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"SUGAR DADDY" PRIEST CHARGED W/ LOOTING CHURCH FUNDS FOR GAY LOVER: Rev. Backs Principal In Lawsuit
NY DAILY NEWS ^ | 6/21/02 | MIKE CLAFFEY

Posted on 06/21/2002 7:15:35 AM PDT by Liz

Queens parochial school principal who angered Catholic Church leaders by accusing a priest of looting school coffers to pay for a gay lover has won the backing of a prominent local Catholic educator.

"Your courage in stopping this outrage, even at the risk to your own employment, has taught all of your pupils a lesson they will long remember," the Rev. Richard Van Houten, president of Archbishop Molloy High School in Jamaica, wrote to Barbara Samide.

Van Houten went so far as to hint in the letter that he would come to Samide's rescue if she is ousted as principal of St. Elizabeth School in Ozone Park.

"If we have an opening in your field, we would be honored to have a person of your integrity on our faculty," he wrote.

"Your actions — and the tragic inaction of the clergy — underscore the need to end the culture of secrecy and the lack of accountability in the church," he added.

Samide, 39, blew the lid off a simmering tale of alleged sin and theft of school funds in a lawsuit filed in Queens Supreme Court on Wednesday against Brooklyn Bishop Thomas Daily and the Diocese of Brooklyn, which also runs Catholic parishes in Queens.

The suit charges that the vicar for southern Queens, Msgr. James Spengler, repeatedly ignored Samide's complaints that the Rev. John Thompson stole thousands from St. Elizabeth School coffers and spent much of it on a 19-year-old male go-go dancer he met at a Greenwich Village nightclub.

In addition, the suit charges that Thompson used his church-issued American Express card to pay for trips to a Florida nudist resort and a weekly visit to a Village massage parlor.

Samide states in the suit that Thompson, 50, spoke openly about being a "sugar daddy" to a teenage "houseboy," and moved his lover into the St. Elizabeth rectory in January 2001.

Samide, who joined the school in September 2000, also charges that Thompson stole $14,000 in profits from a school candy drive.

Frank DeRosa, a spokesman for the Brooklyn Diocese, insisted yesterday that Samide's job is not in jeopardy, adding, "She is the principal of the school."

The Queens district attorney's office has empaneled a grand jury to investigate the charges of missing funds. Samide is expected to be the star witness before that panel.

DeRosa said the church will "fully comply" with prosecutors' request for the school's financial records.

Thompson resigned from the parish March 23 and is living with his family.


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1 posted on 06/21/2002 7:15:39 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz
I always heard priests led dull lives. Guess I was wrong!
2 posted on 06/21/2002 7:21:24 AM PDT by chance33_98
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To: Liz
Um, not wanting to risk a fourth straight day of getting flammed - I have "no comment".
3 posted on 06/21/2002 7:22:07 AM PDT by Psalm 73
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To: Liz
When the final chapter about this scandal is written, we are going to find that many of the most perverted freaks the human race has ever produced have spent the last 30 years functioning as Catholic priests.

4 posted on 06/21/2002 7:30:40 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Liz
Time for a good freep to Brother Van Houten:

Bro. Richard Van Houten, President
718 441-2100
president@molloyhs.org

Archbishop Molloy High School

5 posted on 06/21/2002 7:33:30 AM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: Liz
I'm speechless. Truly speechless. Doesn't happen often.
6 posted on 06/21/2002 7:39:43 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: *Catholic_list
ping
7 posted on 06/21/2002 7:39:53 AM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: Psalm 73
Oh, Psalm 73, I'm a Catholic and I say this deserves comment! What a nest of freaks that seems to be being uncovered - I'm sick of it! I defend the Church as an enduring institution but have always thought little of our feely-mcneely US Catholic bishops. It used to be only disappointment/anger at their flaccid policy edicts, but now this scandal has burned me up. They need the roof lifted off their house and the light of day shone into every dark corner. I'm only sorry that the poor parishoners are gong to have to foot the bill for the sins of their so-called leaders. I guess we need another St. Francis to inaugurate a second counter-Reformation.


8 posted on 06/21/2002 7:40:42 AM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: Puddleglum
Amen to that! I serve on the Pastoral Council of a parish whose pastor was just removed for sexual child abuse (the same day the bishops voted for the new policy). Despite the archdiocese's claim to openness, we were never told of the fact that he had an adopted teenage "son" living with him in the rectory of one of his previous parishes. Sounds like a red flag to me, and something we would certainly would have wanted to know while he was pastor. Yet the archdiocese still has not acknowledged this! I found out from a former parishoner who knew him at the time. And the archdiocese of Baltimore still claims that this was the first allegation against him.

