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Liberty Is Overrated--Safety Should Be Our First Concern*
Ever Vigilant ^ | 06-19-2002 | Lee R. Shelton IV

Posted on 06/19/2002 11:33:59 AM PDT by sheltonmac

Those worrying about the erosion of liberty in this time of crisis often quote Benjamin Franklin, who said, "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." The problem with this advice is that it is well over two centuries old, and no one back then could have imagined the dangers we face today. We are at war and should be expected to sacrifice some liberty for safety.

According to a national poll taken recently by the Institute for Social Research at the University of Michigan, seven out of 10 Americans said that they would give up at least some of their civil liberties to improve security. That shouldn't be at all surprising considering the magnitude of the terrorist threat to our nation as well as the rest of the free world.

The same poll showed that about 90 percent of Americans favor having more police assigned to patrol public areas. 70 percent believe that there should be a law requiring adults to carry a national ID card with their photograph and Social Security number, and roughly half support the idea of random police searches in public places.

It is clear that most of America is behind the president in his effort to eradicate terrorism. The few individuals who are not seem to be those who are clinging too tightly to their precious Constitution. They refuse to give up even the smallest right, when doing so might mean the difference between victory and defeat.

These people, whether they realize it or not, are the terrorists' strongest allies in this war. Any attempt to detract from the plans of our president and his administration is tantamount to treason. If they can't learn the concept of "go along to get along," they need to be silenced. This war needs to be won-no matter what the cost.

When terrorists attacked our shores on Sept. 11, the fear-mongers immediately launched into their tirades against U.S. foreign policy, particularly our support for Israel. They talked about how the actions of our "empire" fueled the hatred of Islamic fundamentalists and how we should adopt a more isolationist position on global matters. All this, of course, is nonsense.

While the United States may have been able to avoid foreign entanglements at one time, we must realize that this is the 21st Century. This is not the world our forefathers knew. The Constitution may have been good enough for a fledgling nation 200 years ago, but we must evolve beyond such a narrow worldview if we hope to remain a global superpower.

Ronald Reagan once called us to be a "city on a hill," a place upon which all eyes of the world would be cast. If we allow a dusty old document like the Constitution to prevent us from doing what is necessary, we shall lose the respect of those who look to our nation as an example of greatness. No, we must maintain our lofty position in the world, and if that means behaving like an empire, so be it. The only alternative would be to succumb to terrorism, and that cannot be an option.

We need to be more positive. We need to be more supportive of our government, especially now. The president should not be criticized for doing his duty as Commander in Chief. Yet, through it all, there are those who not only see the glass of liberty as half-empty, they see it as the wrong beverage. This unpatriotic attitude was evident when President Bush signed the Patriot Act into law.

I feel I should point out that when President Bush signed the Patriot Act, he was doing what nearly half of all registered voters who actually bothered to vote elected him to do-lead. The people of this nation wanted a leader with an iron resolve and this president has shown that he is the man for the job. Rather than get behind the spirit of the Patriot Act, some disgruntled people would rather focus on the ambiguous aspects of the legislation and live in fear of the worst-case scenario.

As the poll above shows, this administration is merely doing the will of the people. Doing anything else would not bode well for the GOP this November. It would also hurt the president's chances of getting re-elected in 2004, and ensuring his re-election is absolutely vital to winning this war on terror. No other politician has shown such dedication and strength of character. Honestly, I shudder to imagine where this country would be without President Bush at the helm.

To those who insist on holding firm to the Constitution and making the government's job harder than it has to be, let me remind you that WE ARE AT WAR. Get behind the president and show your support. All of your worries are unfounded. If history is any indication, every civil liberty you give up now will be promptly restored once this war is over. That's a promise.

Liberty is overrated. Safety is what counts during times of crisis. After all, how can liberty be enjoyed if one cannot feel safe?


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1 posted on 06/19/2002 11:33:59 AM PDT by sheltonmac
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BUMP (If there is any confusion, be sure to click on the source link.)
2 posted on 06/19/2002 11:35:44 AM PDT by sheltonmac
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To: sheltonmac
The problem with this advice is that it is well over two centuries old, and no one back then could have imagined the dangers we face today.

Life expectancy of 45. No antibiotics. Most of America was still In'jun country.

Somehow I think the above statement is completely erroneous.

3 posted on 06/19/2002 11:36:19 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: sheltonmac
You really need to put

BARF ALERT

in the title when you post things like this.

The fact of the matter is this, when the White House was listening to the countrys feelings on a National ID card it was quick to drop any consideration of such an ID because of the outpouring of resentment of even the thought. Thsi was just after the attack when fears ran higher than they do now. The numbers of supposed supporters are totally suspect.

4 posted on 06/19/2002 11:39:07 AM PDT by ICE-FLYER
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To: sheltonmac
If you love the constitution, you are with the terrorists!
5 posted on 06/19/2002 11:39:07 AM PDT by dead
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To: dead
If you love the constitution, you are with the terrorists!

Are you sure this is what you wnated to say???

6 posted on 06/19/2002 11:40:16 AM PDT by ICE-FLYER
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To: sheltonmac
""Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." The problem with this advice is that it is well over two centuries old, and no one back then could have imagined the dangers we face today."

