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School Says Game of Tag Is Out
Fox News ^ | Thursday, June 20, 2002 | Anita Vogel

Posted on 06/21/2002 8:54:34 AM PDT by Jzen

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:34:00 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

SANTA MONICA A Santa Monica elementary school has banned the game of tag, once synonymous with youth and innocence, because they say it creates self-esteem issues among weaker and slower children.

"We had some children who were not playing 'it' appropriately. How do you differentiate between those that are playing correctly and those that aren't?" asked Franklin Elementary School Principal Pat Samarge.


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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: tag
Does this suprise anyone?
Tell me this, how are kids suppose to know what they are good at and what they suck at?
Part of life is figuring out your strengths and weaknesses and capitalizing on your strengths.
Geesh
1 posted on 06/21/2002 8:54:36 AM PDT by Jzen
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To: Jzen
On we go, marching down the road to national wimpdom.
2 posted on 06/21/2002 8:57:58 AM PDT by alpowolf
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To: Jzen
THAT'S what's wrong with me, it's all of the "tag" I played as a kid
- hey, I'm a victim, too. (I'm SOMEBODY now!)
3 posted on 06/21/2002 9:00:48 AM PDT by Psalm 73
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To: Jzen
"it creates self-esteem issues among weaker and slower children.">p? Weaker?, I was a weak little kid but could run fast!

Geez, we sure wouldn't want these poor kids to develop low self esteem.

4 posted on 06/21/2002 9:01:37 AM PDT by #1CTYankee
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To: Jzen
Next:
Ban tests and report cards because of self-esteem issues among stupid and lazy children
5 posted on 06/21/2002 9:05:27 AM PDT by Tai_Chung
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To: Jzen
Liberalism is not a political choice - it is a mental disorder.
6 posted on 06/21/2002 9:07:53 AM PDT by Digger
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To: Jzen
Make the weakest and slowest the standard, and pull back everyone else to match them. Liberalism in motion. Stories like this don't even shock me anymore. That fact I find shocking.
7 posted on 06/21/2002 9:13:22 AM PDT by SoDak
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To: #1CTYankee
And what happens to their fragile self esteem when they don't get the job they applied for later in life? Is THAT when they realize the world's an unfair place?
8 posted on 06/21/2002 9:13:53 AM PDT by Puppage
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To: Jzen
We are hell bent on raising the next generation to be the biggest bunch of pussies ever seen on Planet Earth. Pretty soon we'll be known as West France.
10 posted on 06/21/2002 9:20:01 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: Jzen
>>>>>"We had some children who were not playing 'it' appropriately. How do you differentiate between those that are playing correctly and those that aren't?" <<<<<<

Sheesh, how did the U.S. ever survive this long? Not playing appropriately either means there were bullies or there were weaklings. This is pretty darn simple...punish the bullies and/or tell the weaklings that this is the way life works. This self-esteem stuff has gone overboard.

11 posted on 06/21/2002 9:21:47 AM PDT by irish guard
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To: Jzen
Tag dodgeball school is miserable enough without banning all fun.
12 posted on 06/21/2002 9:22:54 AM PDT by weikel
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
LOL on the good side we'll be able to beat them up in our wheelchairs.
13 posted on 06/21/2002 9:24:56 AM PDT by weikel
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To: Jzen
...the big earthquake cannot come soon enough to CA...
14 posted on 06/21/2002 9:29:53 AM PDT by Fedupwithit
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Isn't this liberal mentality similar to the concept of a perfect race where no one is different from anyone else? So why shouldn't we be able to edit human genes and tweak things so that everyone is identical, or perfect?

If a person is never exposed to failure, why would he strive for anything?

Individuality is rare, but it rocks!
15 posted on 06/21/2002 9:31:20 AM PDT by Stevieboy
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To: Jzen
This isn't liberalism. I work with a lot of kids as a Scout leader. Because of that, I end up dealing with a lot of parents. My observation on this is that parental attitudes towards their precious little child is disconnected from politics or any other reality. They've just got blinders on about their kids, and what they need to go through to grow up. I've certainly seen conservative parents who feel that anything that upsets their kid is wrong as much as liberal ones.

I know that the general perception is that conservatives seem to prize personal responsibility more than liberals, but common sense tends to go out the window with some people when dealing with their children, regardless of their political philosophies.

You think having to deal with kids playing tag is tough? Try taking kids out into the woods, away from soap, water, and flush toilet facilities. Then let them work with knives, axes, saws, fires, ropes, etc. all day, have they eat their own cooking over a camp stove or wood fire, and finally have them sleep outdoors in much less comfortable circumstances than usual listening to animals they can't identify all night, and see what (forgive me, but in actual practice almost always) the mothers' reaction is when they hear the stories.

Johnny got pissed off because his self-esteem was damaged when he lost the tag game? Imagine what you run into when Johnny has got a knife in his pocket and decides he can use it to re-establish his self-esteem. Because for some reason he's been taught (and don't blame the schools, this begins at home) that he has an inalienable right to self-esteem. I spend a certain amount of time trying to teach kids a lesson that, conservative or liberal parent, no one seems to have taught them: self-esteem and respect of others is something to be earned, not automatically granted. HOO HAH! What a revelation. ESPECIALLY to the parents.

"You know, Mom, maybe the real reason why Johnny is having problems with the other kids in the Troop is because Johnny's an asshole. Maybe if he wasn't too damn good to wait his turn at the fun stuff, didn't hide or tell people to buzz off when it was time to wash the dishes, and didn't run his mouth constantly about how great he is and what dumb-asses the other kids are, the other kids would like him. Of course, this would require you to tell him to keep his mouth shut and do what he's told or you'll take away TV and video games for a month or so, which I doubt you've got the guts for."