There needs to be a thorough house cleaning. I really think the Pope needs to remove EVERY bishop in the U.S. and replace them with people he has personally interviewed.

9 posted on 06/21/2002 7:57:33 AM PDT by StonyMan451
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To: AbeLincoln
I really think the Pope needs to remove EVERY bishop in the U.S. and replace them with people he has personally interviewed

No pun intended but from the looks of the Pope he better get started!

10 posted on 06/21/2002 8:02:08 AM PDT by WKB
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To: Antoninus; sandyeggo; frogandtoad; saradippity; maryz; Jeff Chandler; ken5050; Slyfox; rose; ...
FYI ping
11 posted on 06/21/2002 8:24:01 AM PDT by Siobhan
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To: Siobhan
I am totally disgusted with the situation. The pervert priests need to be outed and booted.
12 posted on 06/21/2002 8:38:15 AM PDT by ThomasMore
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To: Liz
If I recall correctly, yes the Rev. Thompson resigned from St. Elizabeth. But according to an article I read yesterday, he is still a priest, and says Mass at a different parish. How corrupt, how foul. How could the Church do this?
13 posted on 06/21/2002 8:39:15 AM PDT by egarvue
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To: Siobhan
I e-mailed a thank you to Father Van Houten for his FAITHFILLED support of Elizabeth.
14 posted on 06/21/2002 8:53:11 AM PDT by AKA Elena
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To: egarvue
More on gay blade Rev Thompson:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/703777/posts

15 posted on 06/21/2002 8:56:39 AM PDT by Liz
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
Done! And what a fine school he is running. V's wife.
16 posted on 06/21/2002 9:01:06 AM PDT by ventana
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To: Siobhan
"Rev. John Thompson stole thousands from St. Elizabeth School coffers and spent much of it on a 19-year-old male go-go dancer he met at a Greenwich Village nightclub."

Ah...here we go...

They should investigate the fuzzy accounting at the colleges and universities next. This will not be the last such story. Sadly. Just imagine if Fr. Thompson had been a prof. at Fordham or Georgetown. The boy lover would have qualified for medical benefits.

17 posted on 06/21/2002 9:01:40 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: ThomasMore
If we continue to freep the good one's, if we pray for them, they will gain strength and grace as will we and they will be emboldened to action. And pray to St. Michael. V's wife.
18 posted on 06/21/2002 9:02:35 AM PDT by ventana
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Dear God, that IS! a mind bender. Sickening.V's wife.
19 posted on 06/21/2002 9:04:55 AM PDT by ventana
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To: ventana; Siobhan; ThomasMore; Puddleglum; SMEDLEYBUTLER
In addition, the suit charges that Thompson used his church-issued American Express card to pay for trips to a Florida nudist resort and a weekly visit to a Village massage parlor. Samide states in the suit that Thompson, 50, spoke openly about being a "sugar daddy" to a teenage "houseboy," and moved his lover into the St. Elizabeth rectory in January 2001.

I want to hear any bishop, among those who did so in Dallas, try to explain now how this has nothing to do with homosexual subculture.

20 posted on 06/21/2002 9:09:19 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
Done. Thank you for the address.
21 posted on 06/21/2002 9:20:34 AM PDT by american colleen
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To: AKA Elena
That's the ticket! Well done. We need to e-mail our support to Fr. Van Houten and any other priest who stands up against institutionalized evil.
22 posted on 06/21/2002 9:23:04 AM PDT by Siobhan
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Hey, all I can say is that their blinks are nothing short of Howlingly Mind-Bending Absurdities. ;^)
23 posted on 06/21/2002 10:02:29 AM PDT by ThomasMore
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To: ThomasMore
What AmChurch is dealing with then are "blink-and-wink" liberals?
24 posted on 06/21/2002 10:11:11 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: ventana
If we continue to freep the good one's, if we pray for them

Ain't it the truth, ventana!

TM

25 posted on 06/21/2002 10:12:14 AM PDT by ThomasMore
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To: Psalm 73
Millstone.

Neck.

Lake.

26 posted on 06/21/2002 10:13:08 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Oh yeh, "Blink and wink and definitely Pink" liberals.

I'll bet that Rev. John Thompson has his choir open the Sunday mass with...

