:36 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Texaggie79
He is not allowed to post here because he knows what really happened?
162 posted on 06/16/2002 12:21:12 PM PDT by carenot
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To: carenot
Him and Elvis both....
163 posted on 06/16/2002 12:25:32 PM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: nunya bidness,Dixie Mom,PhiKapMom,archy,lawdog,glorygirl,spycatcher,MizSterious,thinden,aristeide
With respect ot reply #144:

Could Padilla have been involved? Yes, I have not ruled him out

Padilla may have helped McVeigh and Nichols. THey seemed to have a lot of help in Kansas and in Oklahoma before the bombing and Padilla could have been one of the helpers.

The man seen by three witnesses (interviewed by the FBI and shown sketches) with Nichols and a Ryder truck in Newkirk Oklahoma on April 18, 1995 had curly black hair and looked Middle Eastern like the John Doe sketch with the baseball hat. The Iraqi Al Hussain Hussain has curly black hair and the John Doe in Newkirk looked like Huassaini.

Was the Iraqi Al Hussaini involved at the scene with McVeigh? Absolutely yes. THe best witness for Hussain was Kay Heron who saw Hussaini in the fleeing late model Brown Chevy truck the subject of the FBI APB. Heron revealed details of Hussaini that no one else knew until they saw him up close and these details match John Doe #2 including a special tatoo and curly black hair. William Jasper of the New American interviewed Heron and I met and spoke with her at her interview in 1995.

Hussaini was again seen up close by a KFORTV reporter and her attorneys when he came to OKC in 1997-1998 to attend a deposition as part of Hussainis lawsuit against a KFORTV reporter. Hussaini once again as seen at the deposition fit the description of the man seen by Kay Heron on April 19, 1995 fleeing the scene. THe same man Hussaini had been seen with McVeigh in OKC with McVeigh prior to the bombing as well according to at least three KFORTV witnesses. and KFORTV broadcasts.

THe FBI and District attorney knew Hussaini was in town and never tried to question him even though Heron was an excellent FBI witness. Hussaini's attroney, Gary Richardson, was Governor Frank Keatings law partner and associate in Tulsa for HUD properties. Richardson is now running for governor of Oklahoma.

164 posted on 06/16/2002 12:48:54 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: river rat,Betty Jo,Plummz,B4Ranch,Gary Aldrich,roughrider,Squantos
Please see reply #164
165 posted on 06/16/2002 12:54:46 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: Mo1
I just showed those pictures to my hubby and he said the drawlings look just like the guy
Then I took him the drawling was of John Doe #2 ..
The hubby's eyes just popped wide open

show hubby this


166 posted on 06/16/2002 1:09:39 PM PDT by mv1
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To: CIBvet
" WHILE HE SAT IN THE GOVERNORS MANSION JUST DOWN THE ROAD, MUTE.."

Uh huh... well it was Ann Richards. A LIBERAL DEMOCRAT!

Sorry, the Blame GW for everything from time immemorial won't work for this one.

And BTW, I don't recall the PRESIDENT, William Jefferson Clinton or his Co President/wife saying anything while little children, men and women burned to death in that raging inferno, do you? All I recall is that the volunteer fire departments were not allowed near the fire when it might have helped. They were forced to wait until nothing was left but ashes.

167 posted on 06/16/2002 1:11:33 PM PDT by IVote2
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To: Honorary Serb
We don't just have the name of Project Bojinka in Serbocroatian. We also have that notebook page found in Afghanistan entitled "Explosivija za Oklahomu" with explosive formulas including nitroglycerin.
168 posted on 06/16/2002 3:12:15 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: PeaceBeWithYou; fred mertz; plummz; hchutch; browardchad; the magical mischief tour; okcsubmariner
In June 1994, Jose Padilla officially became known as Ibrahim, following a hearing before Broward Circuit Judge John A. Frusciante at the courthouse in Fort Lauderdale. Padilla prayed and studied at Darul Uloom from 1995 to 1997.

A court document showing Padilla was in Florida in June '94. But still only the word of the head of the Darul Uloom mosque on where Padilla was in '95.

169 posted on 06/16/2002 3:19:59 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: aristeides
We don't just have the name of Project Bojinka in Serbocroatian. We also have that notebook page found in Afghanistan entitled "Explosivija za Oklahomu" with explosive formulas including nitroglycerin.

Uh-oh!!!!

170 posted on 06/16/2002 4:56:26 PM PDT by Honorary Serb
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To: Andy from Beaverton
I think there may be a connection. Always wondered why they were in such a hurry to kill McVeigh. Heard it is hot up your way today. My roomie is from Vernonia. Wide spot in a narrow road.
171 posted on 06/16/2002 5:08:34 PM PDT by willyone
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To: OKCSubmariner
I knew it wasn't a white guy that was John Doe #2! Odd you should mention Richardson -- I find him beneath my contempt for advertising on TV right after 9/11. I wrote him a nasty email and said that it was inappropriate and for him to be advertising so early in a campaign was beneath my contempt.