Like we didn't face some of these problems in the War of 1812, the French Indian War, the Mexican American War, WWII.

I think I'll stick with Franklin.

7 posted on 06/19/2002 11:40:42 AM PDT by Kerberos
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To: dead
If you have any privacy!? The terrorists have won!
8 posted on 06/19/2002 11:41:30 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: sheltonmac
Liberty is overrated. Safety is what counts during times of crisis. After all, how can liberty be enjoyed if one cannot feel safe.

Unfortuantely, there are plenty of people who think exactly this way, and we've been there for a long time now.

9 posted on 06/19/2002 11:41:56 AM PDT by Slainte
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To: Kerberos
I think I'll stick with Franklin.

I am with you on this. After all, around the founding it would have been much much easier to commit crime or terror. No real safeguards in place. Heck it was not too long ago you were able to knock on the door of the White House. Interesting that they say there is more danger now, there really is not, it is just more quickly transmitted to the masses that it has happened. I am sure President Lincoln would agree that he experienced terror as did others back then. Their life expectancy was very very low and anyone could have a gun. I say it is the same, just made more sensational.

10 posted on 06/19/2002 11:44:00 AM PDT by ICE-FLYER
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To: dead; Black Agnes
Nice to see that someone got it! ;-)
11 posted on 06/19/2002 11:44:13 AM PDT by sheltonmac
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To: sheltonmac
This tripe flies in the face of everything that made this nation great to start with: Rugged individualism. Instead, the author whines incessantly about "feeling safe" like some skinny little girl with a bruised knee. If you are waiting for the Feds to save your sorry a$$ like the rest of the sheeple, more power to ya - that way those of us who survive all this won't have to feed you. The only ones that they are going to save are themselves. There are a lot of us out here who don't want Uncle Sam and his long arm of the law supervising our every waking moment. We don't need more cops, we don't need another layer of government to pay for, all we need is for you sheeple to stay alert to stay alive. Quit breathing out of your mouth for a few minutes a day and pay attention to your suroundings. Report anything out of the ordinary. If we all did that, we'd be safe without having every other person in a police uniform. It's called doing your duty as an American - not waiting for someone else to take care of you. FOR ONCE.

This nation could use a little population management - and the author of this is one of those who deserve to be culled.

12 posted on 06/19/2002 11:44:58 AM PDT by 11B3
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To: sheltonmac
I would have more sympathy towards this argument is the government were doing everything they can to protect us without eroding our liberty first, but they aren't. They won't arm pilots. They won't put the military on the border. They won't crackdown on illegal immigration, and speed up deportations. They waste time strip searching grandmas from Iowa, while refusing to pay extra attention to Muslims for fear of being accused of "racial profiling". They won't tell the Saudis that we will not issue any more visas to Saudis as long as they pay suicide bombers, glorify them in their media, and promote Islamic extremism in American mosques. None of this would even require action by Congress, the Bush adminsration could do it on their own. Until they do I can't support further erosion of our freedom.
13 posted on 06/19/2002 11:47:20 AM PDT by Hugin
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To: sheltonmac
I was uncertain of the author’s intentions, until “If history is any indication, every civil liberty you give up now will be promptly restored…”

(though he could certainly find a few total knuckleheads around here who would agree with that statement)

15 posted on 06/19/2002 11:50:29 AM PDT by dead
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To: sheltonmac
"To those who insist on holding firm to the Constitution and making the government's job harder than it has to be, let me remind you that WE ARE AT WAR. Get behind the president and show your support. All of your worries are unfounded. If history is any indication, every civil liberty you give up now will be promptly restored once this war is over. That's a promise.

This has got to be one of most clever trolls I've seen, or the most idiotic screed on FR in recent years. If history is any indication, the constitutional rights sacrificed now WILL NOT BE RESTORED once this 'war' is over. In fact, barring an armed revolution, consitutional rights will likely never be restored.

So, you can go pound sand, Mr Shelton. You are no better than a Communist, if you're willing to give up all your rights for the sake of the mere promise of 'security'. I took an oath to the US Constitution, not to any president, or any political figure. If the US government abandons the US Constitution, then it will be my duty to fight it, as it has become an enemy to the Constitution.

16 posted on 06/19/2002 11:53:02 AM PDT by fogarty
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To: dead; sheltonmac
Of *course* all those nice little liberties will be restored...just as soon as we WIN WIN WIN! Let's ROLL!!!
17 posted on 06/19/2002 11:53:29 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: sheltonmac
"...After all, how can liberty be enjoyed if one cannot feel safe?..."

"Arbeit Macht Frei."

18 posted on 06/19/2002 11:53:41 AM PDT by gatex
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To: sheltonmac
LIBERTY IS OVERATED?!!!!!?!?!?!! An absolutely unfathomable statement. I am speechless!!
19 posted on 06/19/2002 11:53:43 AM PDT by PISANO
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To: sheltonmac
(If there is any confusion, be sure to click on the source link.)

Indeed. Nice source.

*NOTE: This is a satirical piece designed to expose the twisted logic of the "win at all costs" crowd, and the views expressed herein should not be confused with the actual beliefs of the author.

20 posted on 06/19/2002 11:54:49 AM PDT by SpottedBeaver
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