GLSEN Decries Supreme Court Voucher Decision (Homosexuals do not want your kid in private school)

GLSEN ^ | 6/27/02 | Staff

[LarryLied]

NEW YORK (June 27, 2002) -- The Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network, or GLSEN, today expressed grave concern over the U. S. Supreme Court’s decision to uphold a Cleveland private-school voucher program. According to GLSEN, the Court’s ruling in Zelman v. Simmons-Harris undermines efforts to ensure the safety of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) students.

GLSEN noted that virtually all of the schools participating in the Cleveland program are religious and that such schools are routinely exempted from complying with laws that protect LGBT students from harassment and discrimination.

“The Court has affirmed a voucher program that allows badly needed public funds to be used in private schools that operate outside the purview of laws that protect students from harassment and discrimination,” said Executive Director Kevin Jennings, a former teacher.

“This decision will leave behind lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender students in environments where their safety cannot be guaranteed or properly monitored.”

GLSEN research indicates that there is indeed cause for concern about the treatment of LGBT students in schools comparable to those participating in the Cleveland program.

The GLSEN 2001 National School Climate Survey found that 95% of LGBT students in private religious schools frequently hear homophobic commentary, and 65% report feeling unsafe at school because of their sexual orientation or gender identity/expression. Consequently, 30% report skipping class because they feel unsafe due to anti-LGBT harassment and 22% report skipping entire days of school for the same reason.

“Taxpayer dollars should be spent on creating schools where every student can learn, “ Jennings added, “not diverted to schools with established track records of failing to do so and with no legal accountability for improving.”

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GLSEN is the largest national network of parents, students, educators and others working to create safe schools for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender students and staff. Visit www.glsen.org.

[LarryLied]

No agenda here. . .

[JAWs]

Well, they can send the gay students to the crummy public schools... Or found their own schools.

[Brad’s Gramma]

“This decision will leave behind lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender students in environments where their safety cannot be guaranteed or properly monitored.”

Like I told Hillary! on another thread...."Oh shut up". What a bunch of hooey. They'll be as safe as any other student. Whine, whine, whine.

[Tuscaloosa Goldfinch]

If they don't like what's taught at the private schools, they can always go to public school (just what they tell students who object on moral grounds to what's taught in public schools.)

[Illbay]

Y'know, these people have the media thoroughly zombie-fied. They will ALWAYS get good press from their media zombies, and efforts to combat the encroachment of perverted sexual dysfunction into the schools and homes of America will ALWAYS be portrayed by them as hate.

Yet most Americans polled say that homosexuality should NOT be "protected," should not be credited or advanced.

I just wonder if there isn't a HUGE backlash brewing. If it were up to me, I'd just like to see them crawl back into the closet, and leave the rest of us, healthy and well-balanced individuals alone. But they refuse; they insist on sticking it in our faces at every opportunity.

I don't know that a majority of Americans will ever accept homosexuality. It is a serious mental and emotional dysfunction; it is an illness. And we're just not into accepting illness as "just an alternative lifestyle." Some will, but most will not ever.

So if they continue to push and push, will the day come that the majority is just going to push back?

[Guillermo]

What is an "LGBT" student anyway?

(Please refrain from insulting my intelligence by telling me genetics makes them this way)

[CyberAnt]

You are exactly right - the gay's don't want you to be able to take your child to a private school because then they cannot get their claws into your child with their idiotic agenda of DIVERSITY!!

[RAT Patrol]

“This decision will leave behind lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender students in environments where their safety cannot be guaranteed or properly monitored.”

Excuse me but if they are left in the public schools they are "safe" according to their definition. Nothing says they MUST go to a religious school. Puh-leease. They just want to force their views on me wherever I go, or worse, on my kid wherever he goes.

[zarf]

I pledge allegence to the Flag of the Rainbow colors and to the BIG OL BUTT for which it stands......

[nicmarlo]

the Court’s ruling in Zelman v. Simmons-Harris undermines efforts to ensure the safety of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) students.

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Now they can't force their propaganda on all students for free.

[meenie]

There is no reason they cannot establish their own private schools. The only reason they would object to this is they would not be able to work their influence on the straight students.

[Kerberos]

"“This decision will leave behind lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender students in environments where their safety cannot be guaranteed or properly monitored.” "

Not really. If there are enough of them to justify making a profit, you can be sure that some group will create a school to cater to them. Perhaps the real problem here is that they realize that there are so few of them that no one will be able to establish a business that would be worth the effort.

At any rate I can see their school mascot now - The Flaming Reds, or some such name.

[umgud]

If genetics was the cause, they would have been bred out of existence in a few short generations. People who don't propagate, can't produce their replacements.