"Let us greet our celebrant, Rev. Thompson, with our opening hymn, 'Hail Holy Queen'! (No irreverance to the BVM intended) LOL!
28 posted on 06/21/2002 10:27:31 AM PDT by ThomasMore
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To: Travis McGee
You forgot Sosthenize first! Acts 18:17
29 posted on 06/21/2002 10:29:21 AM PDT by ThomasMore
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To: madg
I can understand how upset you must be over this. And yes, longtime and loyal families in the neighborhood will be the grassroots voice that will eventually straighten out the mess at the school and parish.

I think most of us grieve with you and your family and friends who attend that parish and that school. What the priest did is evil. Plain and simple. It only reflects on him.

I for one will pray for the parish's perseverance in faith and apologize if any of this hurt you, for you and the good people of the parish are not the target of our anger. It's the bishops and priests, along with their complicity or apathy, that we are REALLY upset with.
30 posted on 06/21/2002 10:40:35 AM PDT by ThomasMore
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To: Puddleglum
"I guess we need another St. Francis to inaugurate a second counter-Reformation."

And another St.Dominic to clean up the Universities would be nice as well.

Meanwhile we stick to prayer power.
31 posted on 06/21/2002 10:40:57 AM PDT by Domestic Church
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To: madg
This scandal with Fr Thompson is not at all representative of Saint Elizabeth Parish.

Of course it isn't. No one is suggesting it is. No one is trying to castigate the good people of St Elizabeth.

(And I do not appreciate the sensationalistic title of this thread. People are hurting over this, there’s no need to make a circus out of it.)

The language used is excerpted directly from the news article (see below). Please try to see this from outside the parish level. This story elucidates a problem. Having knowledge about the serious situation in your parish may help to gain solutions. It's truly sad that it happened in your parish and that church members are hurting over it. Most readers would conclude the dedicated school principal is representative of parish members.

EXCERPT Samide states in the suit that Thompson, 50, spoke openly about being a "sugar daddy" to a teenage "houseboy," and moved his lover into the St. Elizabeth rectory in January 2001. Samide, who joined the school in September 2000, also charges that Thompson stole $14,000 in profits from a school candy drive.

32 posted on 06/21/2002 10:57:11 AM PDT by Liz
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
Sent Brother Van Houten a "Thank you" email and encourage others to do likewise. Encouraging the good and virtuous priests and religious to stand up and fight on the inside will go a long way toward ousting the evil ones.
33 posted on 06/21/2002 11:06:48 AM PDT by Antoninus
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To: ThomasMore
Wiping up after homosexuals is getting...tedious.
34 posted on 06/21/2002 12:20:45 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: madg
Thank you both for your kind words and sentiments. I'm sorry if I seemed oversensitive.

Your feelings are completely understandable. To have placed one's faith in someone unworthy of it, who utterly betrayed your trust, who co-opted so many good, trusting parishoners, is devastating.

36 posted on 06/21/2002 4:40:40 PM PDT by Liz
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To: madg
I can understand your feelings. I grew up in a neighborhood similar to St. Elizabeth's in Cicero, IL near Chicago.

Yesterday, on a thread about this situation someone posted a Google search on "Gay Friendly Parishes".

I looked up the Illinois parishes mentioned on the list, and what a shock I had. One gay, friendly chursh was in Berwyn, the town next to Cicero. When I grew up there, fifty years ago, these towns were full of working-class families who filled the Catholic churches every Sunday. We all loved and respected our pastors. And we received wonderful educations at the Catholic schools.

Berwyn is still working-class and Hispanics have moved in over the last ten years.

How could there be a gay, friendly church in this neighborhood? The pastor has to be gay, and word has spread through the gay church network.

37 posted on 06/21/2002 5:19:08 PM PDT by Atlantian
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To: Liz
This is shocking! Who did this Priest think he was? A U.S. Congressman (D-MA)?
38 posted on 06/21/2002 5:24:06 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: madg
Hi Neighbor,

I grew up in Howard Beach, right next door.
I'm a Our Lady of Grace/Stella Maris High girl.
My husband grew up in Ozone Park, but he went to Nativity.

I'm sorry for the pain this is causing you and the good
people of the parish.

St. Elizabeths will survive this and you can bet the
parishioners won't let something like this get by them
again.

You have a good friend in the Brother there.
39 posted on 06/21/2002 7:09:26 PM PDT by katnip
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To: madg
I'm sorry if I seemed oversensitive.

