Posted on 06/29/2002 10:49:44 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow
I am a little reticent to say this, but I am not to thrilled about the FBI, but maybe better days are ahead. Let's be honest, if the "government" and the sum of its parts did not want the truth of this bombing to be known, you know it would not be known (by the majority of the people). I take it as a given that they have covered it up. The real mystery is......WHY have they felt the need to cover it up. (Throw in Flight 800 while you're at it..)
I don't pretend to know all things, there are hundreds of things going on that I know nothing about, it's just a given that this has been hidden,.......but, WHY?
David Schippers and Jayna seem to feel there there may be people on the inside who are doing the blocking. Duh! When Schippers was asked on the Quinn show last week if there was any positive movement in this matter, I think the word David used was ......"zilch". So we few (at FR and a few other places) get to have the feeling we know the truth, while at the same time, if you tell it to most of your friends, they think you're nuts for knowing. Great!
It took hundreds of people, millions of dollars and dozens of locations around the world to put this operation together. It was far more than the work of two or three amateur aircraft pilots and probably required the Iraqi government's participation to get it done.
That is NOT a testament to the overall competenacy and capability of the Arab or Muslim world - otherwise *WE*, in this hemisphere, would be the primitives in the world -
It is enough testament that the director of the FBI says another terror attack is "inevitable." A nuke detonated in New York harbor would devastate, if not destroy, the world's financial system.
So much for your Lanny Davis 'poof' ...
But yours is quite realistic, right? Because you say it is.
(Oh, and what is "anst?")
America's Fifth Column ... watch PBS documentary JIHAD! In America
Download 8 Mb zip file here (60 minute video)
I like where your heart is, but you're very wrong. We are NOT the people who count. This country is going to go nowhere positive if only a few people are knowledgable. It just serves to make us look like "conspiracy nuts". When the government (for whatever reasons) can successfully cover this up, there are bad days ahead.......maybe.
Then again, there may be "good" reasons for the coverup......but I doubt it. But we are NOT the people who count. The uninformed out there count, because their ignorance in these matters is a sign of a less-than-free press.....to say the least! And that is the worst thing. When John Gibson talks of these matters on FoxNews I think the ice is melting, but it's a huge chunk of ice.
You've also, no doubt read about the govt forensic experts who had no problem believing one bullet could go through a man, come out the other side, then turn around, change direction, change angles, go through another man's wrist bone, shatter the dense wrist bones completely, then still have enough force to imbed itself in his thigh, but then be recovered in pristine condition, with virtually no loss of material or distortion.
Maybe you've also read the slam-dunk, air-tight, conclusive evidence that Alfred Dreyfuss was a spy.
Pristinely said! Congrats. Point well made!
Yes that's her. She is great. She's right, and I do hope she is careful. She's got alot of guts!
The circle of people who instictively mutter "bullsh*t" when DanPeterRatherJennings talks is probably 100X bigger than it used to be. Big enough to influence the agenda on talk radio, for sure. Big enough that FNC, at least, makes a nod in our direction fairly regularly. Big enough that the NY Post seems at times to get their ideas from FR.
Cannistrao according to the FBI 302 said that the Saudi intell came in a call to Cannistrao the day of the OKC bombnng BUT several hours AFTER the bombing. Mike Johnson's version (if News MAx is correct in reporting on what Johnson said) says that Cannistrao was notified by Saudi intell BEFORE the OKC BOMBING. That is a huge and important difference in stories.
Now it is important to find out if the information came to Cannistraro/FBI from the Saudis before or after the OKC bombing.
All the FBI and ATF Agents were out of the building, however, there were some ATF admin personel in the building.
Yes ...
Has everyone forgotten about the theories that it was an inside job using cutter charges with ADVANCE NOTICE given to certain feds AS PROPOSED by noneother than michael rivero and ex-USAF bomb-dropper Gen Partin?
Yes ...
All true _Jim and it all fits into the reason for the cover up,IMHO
After examining the known facts, the most likely explanation that is consistent with what we know to be true is that the OKC bombing was an attempt by U.S. intelligence assets to infiltrate the Middle Eastern terrorist network that was and is at war with the U.S.
Numerous "domestic" terrorist" groups had been heavily infiltrated by federal operatives for years. Federal operatives inside these domestic organizations may have orchestrated an alliance with the Middle Eastern terrorist cells operating in the U.S. to gain intelligence information on Middle Eastern terrorists.
An intelligence asset attempting to infiltrate a terrorist organization would not gain the confidence of the leaders of the organization without killing people. In my opinion, a decision was made at the highest level to sacrifice the victims in Oklahoma in order for one or more intelligence operatives to move up in the terrorist network. In addition, by focusing blame on the people disturbed by Waco, Clinton could achieve a domestic political "victory" with the cover of a "legitimate" intelligence operation and invoke National Security to insure Congress and the Courts went along (as well as a Governor).
For folks in Washington, losing the Murrah Building may have been necessary to gain intelligence to prevent a potential attack on the political infrastructure. Please consider a "dirty" bomb exploding outside the Capitol Building during a State of the Union address and the effect on our elected leaders. This is the nightmare scenario our intelligence community is expected to defend against. I reject the sacrifice of innocent civilians for whatever the purpose and believe the operation should be exposed for what it was and those responsible should be held accountable. The failures that began in OKC resulted in the attack on 9-11.
"Luke Franey (a BATF agent who claimed he was in the building) was not in the building at the time of the blast, I know this for a fact, I saw him! I also saw full riot gear worn with rifles in hand, why? Don't make the mistake as I did and ask the wrong people."
From a letter by the first OKCOD officer in the building after the explosion,Terry Yeakey, before his murder.
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