[LloydofDSS]

>>The GLSEN 2001 National School Climate Survey found that 95% of LGBT students in private religious schools frequently hear homophobic commentary, and 65% report feeling unsafe at school because of their sexual orientation or gender identity/expression. Consequently, 30% report skipping class because they feel unsafe due to anti-LGBT harassment and 22% report skipping entire days of school for the same reason<<

Without a comparison to public schools this data is useless. I would imagine at least 99% of all students hear "homophobic" comments at public schools. There is no comparison when it comes to violence in public schools vs. private schools. They are far far safer in any religious school.

[Orangedog]

“The Court has affirmed a voucher program that allows badly needed public funds to be used in private schools...

From what I can tell, the government schools are going to come out ahead on this financially. If I recall correctly, the vouchers that the Cleveland students received were for about $2300. The Cleveland schools spend MUCH more than that per student. They are going to come out ahead on per pupil expenditures. What this WILL do is reduce the need for more and more government teachers....teachers who pay dues to the NEA. The children will be fine. The real threat is to the union bosses and their agenda.

[Let's Roll]

That's exactly right and because if your child is in private school they cannot be recruited as easily either.

[concerned about politics]

“This decision will leave behind lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender students in environments where their safety cannot be guaranteed or properly monitored.”

They mean the public schools they've destroyed? Gee, too bad.
They can start their own schools of Satan worship.
They're angry they can't get their minions inside the Christian school doors. The cross hanging on the door stops them.

It's parents choice, remember? Individual rights?

[Semi Civil Servant]

They can recruit in the public schools under the guise of "teaching diversity" or whatever the phrase they're using today.

Most private schools won't let them set foot in the door. This is why they're mad. They want a steady supply of new "partners".

[usadave]

If it were up to me, I'd just like to see them crawl back into the closet, and leave the rest of us, healthy and well-balanced individuals alone.

I completely agree with you on this. I wish people would keep the fact that they have sexual deviations to themselves, just like they used to do in the good old days. If I'm working with somebody, I neither want to know nor am I interested in finding out that he or she is a homosexual. Why do these people feel the need to tell people at work, at school, and elsewhere that they are sexual deviates. And then homosexuals seem surprised when people that they inform of their sexual deviations express disapproval or disgust. It would be no different than if I went around telling everybody that I fantasize about having sexual relations with my mother, and then being surprised when people look at me strangely and tell me that I have psychological problems.

[concerned about politics]

Why do these people feel the need to tell people at work, at school, and elsewhere that they are sexual deviates

To generate hate. They do everything they can to get people to hate them.
The more hate they can generate, the closer it gets them to an elite status above all others through hate crime legislation.

[glc1173@aol.com]

If GLSEN wasn't just about promoting the Democreep ideology, GLSEN would just open voucher schools of its own - for all those gay and lesbian kids the NEA constantly tells us about.

[redangus]

This message is to all the groups who are against vouchers. There is no thing as "public money." This so called "public money" is tax dollars collected through coersion by the federal and state government from the parents of school children. People we need to take back the language if we are to win these very important arguments.

The real argument should be why can't every parent demand that they get a check equal to whatever is spent to educate their child in the public school in their area to use as they so choose. Here in Indianapolis that works out to about $8000/per for IPS. With that kind of money you could get your child into almost any private school. I am sure you would find similar dollar values in other cities.

[Khepera]

Gosh they could found their own schools and eliminate private stalls in the lavatories and could teach a class called open showers.

[concerned about politics]

You know, if Americans support the sodomites as much as the sodomites say they do, they shouldn't have to worry about finding schools for the sodomite kids.
After all, according to these folks, America celebrates the diversity. So why the concern?
According to these folks, the polls are always in their favor, right?
Parents are happy to have GLADD teaching fisting classes, aren't they? Isn't that why they're so welcomed in the public schools? Parents love them, too? Isn't that what they're preaching?
They should be happy. All the public schools will belong to them.

[softengine]

Why, whatever led you to that conclusion? <\sarcasm off>

[usadave]

To generate hate. They do everything they can to get people to hate them. The more hate they can generate, the closer it gets them to an elite status above all others through hate crime legislation.

Thanks for enlightening me of this. I really feel sad for our country that homosexuals feel the need to resort to political manipulation in order to try to achieve acceptance in American society.

[softengine]

Ya know, what's really gut-wrenchingly angering is that there are so many out there who are thinking just exactly what you said.....but not one with the nerve to admit it publicly. Don't know about you, but I am fed up to here with that.

[concerned about politics]

The GLSEN 2001 National School Climate Survey found that 95% of LGBT students in private religious schools frequently hear homophobic commentary, and 65% report feeling unsafe at school because of their sexual orientation or gender identity/expression. Consequently, 30% report skipping class because they feel unsafe due to anti-LGBT harassment and 22% report skipping entire days of school for the same reason.

Under school choice, they can find a different school. See? It's even good for sodomites, too!

[A. Pole]

Well, they can send the gay students to the crummy public schools... Or found their own schools.

And they can use the vouchers to fund them. What is the REAL problem?