Well Richardson shows up for the Norman Christmas parade and moves to slow as to block the everyone from seeing the bands from the front. No cheers BTW as he went by.

I won't put my real opinion of Frank Keating on this forum but suffice it to say that I am not sorry to see him go and anyone associated with him! Not soon enough for me BTW! Interesting how this is all coming out!

172 posted on 06/16/2002 6:26:09 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: Texaggie79
>Where is Michael Rivero when you need him.................

Reality is 5 times stranger than anything MR can come up with, so he quit.

173 posted on 06/16/2002 8:37:36 PM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: Dialup Llama
He was banned.
174 posted on 06/16/2002 8:58:50 PM PDT by Plummz
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To: PhiKapMom,all
There is a article on FR somewhere about Frank Keating's brother's book that he wrote before OKC bombing, but was too similar to what actually happened, even to the point that the main character was Tom McVeigh. If you remember, please link.
175 posted on 06/16/2002 10:32:33 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: spycatcher
bump
176 posted on 06/16/2002 10:47:49 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: PhiKapMom
Governor Frank Keating is the second chief executive in Oklahoma history -- and the first Republican -- to win election to two consecutive terms. First elected in 1994 and re-elected by a landslide in 1998, Keating has been one of Oklahoma’s most reform-minded and active governors. Under his leadership, Oklahoma has become a true two-party state, a Right-to-Work state and has made significant progress in education reform, tax relief, roadbuilding, environmental protection, economic development and public safety. Beyond Oklahoma’s borders, Frank Keating is widely recognized as one of America’s most articulate and able political leaders. Born in St. Louis on February 10, 1944, Keating moved with his family to Tulsa before he was six months old. He graduated from Cascia Hall School in Tulsa and attended Georgetown University, where he completed a degree in history and served as student body president. He earned his law degree from the University of Oklahoma in 1969 and became a Special Agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, serving in west coast field offices in a variety of duties. Among his investigative targets were new left terrorists. Keating returned to Tulsa and became an assistant district attorney. In 1972 he was elected to the Oklahoma House of Representatives, and in 1974 he won a seat in the Oklahoma State Senate, where he served for seven years, ultimately rising to the position of minority leader. In 1981, President Ronald Reagan appointed Frank Keating as United States Attorney for the Northern District of Oklahoma. He was soon chosen chairman of all of the U. S. Attorneys, and in 1985 he was named Assistant Secretary of the Treasury, beginning seven years of Washington service that would make him the highest ranking Oklahoma in the Reagan and Bush administrations. Keating also held the positions of Associate Attorney General in the Department of Justice and General Counsel and Acting Deputy Secretary at the Department of Housing and Urban Development. In Washington, Keating oversaw the operations of virtually every federal law enforcement agency, including the Secret Service, U. S. Customs Service, ATF, the U. S. Marshals Service, the Federal Bureau of Prisons, the Immigration and Naturalization Service and all 94 U. S. Attorneys. He was also the American representative to Interpol and was chairman of the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Glynco, Georgia. At HUD, Keating joined Secretary Jack Kemp in cleaning up that troubled agency. Near the end of President George Bush’s administration in 1992, the President appointed Keating to the federal appeals bench, but partisan wrangling in Congress delayed his confirmation until after the 1992 election, when it was scuttled by the incoming Clinton administration. Keating then returned to Oklahoma and ran for Governor in 1994,
177 posted on 06/16/2002 10:51:56 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: PhiKapMom
Found it. Does anyone have a copy of this book. It was written in 1991 by Martin Keating, Governor Frank Keating's brother.

Government Editorial Source: http://www.devvy.com/keating_20010604.html Author: Devvy Kidd Posted on 06/20/2001 16:42:12 PDT by sirgawain

THE FINAL JIHAD: ANOTHER OKC BOMBING 'ODDITY' Devvy Kidd June 1, 2001

178 posted on 06/16/2002 11:39:46 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: TexKat
According to Amazon the published date is June 1996. I don't remember any OKC similarities or a character named Tom McVeigh either. But it did have a hijack plot similar to 9-11 in it. Perhaps the terrorist got the idea from the book.

Still is a good read. As good as Tom Clancy's stuff. Advise checking it out from a library as I did, unless it's in paperback now.