No oversensitivity detected. Just sadness & shock.

We were married in St. Elizabeth's. I always had a special feeling for that particular church. We're just shocked. Don't know why really.

Do these scandals ever end?

40 posted on 06/21/2002 7:27:57 PM PDT by Solon
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To: Plutarch
This is shocking! Who did this Priest think he was? A U.S. Congressman (D-MA)?

Bwaney is definitely a role model (barf).

41 posted on 06/22/2002 4:08:35 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz
When they throw this Rot out into the street they should handcuff Bishop Daily to him when he goes.

I really can't believe this story hasn't been acted on by the Idiots of the Church who are "in Charge"

DISGUSTING!,
42 posted on 06/22/2002 5:53:32 AM PDT by chatham
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To: Siobhan; agrace; Alberta's Child; Antoninus; BeforeISleep; Betteboop; bioprof; Black Agnes; ...
According to an article in THE WANDERER, April 25, 2002, the Bishop of Paterson, Frank J. Rodimer, sold off Pope Pius XII High School in Passaic, NJ, in order to pay off a family to settle a case of Child Abuse. He also kept on Fr. Lou Scurti who was arrested from being "caught in the act" with another priest from St. Luke's Church, Ho-Ho-Kus, NJ and a retired full-bird Colonel on Route 3 and Broad St., Clifton, NJ, a popular hangout for homosexuals. Fr. Lou kept his position as a teacher at DePaul High School, Wayne, NJ. He is now a chaplain at William Paterson University, Wayne, NJ. Can you imagine a Bishop allowing a practicing homosexual priest to remain teaching at a high school? What kind of Bishop does the Diocese of Paterson have? Fr. Lou, an artist, was also responsible for demolishing former/deceased Bishop Lawrence B. Casey's chapel shortly after Rodimer was named bishop. The chapel was magnificent, and Scurti removed all of the beautiful artwork, including framed paintings and frescoes depicting the crucifixion; the high altar was dismantled and replaced with a modern altar.

Catholic Campus Ministry Center of William Paterson University

Fr. Lou Scurti

Bishop Frank J. Rodimer, Diocese of Paterson

43 posted on 06/22/2002 9:36:18 AM PDT by Coleus
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To: Coleus

The devils themselves

44 posted on 06/22/2002 9:44:55 AM PDT by Siobhan
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To: chatham
"When they throw this Rot out into the street they should handcuff Bishop Daily to him when he goes. I really can't believe this story hasn't been acted on by the Idiots of the Church who are "in Charge" DISGUSTING!"

Chatham, you took the words right out of my mouth. But rest assured: Every one of those people who are exposed will be GUILTY. The Holy Spirit is heading up this little clean-up drive, so expect to see lots of names revealed. We beg the Lord every day in our prayers not to stop with this cleansing until it is finished to HIS satisfaction. Pray! Pray! Pray!

45 posted on 06/22/2002 9:55:06 AM PDT by redhead
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To: redhead
We beg the Lord every day in our prayers not to stop with this cleansing until it is finished to HIS satisfaction. Pray! Pray! Pray!

AMEN. AMEN. AMEN!

46 posted on 06/22/2002 10:12:42 AM PDT by Siobhan
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To: Coleus
...The chapel was magnificent, and Scurti removed all of the beautiful artwork, including framed paintings and frescoes depicting the crucifixion; the high altar was dismantled and replaced with a modern altar.

Sounds like what FORMER Archbishop Rembert Weakland did to St. John the Evangelist Cathedral in Milwaukee last summer BEFORE he was forced to resign in a similar case -- stealing $450,000 of dioscesan funds to pay for the silence of a gay lover. Weakland replaced the crucifix with a pipe organ as the center of attention for the worship space.

47 posted on 06/22/2002 10:45:33 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Siobhan; Liz
Thanks for the ping S. This priests should not be defrocked, but put in the slammer. This is beyond belief.
48 posted on 06/22/2002 12:31:59 PM PDT by Angelique
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To: Alberta's Child
many of the most perverted freaks the human race has ever produced have spent the last 30 years functioning as Catholic priests.

...but not ALL.

There's always Bill Clinton.

49 posted on 06/22/2002 12:50:07 PM PDT by ninenot
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To: RightOnline
Also happened about 5 years ago in California. However, the priest in question THERE did not steal the candy-drive proceeds.
50 posted on 06/22/2002 12:51:19 PM PDT by ninenot
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