The most delicate job I have in my unit is telling parents that their kids' problems are their kids' fault, not anyone elses. No one wants to hear it, and a lot of people fight it tooth and nail. Damn.

17 posted on 06/21/2002 9:33:05 AM PDT by RonF
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To: Psalm 73
I wonder if our new "victim status" qualifies us for some $$ to make us feel better about ourselves?
18 posted on 06/21/2002 9:34:47 AM PDT by mrsppmrxky
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To: mrsppmrxky
Pat Samarge should be freeped! For more info see:

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-000041149jun12.story

19 posted on 06/21/2002 9:38:50 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Jzen
"I want my child to know that he can have some freedom," Silver said. "I want my child to know he can play. I want my child to know that he can fall down and skin his knee." Good. Send him to a Scout Troop. If it's a good one (and you should make some calls and check this out before you sign him up), he'll go on, oh, say, a rock climbing campout. He'll come home filthy, with maybe a cut or two and some scratches, and maybe hungry. He'll be tired. But he'll have a big grin and tell you all about it.

Oh, yeah. We'll teach him how to belay. That means that while some other kid climbs 50 feet up the rocks, he'll hold the rope, and vice versa. So, while you kid still won't know the dictionary definitions of "Trustworthy" or "Loyal", he'll sure know what they mean.

20 posted on 06/21/2002 9:42:19 AM PDT by RonF
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To: RonF
I don't disagree but the main problem here is the administrators, like Principal Samarge, who are pushing this PC crap for ideological reasons. A lot of these folks are childless, products of Education Programs, which is hyper PC (and less rigorous) when compared to other academic disciplines.
21 posted on 06/21/2002 9:51:06 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: mrsppmrxky
"I wonder if our new "victim status" qualifies us for some $$ to make us feel better about ourselves?"

BINGO! We have a winner.
Let's call the law firm of: "Dewey, Cheatem, and How", and thier new addition Mo Money...

22 posted on 06/21/2002 9:56:11 AM PDT by Psalm 73
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To: Austin Willard Wright
I wonder about that. There are certainly enough parents that would complain to a school administration if they kid came home with a skinned knee or complaining that they never win a tag game.
23 posted on 06/21/2002 9:59:02 AM PDT by RonF
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To: Jzen
Her web page

Her picture:

Freep away.

24 posted on 06/21/2002 10:02:24 AM PDT by moyden
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To: Jzen
When tag is outlawed, only outlaws will play tag.

25 posted on 06/21/2002 10:12:15 AM PDT by Slainte
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To: RonF
AMEN!
26 posted on 06/21/2002 10:29:37 AM PDT by Constitution Scholar
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To: Puppage
And what happens to their fragile self esteem when they don't get the job they applied for later in life?

Simple. They go to the EEOC, which forces some company to hire them, then they take up space somewhere, and being incompetent, create more work for those around them. Sure, that's not fair to the compentent workers, but fairness is not really part of the liberal game plan. Who cares if you burden the productive members of society and destroy innocent lives and an entire economy with social engineering as long as you can feel good about yourself?

27 posted on 06/21/2002 10:40:22 AM PDT by Dakmar
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To: RonF
Parents have always been like that, at least to some extent. The big change in the last few decades is that the overprotective parent (once dismissed by society as the creator of "mama's boys") is now being reinforced and legitimized by PC administrators. In any case, the principal in this case apparently did not enact the ban because of parental complaints but for her own ideological reasons and because some children allegedly complained.
28 posted on 06/21/2002 10:48:57 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Dakmar
I figured it out. Just take a look at her, she was probably one of those people who was always tagged!! Btw, I never knew there were winners and losers in the game of tag. Just because you are tagged doesn't mean you are a loser. Strange.
29 posted on 06/21/2002 10:49:26 AM PDT by Jzen
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To: moyden
Freeping info: 310-828-2814 and webfran@smmusd.org
30 posted on 06/21/2002 10:55:07 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: moyden
Freeping info: 310-828-2814 and webfran@smmusd.org
31 posted on 06/21/2002 10:55:26 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Jzen
She's also going to ban marbles. It lowers the self-esteem of the students who, like her, have lost theirs.
32 posted on 06/21/2002 11:00:05 AM PDT by Dakmar
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To: Dakmar
If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times: ANYONE WHO SENDS THEIR KIDS TO PUBLIC SCHOOL SHOULD BE ARRESTED FOR CHILD ABUSE.
33 posted on 06/21/2002 11:03:55 AM PDT by huckfillary
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To: huckfillary
Ain't that the truth. Great screen name, BTW.
34 posted on 06/21/2002 11:11:48 AM PDT by Dakmar
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To: Dakmar
Great screen name, BTW.

Personally, it made me lose my appetite.

35 posted on 06/21/2002 11:52:42 AM PDT by inquest
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To: inquest
Freep them!
36 posted on 06/21/2002 12:22:13 PM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Jzen
"The principal said children playing tag suffered both physical and emotional injuries".

LOL, I'm not surprised about this,after all this is Liberal Santa Monica Calif.,which is nearly as Left as West Hollywood is,which is only a few miles away. It's a Liberal Haven (insert Throw-up sounds here).When they say the Left Coast, this is often the place of which people refer.

37 posted on 06/21/2002 3:43:32 PM PDT by Pagey
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To: Jzen
Shucks, I guess that means no more games of "Smear the Queer" either.
38 posted on 06/21/2002 3:54:54 PM PDT by PrivateIdaho
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