[jonascord]

They could Hire Capt. Oveur from 'Airplane' as principle, and have Turkish Prison themes for prom nite, and intermural Gladiators...

[semaj]

The argument of most special interest (leftist) groups is:

We should be free from all, ridicule, insults and hurt feelings.

There oughta be a law to make people be nice to us.

[concerned about politics]

BUMP for truth.

[RAT Patrol]

They can start their own schools. I have a hard time with the concept of a "gay" student who is pre age of consent anyway. Since they are so sure there is no turning back and the kid should not be having sex anyway they should discourage labeling until they are at least 18. But whatever, as long as me and mine are not effected.

[anniegetyourgun]

They want our children - to adopt them, to indoctrinate them, to use them.

BTW, I've yet to meet a transgendered 3rd grader.

[LiteKeeper]

I am going to guess: Lesbian, Gay, Bi, or Trans-gender

[LarryLied]

This is hitting the left hard:

People for the American Way:
Supreme Court Upholds Cleveland Voucher Plan, Further Weakening Wall Between Church And State

ACLU Calls Supreme Court Ruling on Vouchers Bad for Education, Bad for Religious Liberty

AJCongress says Supreme Court decision upholding cleveland school voucher program 'signals a constitutional counter-revolution'; pledges to resist further breaches in wall

NAACP:
Supreme Court Decision On School Vouchers Harmful To Future Of Public School Education

Post on FR
ADL Says Supreme Court Decision on Vouchers "Step Backwards" for Church-State Separation

NCJW Decries Supreme Court Decision in School Voucher Case

Statement by Bob Chase, President of the National Association of Educators, on Supreme Court ruling

Statement by Sandra Feldman, President, American Federation of Teachers, on the Supreme Court's Ruling

[brat]

Or the "pretty in pinks." LOL

[goodieD]

If they want to feel safe, perhaps they should shut up about what they think their "sexual identity" is. At that age, one is too young to understand anything concrete about oneself, let alone something like this. Stay in the closet, and stay safe. Why do you think anyone wants to know about your nasty bedroom habits anyhow?

[Kerberos]

"Or the "pretty in pinks." LOL"

That might work out better than the Flaming Reds. I had originally conceived that title utilizing the word red as in communist red. However, on further reflection I realized that red could be interpreted, as referring to Native American Indians, and that would be being insensitive and demeaning to that group.

I'm sure that any school comprised of LGBT members would adamantly want to adhere to the tenements of political corrects.

[Kerberos]

corrects = correctness

[LarryLied]

At that age, one is too young to understand anything concrete about oneself, let alone something like this.

This is pure evil. Kids who should not even know about them are now wondering if they will grow up to be homosexuals.

[TxBec]

ping

[fporretto]

You've hit the bull's-eye. Gay students would not be roughed up or treated as inferiors any more often in a private school than in a government-run school; at any rate, it would still be against the law. In a school-choice regime, the gay agenda of "inclusion" will be defeated by parents' ordinary decisions to send their children to schools where gay propaganda is not accepted and gay proselytization is briskly discouraged.

But as we all know, freedom of choice is only acceptable if it leads to the results the elites have pre-approved. What? Parents are choosing to inculcate traditional values in their children -- and to send them to schools where those values will be reinforced? Sound the general alarm!

Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
Visit The Palace Of Reason: http://palaceofreason.com

[FreeTally]

These people are so insane, they have no idea when they make absolutely no sense at all. You would think by the tone of this article, the government just passed a law forcing queers to go to private religious schools.

This is one of those incidences where you let the speaker get about half way through his/her spiel, and then say, "Excuse me mam/sir, I have a quick question. What the hell are you even talking about?"

[tcostell]

Actually, since private schools will remove a student who is a danger to others, they should be significantly safer in private schools than in the government schools.

[yankeedame]

Well, they can send the gay students to the crummy public schools... Or found their own schools.

And they can use the vouchers to fund them. What is the REAL problem?

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1) It's work setting up/running your own school. Hard, thankless, never ending work.

2)You might actually fail (gasp!). What if the made a school an (pretty much) nobody came, or stayed?

Oh, no, it's much better, more fun, and safer to curse the darkness than light a candle.

[lepton]

LEave them in schools where they safety can't be garaunteed? Like the public school they'd be going to anyway? This is loopy - even if one accepts homosexuality, the response is clearly irrelevant. They're not protesting what they say they are, they're protesting kids escaping from their grasp.

[Leto]

Biggest pronlem for GLSEN is that not many parents would send their kids to a school founded by GLSEN. They want kids trapped in public school so they have a captive audience to push their agenda to. They can't compete in an open market and know it.

[brat]

"and that would be being insensitive and demeaning to that group."

LOL Yes....we musn't be insensitive now! LOL

[Zorrito]

I don't know about you guys, but I'm sick and tired of these damn fagots crappng up the place with their "sensitivities". It's time they went back in the closet.