179 posted on 06/17/2002 2:42:45 AM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou
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To: Victor
I've only seen one poorly shot college photo of Brescia, so I'll have to take others at their word. He would have been fairly young, maybe 24, possibly as young as 22. Did anyone's description give an approximate age range?
180 posted on 06/17/2002 7:11:28 AM PDT by KirkandBurke
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To: SpottedBeaver
thanks for the PING!
181 posted on 06/17/2002 7:39:52 AM PDT by hockey d gal
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To: mv1; rodney king
I have to say that Strassmeier does look as much like the John Doe #2 sketch as Padilla. Of course, this does not indicate the absence of a coverup, but just points in a different direction.
182 posted on 06/17/2002 9:19:31 AM PDT by Stingray51
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To: spycatcher
The FBI was to busy hiding in the North woods watching weekend warriors to be concerned about REAL criminals. Remeber the Marching orders from the Evil Dums and the Things WH and Justice Dept, it's those VRWC nuts.
183 posted on 06/17/2002 9:23:38 AM PDT by marty60
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
In 1996 was the word Jihad very popular?
184 posted on 06/17/2002 10:52:23 AM PDT by TexKat
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To: TexKat
Usage in context of a "Holy War" is fairly common since the 1979 Iranian Revolution, more common after WTC-93. Historically it's as old as dirt, but the usage or (misusage I should say) in reference to "Holy War" began in 1979 with the radicals in Iran. Prior to that the meaning was "effort" or "effort to exhaustion(death)", usually in connection with Godly or Islamic pursuits.
185 posted on 06/17/2002 2:14:01 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou
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To: Sandy
Padilla does not look like the picture of JD2.

186 posted on 06/17/2002 7:03:06 PM PDT by Constitution Scholar
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To: mv1
Who are you kidding, it's not even close!
187 posted on 06/17/2002 7:06:21 PM PDT by Constitution Scholar
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To: TexKat;PhiKapMom
Great bio on Keating, and no doubt all true!

What isn't mentioned is his tendency to run his mouth without regard to facts or feelings. Examples are suggesting homicide to handle the teacher problem, calling teachers slugs, referring to a key state agency as "That hillock of patronage", etc., etc., etc.

Keating would quite likely have been in GWB's cabinet, perhaps even his VP running mate had it not been for his verbal diarreah. They used to call that "alligator mouth, hummingbird butt".

The other pubbie to hold the governors office twice, although not consecutively, was non other than Henry Bellmon, the senator who cast the deciding vote to return Panama to self rule.

188 posted on 06/17/2002 7:23:31 PM PDT by Don Carlos
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To: Don Carlos
You guys knew I meant "Panama Canal" right?
189 posted on 06/17/2002 7:26:59 PM PDT by Don Carlos
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To: spycatcher
How is Benevolence International in any way linked to Oklahoma City?

Stories link Padilla to Benevolence would guess, but where does any of this get linked to Oklahoma City or Nichols? Just don't see the logic.

190 posted on 06/17/2002 7:46:46 PM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins
Reportedly through Terry Nichols' terrorist contacts in the Phillipines
191 posted on 06/17/2002 7:53:19 PM PDT by spycatcher
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To: Don Carlos
Right on about Keating! No bio can adequately describe his mouth! Not impressed! And that is probably an understatement!
192 posted on 06/17/2002 8:01:51 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: TexKat
Keating's bio reads really well, but some of the things he has said as Governor are beneath anyone as Governor. He also took a large amount of money from a drug company CEO as gifts to his children's education at $100,000 a year. All of this costs him the VP (couldn't keep his mouth shut about the fact he was on the short list), the cabinet, or head of FBI which he probably would have been a natural for. He just doesn't know when to keep his mouth zipped!
193 posted on 06/17/2002 8:05:24 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: spycatcher
I never knew that Terry Nichols wife was named Lana Padilla, did you????
194 posted on 06/17/2002 8:12:55 PM PDT by MadelineZapeezda
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To: CIBvet
I believe that Ann Richards was the Governor of Texas when Waco happened. I believe it was very early in Clinton's firat term..like 1993..
195 posted on 06/17/2002 8:18:53 PM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: null and void
Terry Nichols had a Muslim Phillipino wife, NOT McVeigh.
196 posted on 06/17/2002 8:22:15 PM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: PhiKapMom
That is what I'm saying PhiKapMom.

The part of his bio that I copied and pasted, tells me he has an ax to grind. And I always wondered why he showed up and was so visible during the ballot recount in Florida. He just appeared to me to being overly self serving.

197 posted on 06/17/2002 8:42:42 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: TexKat
Exactly! I never could figure him out in FL either. Now as Governor he is going to head this Catholic Panel on pedafiles. He is still Governor of my State and I don't see where heading this Group comes under the heading of what he is paid for as Governor.

He is wearing "I am Catholic" too much IMHO when he is on our news the last few days! I would have liked to see him put that much effort into getting us less taxes for one thing! These last few years have been really strange with him as Governor!

198 posted on 06/17/2002 8:50:05 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: Ann Archy
It happened in the April of 1993 after clinton took office and Ma Richards was definitely the Governor of Texas!
199 posted on 06/17/2002 8:52:23 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: Ann Archy
Terry Nichols had a Muslim Phillipino wife, NOT McVeigh.

Are you sure she was Muslim? Most of those Filipino mail order brides are Catholic, not Muslim.

200 posted on 06/17/2002 8:55:47 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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